How does a unified champion with 4 belts in 22 fights get called a duck?

Tl;DR Welcome to the ignore list. Perfect post decision for all.

When you construe yourself with dignity and nor bias comments then no one can accuse you of being childish or pandering to the narrative that you are trying to push. You cannot use one person as your “Source” of the 50m been real and then ignore that same person when he says the 50m was never on offer. So you are effectively picking which side of the coin you wanted to see to push whatever agenda you have. And seeing how you are calling another boxer names shows which side of the coin you want to believe and which side panders to your narrative. You replied to one of my post, so obviously something hurts you in my post, with all due respect I know I blame both sides for the fight not happening but I cannot respect anyone that thinks a champion who has three belts in 22 fights is a “Coward” because he wouldn’t be held to ransom when negotiating. Tl;DR Welcome to the ignore list.

Because there is winning belts, and there is fighting the best. Look at Ricky Burns, World Champion in multiple divisions, but never beat anyone great, just a few other fighters on his level. I respect Joshua for beating Wlad, it was a tough fight, I felt he was 2-3 rounds down at the time of starting the 11th Round. But the fact is Fury beat Wlad more convincingly and away from home, and when Wlad had all the belts and an 11 year unbeaten streak. When Wlad fought Joshua, he was coming off a loss, 18 months inactive, no belt and ancient. And it's clear for all to see that he avoided Wilder, didn't fancy Ortiz when he was with Hearn, and has seemingly, never fancied fighting Fury, except when he weighed about 65 stone. Also, in the UK, Sky TV which Joshua fights on here on PPV has an ongoing Dillian Whyte narrative which makes a lot of Joshua's stupider fans believe that Dillian is the second best heavy in the world.

Hearn never said accept the 15 million and we'll send a contract without discussing what they would entail. He sent a final contract which was 15 million with the STIPULATIONS .Finkel said he has READ the contract and agreed to terms. Hearn just didn't say agree to 15 million then we go from there, he included detailed proceedings with it. Finke l changed his mind on agreed to terms...he didn't agree to any offer without paper work... One doesn't agree to 50 million and says send the contract..anyway.:burnout: Hearn's offer to Wilder consisted of a term sheet. When both parties agreed in principle to that term sheet, a contract was sent to negotiate the finer points. That is how boxing negotiations work. Wilder's offer to Joshua consisted of a term sheet. Both parties never agreed in principle to that term sheet, so a contract was never sent and finer points were never negotiated. If there's no agreement in principle over the money, nobody is going to waste their time negotiating the color of the ring posts.

It's not childish, if anybody is being childish it's you. Saying narrative over and over doesn't make you smart. When you construe yourself with dignity and nor bias comments then no one can accuse you of being childish or pandering to the narrative that you are trying to push. You cannot use one person as your “Source” of the 50m been real and then ignore that same person when he says the 50m was never on offer. So you are effectively picking which side of the coin you wanted to see to push whatever agenda you have. And seeing how you are calling another boxer names shows which side of the coin you want to believe and which side panders to your narrative. You replied to one of my post, so obviously something hurts you in my post, with all due respect I know I blame both sides for the fight not happening but I cannot respect anyone that thinks a champion who has three belts in 22 fights is a “Coward” because he wouldn’t be held to ransom when negotiating.

Sorry am not reading all of that childish rant. Fact is the same Hearn that you quote is on video claiming they never showed him anything. Again you can pick his words to fit your narratives but am just going to go with what I see from both teams. So you can either look at it from both sides or respectfully fall in line like a “Punk Bitch” as you are doing now... Anyway Respect on that bandwagon. It's not childish, if anybody is being childish it's you. Saying narrative over and over doesn't make you smart or part of anything but jumping on bandwagons with the flavor of the week. Be yourself! I don't have no narrative you chumpstain. Hearn said it and he can't go back from saying it. You're either pregnant or you're not.

There’s is a video of Hearn saying it seems legit but he needs a contract to sign to get the fight made which they have not given and won’t give That's a lie. A contract was never sent because the terms were rejected. Nobody sends a contract for terms that weren't accepted. Hearn himself didn't send Wilder a contract until AFTER he accepted the 15 million. That is how boxing works.

Look Ray, I'm was being respectful here, no need to turn into a punk bítch because I won't conform to your cheerleading making-shít-up insanity trip. . Sorry am not reading all of that childish rant. Fact is the same Hearn that you quote is on video claiming they never showed him anything. Again you can pick his words to fit your narratives but am just going to go with what I see from both teams. So you can either look at it from both sides or respectfully fall in line like a “Punk Bitch” as you are doing now... Anyway Respect on that bandwagon.

There is videos of Hearn saying the opposite on YouTube, he was asked the question directly and recently. His claims were “We asked for a meeting” “They never showed us proof of funds” “We just had an email sent to himself and Joshua by Wilder himself” So you can take which ever one you want to fit your narrative. Look Ray, I'm was being respectful here, no need to turn into a punk bítch because I won't conform to your cheerleading making-shít-up insanity trip. Narrative, really? You're going to jump on this "narritive" bandwagon like it makes you smarter or more hip? Let's try this: put your Trendy Words for 2018 book down you bought at your local supermarket, drop the pom poms, take a hot shower (use soap), and get a hot cup of black coffee. Time to sober up. Hearn said he was showed proof of funds, end of fùcking story. He said it, it's in a video, HEARN SAID THE 50M WAS THERE so how you gonna be a fùcktard and say there was a phantom 50 million? Finkel sent emails/contact/etc too so basically what's happening here is you're being a cheerleader that makes up whatever story she wishes. AJ is a cherrypicker wanker. Premature stoppage (Vlad), premature stoppage (Takam), ref (even Brits are saying it) breaking up Parker non-stop. AJ won't leave the UK because he gets stopped anywhere else. Povetkin was losing on the cards, get the fùck out of here. AJ wanted 50M, he was given 50M and then he turns into a bítch áss hoe. You think Mike Tyson or Lennox Lewis would have bïtched up when a 50M offer came across the table? Even Lennox is saying your man is a bítch. Froch is saying they don't want it ether. Get it through your head, AJ is a cherry picking fraidy cat who needs the ref and judges to be in his pocket. You people are nuts. Sooo desperate to have a crown over there you people just make up whatever and act like it's real. That's scary shít to me. Look in the mirror, the face looking back at you is the face of a crazy man.

There is video of Hearn saying the 50M was legit. I can't find the video because of IFL TV making 30 minute video's without proper labeling. Link proof for now: "Hearn and Joshua wanted to proof of funds - which they apparently received from Wilder co-manager Shelly Finkel." https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-wilder-hearn-reveals-postitive-talks-70-chance-deal--127770 There is videos of Hearn saying the opposite on YouTube, he was asked the question directly and recently. His claims were “We asked for a meeting” “They never showed us proof of funds” “We just had an email sent to himself and Joshua by Wilder himself” So you can take which ever one you want to fit your narrative.

When a team can’t even proceed a contract, it shows they are liars and all talk That's not how boxing works. You agree to a term sheet first and then go to contract. Joshua rejected the terms, so a contract was never sent. Wilder was never sent a contract from Hearn until agreeing to terms. Works both ways.

I am not a fan of either Joshua or Wilder. What annoys me about Joshua is how he never seems to speak for himself. At this point in his career he deserves to be challenged on his pick of opponent. But, instead he remains Eddie Hearn's dancing meat puppet.

There is video of Hearn saying the 50M was legit. No There’s is a video of Hearn saying it seems legit but he needs a contract to sign to get the fight made which they have not given and won’t give More fake news from wilder fans Pathetic

50M- which BTW is still on the table- says different. Where is the contract ? There was nothing just social media rubbish All you have is social media posts When a team can’t even proceed a contract, it shows they are liars and all talk Team wilder ducked Joshua and got caught in a lying fake news mess and they got out of it by destroying the fight being made

(2) There is a video of Hearn saying that wasn’t true, all he had was an email Fromm wilder himself that says that have the 50m. He then request a meeting and that was refused (The third meeting that was refused). There is video of Hearn saying the 50M was legit. I can't find the video because of IFL TV making 30 minute video's without proper labeling. Link proof for now: "Hearn and Joshua wanted to proof of funds - which they apparently received from Wilder co-manager Shelly Finkel." https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-wilder-hearn-reveals-postitive-talks-70-chance-deal--127770

He ducked chance to be considered lineal champ in beating wilder. Fury gave him chance but didn't want it. So fury is still lineal. Wilder might have easy chance to beat fury as he will ever get but it's Josh fault.

1. I hate Wilder. He's fought 90% (accurate math) bums. 2. There is video of Hearn admitting the 50 million was legit. 3. How do you know what Wilder's usual pay is? Registered purses only spell a portion of the sum. AJ is a duck, I said it. How does that figure into your equation? (1) I like Wilder but his resume up to Ortiz has been terrible. (2) There is a video of Hearn saying that wasn’t true, all he had was an email Fromm wilder himself that says that have the 50m. He then request a meeting and that was refused (The third meeting that was refused). (3) I couldn’t careless what portion of his wages wasn’t registered am going with what we know has been filed for him. Even if they “Hide” his money they can’t hide more than 20% of it. And no one hides money and then tell everyone I earn more than what’s filed but am “Hiding this from the taxman. Wilder is a duck according your equation.

Because most of them are fanatics. From the fake phantom 50m dollars offer with no meeting to rejecting two contracts that represent 5 times his usual payday, to taking 39 fights to actually fight a threat. Compare to a guy who did all of that in half that time and fights, to a guy who actually took the risk and earns ten times what Wilder earn. If you sit there and call Joshua a duck with all the evidence in front of you then you are a fanatical fanboy. 1. I hate Wilder. He's fought 90% (accurate math) bums. 2. There is video of Hearn admitting the 50 million was legit. 3. How do you know what Wilder's usual pay is? Registered purses only spell a portion of the sum. AJ is a duck, I said it. How does that figure into your equation?

Don't be deluded. 50mil still cannot make wilder the A side. Hez a far B side, not even close. Your argument is dead in arrival. A-side is the side than dictates the terms and controls the promotion. That would certainly be Wilder if the 50M was accepted.

50M- which BTW is still on the table- says different. Don't be deluded. 50mil still cannot make wilder the A side. Hez a far B side, not even close. Your argument is dead in arrival.