Andre Ward would be a legit threat to Usyk...

I'd favour Usyk in this fight. I like Ward, but he'd be significantly outsized by Usyk.

Ward was picking Bellew to beat Usyk................... Ward would beat Bellew. Ward was tempted to fight Bellew.

Ward was picking Bellew to beat Usyk................... Ward would beat Bellew.

Ward was picking Bellew to beat Usyk...................

it would be a great night if the fight happened, window closing fast

It would be a good fight, Im a ward fan so im picking him to win but Usyk is big and good so it wouldn't be easy.

lol at these so called boxing fans acting like all ward does is low blow to win fights, smh

Well, Usyk would need to wear a steel cup for one thing. He would also have to win by stoppage, because no one will be allowed to win a decision against Ward on U.S. soil.

That's the way to go at Bscene! If you're losing an argument - throw out a strawman. If the strawman doesn't work .. accuse the person you're arguing with of getting emotional and taking things too seriously. You've only been a member here for 5 minutes but you're catching on fast! Strawman argument huh, its too bad you didn't understand my posts to rebute your praise for Bute a fighter who arguably lost against all the top fighters he faced. I am not a fan of Ward's style but I recognize his skill and you can say he's crafty, dirty, tricky ect but aside from the first Kovalev fight which is debatable no one figured out how to beat him. To say that Ward was somehow scared of Bute or Stieglitz!...Now that is ridiculous. Remember, you brought up Bute in a thread about Ward vs Usyk...talk about strawman.

Exactly, its about Ward and Usyk I called you out on some bull about Ward and Bute you posted based on your assumptions and what other people thought. I dont get angry about this nonsense but you do, and I have no idea why it has nothing to do with you. Take some time off this website you take it way too serious. That's the way to go at Bscene! If you're losing an argument - throw out a strawman. If the strawman doesn't work .. accuse the person you're arguing with of getting emotional and taking things too seriously. You've only been a member here for 5 minutes but you're catching on fast!

As skilled and crafty Andre is, the man is listed as 6'0" which probably means he is actually 5'11" with 71" reach. It's a bigger size difference than AJ vs Usyk. Usyk is legit 6'3" with 78" reach, he only gives up 4" reach to AJ and 3 inches in height. Andre can't hurt Usyk, I think it has been established that Usyk can take shots by his sparring partners and what we have seen in fights. So believe me, he can take Andre's shots. If they were the same size Andre could win, but Usyk would simply fight him at a distance and not let Andre do his thing... And if Andre tried to fight on the inside Usyk would just do Wlad on him and lean on his back all day. It's just not a good fight. Proves nothing for Usyk, and does absolutely nothing for Andre. Andre's talk of heavyweight is absolutely ridiculous as well.

I think Ward is a bit more skilled. But Usyk is the bigger guy. Id favor Usyk as both are elite, and the biggest factor would probably be size. not to mention that one guy is retired and the other guy fought 3x this year for the world championship.

This thread is about Usyk vs Ward, you moron! I posted a simple factual comment - that Ward was never an undisputed champion and Usyk is. You are the one who got angry and started babbling about all kinds of other irrelevant shit because you don't like the truth. Exactly, its about Ward and Usyk I called you out on some bull about Ward and Bute you posted based on your assumptions and what other people thought. I dont get angry about this nonsense but you do, and I have no idea why it has nothing to do with you. Take some time off this website you take it way too serious.

Exactly, they were wrong which is what I was trying to point out to kafkod. Whether they were right or wrong is irrelevant, just a strawman thrown out by you to try and deflect the discussion away from its original point.

Relax dumb ass it does matter...now where the f-ck did Usyk come from? Thats the problem with people like you, you get so emotional over this nonsense that has nothing to do with you and start babbliing because you get so mad you can't think straight. I brought up Andrade and Froch to make a point about Bute and Abraham because of Stieglitz whom you brought up. You went from Bute then went on to Stieglitz and Stevenson now its Usyk?! Calm down this is not important you fool... This thread is about Usyk vs Ward, you moron! I posted a simple factual comment - that Ward was never an undisputed champion and Usyk is. You are the one who got angry and started babbling about all kinds of other irrelevant shit because you don't like the truth.

Kovalbum almost KO'd & beat Ward in 1'st fight, imagine what a monster like Usyk would do!

People don't like to admit they were wrong Find me a guy who will admit he thought Kovalev was unbeatable now, you won't but back then they were everywhere, similarly find me a guy who admits he had Arthur Abraham as a favourite for the super 6, because there were a ton of them too Exactly, they were wrong which is what I was trying to point out to kafkod.

What the hell does it matter who it was that thought Bute was better than Ward? Maybe Ward and his manager did, because they definitely wanted no part of Bute, even in Oakland. Maybe if Ward had fought Bute and Stieglitz he would have been an undisputed champion and you wouldn't need to be talking stupid shit about Abraham, Andrade, Froch, and refs giving 15 second counts in fights that Ward wasn't even involved in? Usyk is an undisputed, unified champ and Ward isn't, wasn't, and never will be. Just suck it up and swallow it. Relax dumb ass it does matter...now where the f-ck did Usyk come from? Thats the problem with people like you, you get so emotional over this nonsense that has nothing to do with you and start babbliing because you get so mad you can't think straight. I brought up Andrade and Froch to make a point about Bute and Abraham because of Stieglitz whom you brought up. You went from Bute then went on to Stieglitz and Stevenson now its Usyk?! Calm down this is not important you fool...

It was a good thing a clean fighter like Ward didnt fight a steroid cheat like Bute. A clean fighter like Ward! Now that's funny!

Ill repeat the question...who are the "many people" that thought Bute was better than Ward? As for all your assumptions, maybe if Bute hadn't got knocked out by Froch a guy Ward had already beat they would have fought. Try to fight Stieglitz you say? Well, maybe if Stieglitz hadn't got whooped by Abraham whom Ward had also already beat Ward would have fought him. And facts are facts as you say, and its a fact that, that ref saved Bute and stole a ko from Andrade by giving Bute a 15 + count and then walking him to his corner so he wouldn't fall again. All kinds of rules got broken to help Bute keep his 0. Bute better than Ward? GTFOH! What the hell does it matter who it was that thought Bute was better than Ward? Maybe Ward and his manager did, because they definitely wanted no part of Bute, even in Oakland. Maybe if Ward had fought Bute and Stieglitz he would have been an undisputed champion and you wouldn't need to be talking stupid shit about Abraham, Andrade, Froch, and refs giving 15 second counts in fights that Ward wasn't even involved in? Usyk is an undisputed, unified champ and Ward isn't, wasn't, and never will be. Just suck it up and swallow it.