Network wars

I agree talent and development will matter a whole bunch however in the case of dazn they are trying to Steal fighters from pbc once they get a name. This strategy is flawed becuase like the case with mikey they attempted to get him before he peaked if mikey fights only on ppv for the next 2 years he will 100% make more than 8 million dollars This makes me believe along with the fact they were being outbid by espn that they aren't willing to spend crazy money unless its canelo and even then its 11 fights You make a great point on pbc developing new stars does he have any new guys at 160..... other than that theirs going to be a lot of pressure on Anthony Joshua in the years approaching efe,joyce,yoka,wilder, etc Jermall Charlo, Daniel Jacobs, Derevyanchenko, CentenoJr, Aleem, Khytrov from what I know for sure; as far as the guys just starting, I can't name any 160lbers that are sure with Haymon off the top of my head.

If what you're saying that Kathy Duva has said is actually the truth (lol, not gonna hold my breath), the talent wars are in full effect and whomever has the talent will win. The 2020 Olympic cycle will gear up soon, and the talent from the 2012/2016/2020 cycles will basically dictate the next decade. Top Rank has Crawford and Lomachenko, a few from the 2016 cycle with promise, a few other okay fighters (Valdez, Zurdo, Ramirez, etc), and not much else; ESPN will go along with most of it, but they're not going to let Arum be Arum, if what you've said is true. Haymon basically has every other fighter that matters at 147, most of the top talent at 154, 3 of the 4 champions at 175, a surprisingly deep hold of the talent at heavyweight, and basically the Lion's share of the top talent in every weight class north of 122lbs outside of cruiserweight and maybe 130. And that's before you count the prospects set to start breaking through over the next couple years (Ritchardson Hitchens, Mario Barrios, Joey Spencer, Tony Yoka, Fabian Maidana, etc). Across everything, it's likely going to be 50 dates, 30-35 of which are likely to be on CBS/Showtime/FOX/SHOPPV/FOX PPV/FS1 supershows, and it's likely that Haymon may still not have enough dates. I agree talent and development will matter a whole bunch however in the case of dazn they are trying to Steal fighters from pbc once they get a name. This strategy is flawed becuase like the case with mikey they attempted to get him before he peaked if mikey fights only on ppv for the next 2 years he will 100% make more than 8 million dollars This makes me believe along with the fact they were being outbid by espn that they aren't willing to spend crazy money unless its canelo and even then its 11 fights You make a great point on pbc developing new stars does he have any new guys at 160..... other than that theirs going to be a lot of pressure on Anthony Joshua in the years approaching efe,joyce,yoka,wilder, etc

The irony, I see in all of this, is that Bob Arum was just recently seen on social media calling Al Haymon Mr. Cancer.

Duva sure did do a great job with the Russian Shuffle Kovalev man huh? I’d definitely trust her.:lol1: Hell nah! That was funny as shit! :rofl:

If what you're saying that Kathy Duva has said is actually the truth (lol, not gonna hold my breath), the talent wars are in full effect and whomever has the talent will win. The 2020 Olympic cycle will gear up soon, and the talent from the 2012/2016/2020 cycles will basically dictate the next decade. Top Rank has Crawford and Lomachenko, a few from the 2016 cycle with promise, a few other okay fighters (Valdez, Zurdo, Ramirez, etc), and not much else; ESPN will go along with most of it, but they're not going to let Arum be Arum, if what you've said is true. Haymon basically has every other fighter that matters at 147, most of the top talent at 154, 3 of the 4 champions at 175, a surprisingly deep hold of the talent at heavyweight, and basically the Lion's share of the top talent in every weight class north of 122lbs outside of cruiserweight and maybe 130. And that's before you count the prospects set to start breaking through over the next couple years (Ritchardson Hitchens, Mario Barrios, Joey Spencer, Tony Yoka, Fabian Maidana, etc). Across everything, it's likely going to be 50 dates, 30-35 of which are likely to be on CBS/Showtime/FOX/SHOPPV/FOX PPV/FS1 supershows, and it's likely that Haymon may still not have enough dates.

I really hope boxing isn't dominated on DAZN. It'll turn a niche sport into more obscurity. I'll subscribe to it because I'm a hardcore fan, but I don't see it growing boxing's fanbase.

The way PBC are headed looks flawed to me. Its exactly the way we have it in the UK, everything relevant goes to PPV, tuneups on Sky/BT Sport. The constant complaints about PPVs are getting ridiculous, and ours are not overpriced, and we dont have an alternative. If DAZN launched here it would be game over.

Give it a few Years, Disney will buy DAZN for BILLIONS and turn it into ESPN+ :nonono: I would hate to be in Competition with anything owned by Disney, too Powerful they will ultimately just buy you out

Internet is coming on strong but the networks are still the way to get your fighter seen.

ESPN will work together with Fox and Showtime??? I'd love to see that but i'm not sure it'll happen. If that was true we'd be getting Spence vs Crawford instead of that bull**** Spence vs Garcia fight.

Duva sure did do a great job with the Russian Shuffle Kovalev man huh? I’d definitely trust her. It's not unreasonable what she said plus we already saw how espn was cross programming and outbidding dazn

According to kathy duva espn and fox will work together to stop dazn from strong arming its way into the market. Right now espn+ is over 1 million. With canelo joining dazn it's possible they could jump over 1 millions sub in a small amount of time. How do u all add see these wars ending and effecting the boxing landscape??????? I believe top rank could come under pressure soon if they cant get ggg or do PPV fights I think if dazn promoters cant get more than HBOS roster they're done when canelo stops selling PBC has to deliver numbers similar to ufc I believe and Showtime has to step up or they will lose fighters Duva sure did do a great job with the Russian Shuffle Kovalev man huh? I’d definitely trust her.