Is Adonis Stevenson top 10 p4p? He stopped Tony Bellew in 6.

He beat Breidis, Gassiev and Bellew just this year alone. Last 2 years add Huck, Mchunu and Glowacki. That's why he's P4P. His resume is better than Stevenson's in 15 fights. Yup. Even Hunter is a decent win imo, and will look better in time, and that was just a stay busy fight. Usyk is doing everything boxing fans say they want boxers to do.

Those cw you just named all are b to c level. When did cw become some stacked division? It's the weakest in boxing. Those were good fights but doesn't make usyk some God. Sounds like ggg hype all over again. And Stevenson whooped bellow at 36 years old. He's 41. Crusierweight is a good division. Those are good fighters.

He beat Breidis, Gassiev and Bellew just this year alone. Last 2 years add Huck, Mchunu and Glowacki. That's why he's P4P. His resume is better than Stevenson's in 15 fights. Those cw you just named all are b to c level. When did cw become some stacked division? It's the weakest in boxing. Those were good fights but doesn't make usyk some God. Sounds like ggg hype all over again. And Stevenson whooped bellow at 36 years old. He's 41.

Right, but his good wins came 5 years ago :lol1: Usyk unified all the titles on the road and beat several other contenders in the last 2 years. He beat Breidis, Gassiev and Bellew just this year alone. Last 2 years add Huck, Mchunu and Glowacki. That's why he's P4P. His resume is better than Stevenson's in 15 fights.

It took Oleksander Usyk 8 rounds. Or should Bellew simply not be seen as a p4p measuring stick? Bellew alone should not... but wins against Gassiev, Briedis, Glowacki, Huck, Hunter etc all as the away fighter certainly prove Usyk is a P4P talent

Is Adonis Stevenson undisputed cruiserweight champion of the world? And he KO'd a drained Bellew...this Bellew was obviously much better coming off his best career wins. Who did Bellew beat before he faced Stevenson ? It's funny that people buy into Bellews excuse of being drained. He was boxing well and showed no signs of fatigue although he wasn't winning the rounds. All of his fights after Stevenson he looked slightly out of shape. Stevenson was top 10 a few years back, probably around 15 p4p right now.

Another Freedom-esque thread from shoulder roll.

Except at that time Stevenson was seen as a must-watch P4P talent, Bellew hadn’t achieved no where as near as much as he had over the past few years though. Funny how people forget.

It took Oleksander Usyk 8 rounds. Or should Bellew simply not be seen as a p4p measuring stick? Most of the folk who have Usyk as a P4Per had him there before beating Bellew (including the widely respected panel of the TBRB, incidentally, who had him #4 in their October rankings). I get that he hasn't been on TV much in the US though so perhaps it's not so odd that the regard in which he's held is a surprise to you. This fight didn't really elevate him so much as solidify him I think.... although I'll say once again that P4P is utter garbage conceptually anyway. Besides everyone has a different way of gauging P4P some are more eye test guys, some resume dependent and so on - and even then how the **** do you actually objectively compare fighters from different divisions? Give me a precise formula for how many 2015 Matthysses a 2016 Lebedev is worth in todays currency and we can start to have a discussion.:lol1:

Adonis was a fine Kronk Gym product... he was 35-36 yo when he dispatched Dawson, Cloud, and Bellew... since then, he chose to make easy money in Quebec (with Michel)... :)

...Chris don't have bbc doe ... true dat https://i.imgur.com/aCE6HOJ.jpg I had to laugh when I copied the link and saw the bolded part below BBCode (message boards & forums)

When Bellew was 4 years old, he had an older cousin who was 12 years old. That older cousin beat up young Bellew and made him cry. It didn't even take a minute. I'm guessing that the OP has that cousin as P4P #1 right now? Perhaps, just perhaps - if OP stopped sucking cock for a minute he might realise just how stupid this thread is. But that is never gonna happen, is it?

It took Oleksander Usyk 8 rounds. Or should Bellew simply not be seen as a p4p measuring stick? I'm a fan of Adonis, he's not top 10 p4p though. Adonis got a much fresher version of Bellew at a smaller weight than Usyk got him at. Adonis tempo is much less than the average fighter. He's always loading up where Usyk is pressure coming forward. Imho, Bellew is a B to a B+ level fighter.

We used to call Christopher Reeves "Superman" and look what happened to him ...Chris don't have bbc doe ...

ROFL yt mad that Adonis 'Big Cawk' Stenson is p4p#1 and lil' d1ck Usuck is not on he's level! Olololol haha stay mad! Buncha CACs! Adonis is proof that them genetics pay the bills! They don't call him Superman for nuthin! We used to call Christopher Reeves "Superman" and look what happened to him

shoulderoll stop with this dumb ass race baiting lad. you look like a fool. Yeah I wish they'd all stop making troll threads based on the statements of other trolls. It's a circle jerk of the gayest kind.

this bellew was waaay better. He was cutting soo much weight when he fought adonis. do you want to see adonis fight ustk???? If you are a fan of Adonis you don;t want to see what usyk would do to him

It took Oleksander Usyk 8 rounds. Or should Bellew simply not be seen as a p4p measuring stick? Is Darnell Boone top 10 P4P? He KO'd Stevenson in 2 rounds, and it took Stevenson 8 rounds to KO Boone.

Stevenson wasted his run did not get in the ring with the other champions in his division

This guy :lol1: