i haven't really seen anybody criticising Errol for this possible fight with Garcia.
Canelo got slated for it v Khan and GGG got slated for it v Brook from people on here, probably some Spence fans.
i wonder if he will come under the same criticism..
If a small dog is barking at me I don't get any respect by kicking it.
Haha, I hear you but hey, it is what it is.
For the record, I'd much rather have Loma vs Mikey first because if Loma beats Mikey (I'd root for Mikey), I want Loma to get full credit and no "oh he fought a Mikey who took a beating at 147lbs".
I can't be mad at Spence because Garcia barked that tree and has been for a minute now.
If a small dog is barking at me I don't get any respect by kicking it.
mikey wants it, you can't knock on spence for taking the fight. not the first time in history a fighter wants to challenge himself to greatness and moves up. the worse mistake in my opinion is when challenging and moving down. that extra weight drain will kill you, just ask dawson and de la hoya in recent history.
Yeah after GGG team said he’d beat anyone at 154-168. Then they fight someone from 147lbs. Great move.
You stupid ****. How do you bash someone knowing what really happened? They were in negotiation with Team Eubank, Hearn already had the stadium booked for that date. Eubank lost his pen, Hearn needed a replacement and offered the fight to Kell Brook (who had called out Golovkin).
Yeah after GGG team said he’d beat anyone at 154-168. Then they fight someone from 147lbs. Great move.
Ok kl that’s your point of view I’ll let you ignore the fact Brook was esentially a short notice replacement. just keep the same energy with this Garcia Spence fight.
When Brook beat Porter what was Porters best win?
Devon Alexander. That was when Alexander was in his prime and coming off wins over Matthysse and Maidana.
If you go by actual reported fight night weights Spence is NOT the biggest welterweight in the division by a long shot. He weighed 156 on fight night for his last fight. That's a gain of 9 pounds which is not that much these days. Some welterweights weigh well over 160 on fight night. Crawford weighed 157 on fight night for Horn. Spence is a natural normal sized welterweight. He knocks everybody out because he is better, not bigger.
Show me a source on that. I've seen some that say he weighs 162-165. Either way he's not a small welterweight at all.
Brooks win over Porter is better than any of Mikey's wins. Mikey's best win is Adrien Broner. Spence deserves to be criticized. He's the biggest ww in the division fighting a dude who looked small at 140.
When Brook beat Porter what was Porters best win?
Brooks win over Porter is better than any of Mikey's wins. Mikey's best win is Adrien Broner. Spence deserves to be criticized. He's the biggest ww in the division fighting a dude who looked small at 140.If you go by actual reported fight night weights Spence is NOT the biggest welterweight in the division by a long shot. He weighed 156 on fight night for his last fight. That's a gain of 9 pounds which is not that much these days. Some welterweights weigh well over 160 on fight night. Crawford weighed 157 on fight night for Horn. Spence is a natural normal sized welterweight. He knocks everybody out because he is better, not bigger.
I would pick Mikey to beat Porter or Danny Garcia. The only welterweights who could beat Mikey in my opinion are Spence, Thurman and Crawford. Therefore I think a Spence win over Mikey is just as good as a Spence win over Porter. Mikey beat the hell out of Broner yet if Spence was fighting Broner nobody would be crying about it and it would be call it a decent win for Spence.
No chance in hell Mikey beats Porter. Mikey was getting walked down and lost 3-4 rounds to Sergey Lipinets, he's way too small and weak to hold off Shawn Porter. And people would definitely complain if Spence fought Broner. That would be a huge cherrypick.
I know I'm going to be critical of it. Honestly Spence's opposition since Brook hasn't been up to the standard he should be setting himself and now he's fighting someone who honestly has no business above Lightweight. Yes, Garcia beat Broner at LWW, but that was largely because Broner fought entirely the wrong fight. When Broner began to actually press and let his hands go at the end of the fight he was backing Mikey up, even though it was far too late. Garcia finished that fight a wide winner on the scorecards but with his face visibly more damaged than Broner's despite Broner only landing a fraction as many punches. Spence is not only faster, bigger and a harder puncher than Broner, he's also a much more aggressive and relentless fighter with a much higher ring IQ. This will be a bloodbath that'll do neither guy any credit.
Honestly I feel like Garcia ought to be criticised too. In the shape of Khan and Brook we've seen fighters jump up two weight divisions to commit career suicide against a killer in the division they're jumping up to and both times it's cost them dearly. Khan ended up a knockout of the year victim and got benched for years while Brook picked up permanent damage from Golovkin, and both fighters subsequently suffered massive damage to their careers and reputation despite valiant efforts in both fights. Khan was seriously in contention for mega fights against Mayweather and Pacquiao before Canelo, and Brook was seen by many as the top welterweight, and now nobody takes either seriously anymore. Some people will say that Garcia trying this is bravery, but to me it just looks like hubristic, arrogant, macho BS. He has legit opposition in his own division, he doesn't need to do this to be legit. Both guys, as it stands, have pound for pound credentials but this will damage that for both of them in my opinion if it pans out the only way I think it can.I would pick Mikey to beat Porter or Danny Garcia. The only welterweights who could beat Mikey in my opinion are Spence, Thurman and Crawford. Therefore I think a Spence win over Mikey is just as good as a Spence win over Porter. Mikey beat the hell out of Broner yet if Spence was fighting Broner nobody would be crying about it and it would be call it a decent win for Spence.
Khan-Literally was fighting nobodies and had not done anything worth a damn in years
Brook had 1 damn decent win in his entire career
Mikey is MULTIPLE DIVISION CHAMPION AND A TOP P4P FIGHTER...IS IT A FIGHT I WOULD HAVE DEMANDED??? NO...BUT IT IS NOWHERE NEAR THE SAME
Brooks win over Porter is better than any of Mikey's wins. Mikey's best win is Adrien Broner. Spence deserves to be criticized. He's the biggest ww in the division fighting a dude who looked small at 140.
Khan-Literally was fighting nobodies and had not done anything worth a damn in years
Brook had 1 damn decent win in his entire career
Mikey is MULTIPLE DIVISION CHAMPION AND A TOP P4P FIGHTER...IS IT A FIGHT I WOULD HAVE DEMANDED??? NO...BUT IT IS NOWHERE NEAR THE SAME
i haven't really seen anybody criticising Errol for this possible fight with Garcia.
Canelo got slated for it v Khan and GGG got slated for it v Brook from people on here, probably some Spence fans.
i wonder if he will come under the same criticism..Yes he will get will and he already has been. I don't agree with it. Mikey called him out not the other way around. Why should he turn down the biggest money fight available to him against the biggest star? Mickey weighed 149 on fight night against Easter and Spence weighed 156 on fight night for his last fight. That's only 7 pounds difference on fight night. Mikey plans to add weight for Spence so there will be even less weight difference when they fight. Some fight fans cry too much today about a boxer going up a few pounds when in the past it was done all the time and nobody worried about it. Often the smaller man won the fight. Lightweight champs fought welterweight champs and welterweight champs fought middleweight champs and it was thought of as moving up one weight class not two weight classes. Mikey already fought at 140 pounds twice. I didn't see anything wrong with GGG accepting Brook's challenge either. Brook was a huge welterweight who weighed just as much as GGG on fight night. Khan fought Canelo at a catchweight of 155 so he was only moving up 8 pounds not two weight classes. If the slightly smaller man wants to fight why should the bigger man say no to a good fighter and a good payday?
From what I've read so far in this thread, some seem to think he won't be criticised because Mikey called him out, but so what if he did? It doesn't justify accepting this crap. Roberto needs to get Mikey's ear and do some screaming. What the **** are they thinking?
i dont think he should get criticized. mikey has been caling Spence name out for far to long and Spence can use a big on his resume for sure (4 time champ of fighting bums but none the less)...mikey also knows that he has to go after the big dog in the division because if he losses he will get the praise Kell and Khan got for going up and fighting the bigger guy. plus he can always go back down and fight at weight classes that he has had success.
there is a reason he is not making the move the tradition way... as in fighting a few fight at welter before he fights spence. because if he doesn't look like a killer or even loses to anybody else at the weight his money fight is off the table... Spence by Total destruction... Robert will be ready wid the towel from in the locker room
I know I'm going to be critical of it. Honestly Spence's opposition since Brook hasn't been up to the standard he should be setting himself and now he's fighting someone who honestly has no business above Lightweight. Yes, Garcia beat Broner at LWW, but that was largely because Broner fought entirely the wrong fight. When Broner began to actually press and let his hands go at the end of the fight he was backing Mikey up, even though it was far too late. Garcia finished that fight a wide winner on the scorecards but with his face visibly more damaged than Broner's despite Broner only landing a fraction as many punches. Spence is not only faster, bigger and a harder puncher than Broner, he's also a much more aggressive and relentless fighter with a much higher ring IQ. This will be a bloodbath that'll do neither guy any credit.
Honestly I feel like Garcia ought to be criticised too. In the shape of Khan and Brook we've seen fighters jump up two weight divisions to commit career suicide against a killer in the division they're jumping up to and both times it's cost them dearly. Khan ended up a knockout of the year victim and got benched for years while Brook picked up permanent damage from Golovkin, and both fighters subsequently suffered massive damage to their careers and reputation despite valiant efforts in both fights. Khan was seriously in contention for mega fights against Mayweather and Pacquiao before Canelo, and Brook was seen by many as the top welterweight, and now nobody takes either seriously anymore. Some people will say that Garcia trying this is bravery, but to me it just looks like hubristic, arrogant, macho BS. He has legit opposition in his own division, he doesn't need to do this to be legit. Both guys, as it stands, have pound for pound credentials but this will damage that for both of them in my opinion if it pans out the only way I think it can.
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