Even the us fans are laughing at the poor ticket sales for wilder vs fury

The clarify, I was speaking mostly from the perspective of 2015. The Johann fight was something like september 2015. I hate to be a stickler about this, but it's 2016-2017 the guys you listed start their push. Wilder is still very much tied up by Povetkin. The reason I keep reiterating Povetkin isn't to detract from Povetkin it's to explain all these fights from 2015-2017 from Johann to Bermane were short notice. Which causes scheduling conflicts that are not Wilder's fault. He had to wait for Pov to ask for a delay before he could react to it. :lol1: Funnily enough I actually consider myself a Wlad fan. He was great in a time when only perfecting the most basic combo in boxing, footwork on tracks, and a slow pace would absolutely smash anyone else. If Wlad wasn't champion some short fat joker with bad form and even worse posture would have been. I am grateful for Wlad. However, if he had anything else to him or any statement to make about his juxtaposition in the ATG ranks he had ample opportunity and perfect opposition to do it with. It's not Wlad's lack of range of skills, or his resume, or his lack of performance, it's the fact that he's all three that really drag him down. Wlad is only impressive in Wlad's time. I don't believe he'd be champion in any other era. Wilder's not had Wlad's position yet. Joshua has and Fury has but Wilder has yet to be the man everyone is trying to fight. If Wilder gets in Wlad's position and starts carrying men rounds they did not earn I will come down on Wilder too. It isn't that I think Wilder's done better it's that I forgive the lack of given his situation. Deontay fought nearly 10 time the year he debuted. By contrast the fast tracked joshua fought 3. You know plenty of old'ens like myself brag about how often the old school fought. What they never bring up is in boxing when you can get meaningful fights you get often fights. I can think of no better example than Harry Kid Matthews. Not alot of people give Kid any time because he was just a contender in the Marciano era that Marciano KO'd rather easily during his push. It could have been an elim but I don't recall for sure. Either way, Kid had a hard time securing fights because he'd come up from 130. So he goes on a nearly 60 fight win streak. Because if you can't get a name you have to beat everyone around them first, sometimes twice. Once you've limited that name's opposition by beating them and taking their position the name has no choice but to admit you are the best challenge and not fighting you at this point is a blatant duck, which used to mean more. Mike Tyson is notorious for having a weak early resume. He's also a man who the year he debuted fought something like fifteen fights. Marciano fought 10 in his first year. Foreman 13 or 14. Deontay is not avoiding competition, his team did not avoid competition, they are simply forced by juxtaposition to the same path everyone who is avoided and/or unknown has had to follow. I do not think it's coincidence these men are all punchers. Alright well I'll explain why he fought Gavern. Because at the time Joshua was securing fights in the WBC to work his way up into mando position. He fought Gavern for the same reason Wilder did, Gavern's a lesser belt gatekeeper. Something of a necessity. The BBBoC is also WBC and you'll notice all the way up until Martin Joshua was fighting for BBBoC belts and WBC lesser titles like international champ. The WBC wanted them to. Joshua adheres to the same principles when he is in the same position. The only real thing you need to ask yourself is do you believe Wilder was promoted as well as Joshua or near it. The answer should be no, and if it is then it should be easy to accept Joshua is going to have the pick of the litter while Wilder deals with leftovers happy to wait on their payday and work the ABC rankings. Prior to having his position and choices Joshua fought men who do nothing for his resume as well. He did it because they helped his career. Wilder's been in that position his whole career. In the shadow of Wlad, Fury, and Joshua there can only be ****ty fights. Wilder's couldn't even block Martin-Glaz and get himself into that fight. IBF was not having it and the WBC was not having it. I mean c'mon, Glaz and Martin are walks and the IBF is a title. Do you really believe Wilder was scared to fight Martin or Glazkov then but landed Ortiz and Fury as soon as he got cleared of Pov? Of course he isn't. Joshua got called out by Martin because in Martin's own words both Fury and Wilder were busy with high level defenses and he didn't want his to look weak compared to Wilder-Povetkin or Fury-Klitschko II. :lol1: Martin does have the mind of a great champion just not the skills, poor lad. Alrighty, y'all have a good'en. So it could be better and is still worse than Wlad or AJ but it's not entirely his fault, largely due to poor promotion. Some guys on here would dispute that it is better that's what I originally thought you was saying lol.

I only doubt it, I definitely can't speak for all UK boxing fans .. it's just I remember fans demanding Danny Williams vs Audley Harrison and that was before social media was massive like it is now .. I'm just not seeing the same kind of hype around Chisora vs Whyte II even in the live boxing chat I'm on for most UK cards .. but I had forgotten about Chisora's big win over Takam though I haven't seen it mentioned since the night they fought I think which is a bit weird. I've no complaints about it personally, just felt Whyte used (or teased) us fans in the hope it would force Chisora to stop pricing himself out of the rematch (by calling out Ortiz who then accepted the fight on the suggested date) That's fine then but personally I don't have interest in that Ortiz match up for now. Maybe later in the future the interest will come up again and we will see the fight.

Bubba you're seeing unfair treatment where you like. I treated Marciano and Wilder the same way. It was in no way a detraction against Joshua....I really don't understand your conflict and don't know how to address it. I'm shooting from memory kiddo, if I'm off by a couple numbers it isn't a big deal and doesn't detract from the point I raised. I suspect what has happened is you took it as a slight against Joshua. Let me be clear; fighting worthwhile names is in no way a bad thing. I'm not attack Joshua I'm explaining why Wilder fought more often. Wilder was on the classic open with a big year and fight six a year after that until you're in position. Joshua started out similarly but kept getting better fights than is usual for a man in his position. Those fights required full training camps which limited how many fights Josh could get in a year. If you get a bug in your ass and pull up boxrec I promise you this by a twelve year period every twelve year period, hell I'll even give you leeway weeks, Joshua will not have as many fights on his record in a twelve year span as Wilder. That's because Joshua was fighting better opposition earlier. Joshua doesn't get to be number one in every regard no matter how much you want to believe he is. In regards to who fought more often it is clearly Wilder. Stop talking shyt and just admit you were wrong. I don't like people making up stuff so grow up kid and just admit talking crap.

:lol1: eh? What is a twelve month span? :lol1: I don't like people spread misinformation. You either not very smart and don't know calendar or you are a liar. No point lying, Joshua fought more often in his first year than Wilder, don't understand why you try to lie about it, not like it matters who is fighting more the first pro year.

The clarify, I was speaking mostly from the perspective of 2015. The Johann fight was something like september 2015. I hate to be a stickler about this, but it's 2016-2017 the guys you listed start their push. Wilder is still very much tied up by Povetkin. The reason I keep reiterating Povetkin isn't to detract from Povetkin it's to explain all these fights from 2015-2017 from Johann to Bermane were short notice. Which causes scheduling conflicts that are not Wilder's fault. He had to wait for Pov to ask for a delay before he could react to it. :lol1: Funnily enough I actually consider myself a Wlad fan. He was great in a time when only perfecting the most basic combo in boxing, footwork on tracks, and a slow pace would absolutely smash anyone else. If Wlad wasn't champion some short fat joker with bad form and even worse posture would have been. I am grateful for Wlad. However, if he had anything else to him or any statement to make about his juxtaposition in the ATG ranks he had ample opportunity and perfect opposition to do it with. It's not Wlad's lack of range of skills, or his resume, or his lack of performance, it's the fact that he's all three that really drag him down. Wlad is only impressive in Wlad's time. I don't believe he'd be champion in any other era. Wilder's not had Wlad's position yet. Joshua has and Fury has but Wilder has yet to be the man everyone is trying to fight. If Wilder gets in Wlad's position and starts carrying men rounds they did not earn I will come down on Wilder too. It isn't that I think Wilder's done better it's that I forgive the lack of given his situation. Deontay fought nearly 10 time the year he debuted. By contrast the fast tracked joshua fought 3. You know plenty of old'ens like myself brag about how often the old school fought. What they never bring up is in boxing when you can get meaningful fights you get often fights. I can think of no better example than Harry Kid Matthews. Not alot of people give Kid any time because he was just a contender in the Marciano era that Marciano KO'd rather easily during his push. It could have been an elim but I don't recall for sure. Either way, Kid had a hard time securing fights because he'd come up from 130. So he goes on a nearly 60 fight win streak. Because if you can't get a name you have to beat everyone around them first, sometimes twice. Once you've limited that name's opposition by beating them and taking their position the name has no choice but to admit you are the best challenge and not fighting you at this point is a blatant duck, which used to mean more. Mike Tyson is notorious for having a weak early resume. He's also a man who the year he debuted fought something like fifteen fights. Marciano fought 10 in his first year. Foreman 13 or 14. Deontay is not avoiding competition, his team did not avoid competition, they are simply forced by juxtaposition to the same path everyone who is avoided and/or unknown has had to follow. I do not think it's coincidence these men are all punchers. Alright well I'll explain why he fought Gavern. Because at the time Joshua was securing fights in the WBC to work his way up into mando position. He fought Gavern for the same reason Wilder did, Gavern's a lesser belt gatekeeper. Something of a necessity. The BBBoC is also WBC and you'll notice all the way up until Martin Joshua was fighting for BBBoC belts and WBC lesser titles like international champ. The WBC wanted them to. Joshua adheres to the same principles when he is in the same position. The only real thing you need to ask yourself is do you believe Wilder was promoted as well as Joshua or near it. The answer should be no, and if it is then it should be easy to accept Joshua is going to have the pick of the litter while Wilder deals with leftovers happy to wait on their payday and work the ABC rankings. Prior to having his position and choices Joshua fought men who do nothing for his resume as well. He did it because they helped his career. Wilder's been in that position his whole career. In the shadow of Wlad, Fury, and Joshua there can only be ****ty fights. Wilder's couldn't even block Martin-Glaz and get himself into that fight. IBF was not having it and the WBC was not having it. I mean c'mon, Glaz and Martin are walks and the IBF is a title. Do you really believe Wilder was scared to fight Martin or Glazkov then but landed Ortiz and Fury as soon as he got cleared of Pov? Of course he isn't. Joshua got called out by Martin because in Martin's own words both Fury and Wilder were busy with high level defenses and he didn't want his to look weak compared to Wilder-Povetkin or Fury-Klitschko II. :lol1: Martin does have the mind of a great champion just not the skills, poor lad. Alrighty, y'all have a good'en. Wilder fought 1 time the year he debuted, get your facts straight.

being on any fighter's d1ck is feminine. Why would that be disputed? well in this day and age feminism in men is often called something else

Being on Wilder's dick is about as feminine as it gets, or do you dispute that? being on any fighter's d1ck is feminine. Why would that be disputed?

They seem to attract plenty of two-bit bull**** artists. Jack Teller is a respectable young man because Jack has the cajones to put himself in position to be wrong. Little *****es like yourself who are either too stupid or too lazy to address anything I said but are feminine and emotional enough to let me know about how what I said caused a reaction are not and do not. How is those names are not eligible defenses a lame excuse son? What is lame is a gaggle of princesses going around spreading their assumptions while acting like they have my authority on the subject. I know your types are slow, I am calling you a counterfeit. Easy bro. I didn't cause your pain and I don't intend to add to it. What ever you think is the truth, roll with it. Thanks you.

Quoted for truth Being on Wilder's dick is about as feminine as it gets, or do you dispute that?

You and some few might not have interest. There is nothing I can do about that but am sure many fans in the UK is glamoring for this fight especially after Del Boy KO victory against C. Taken. Many thought Del Boy won and would prepare to see whyte win more convincingly to be entitled to AJ's payday. You might have a contrary opinion, it's also part of the sport. I only doubt it, I definitely can't speak for all UK boxing fans .. it's just I remember fans demanding Danny Williams vs Audley Harrison and that was before social media was massive like it is now .. I'm just not seeing the same kind of hype around Chisora vs Whyte II even in the live boxing chat I'm on for most UK cards .. but I had forgotten about Chisora's big win over Takam though I haven't seen it mentioned since the night they fought I think which is a bit weird. I've no complaints about it personally, just felt Whyte used (or teased) us fans in the hope it would force Chisora to stop pricing himself out of the rematch (by calling out Ortiz who then accepted the fight on the suggested date)

I doubt if most of our audience have even given that matchup a minute's thought, and that line Eddie Hearn used is very similar to what Dana White usually says when announcing matchups that no one asked for. "The fans asked for this fight" and it was usually just 2 plebs on facebook and he ignores the thousands of fans complaining about it :D You and some few might not have interest. There is nothing I can do about that but am sure many fans in the UK is glamoring for this fight especially after Del Boy KO victory against C. Taken. Many thought Del Boy won and would prepare to see whyte win more convincingly to be entitled to AJ's payday. You might have a contrary opinion, it's also part of the sport.

Yeah well what’s strange is all of these people who are not making any money off of these fights and fighters care so much about how many tickets are sold and what the money split should be instead of wanting to just watch good fights. It’s very Feminine IMO. Quoted for truth

I was more talking about 2015 onwards when the guys I mentioned were on the scene and Wilder was making defenses, I will however begrudgingly admit some of the above did make sense. The fact does remain that Wlad has fought more better comp for whatever reason you like, so belittling his accomplishments and bigging up what Wilder has seems off. Gavern was AJ's 10th professional fight, the real question is why was he Wilder's 31st? Maybe if Wilder fought guys like this in his 10th intead of 31st he could have moved up rankings quicker and been in amongst the top ten for 20 or so extra fights and had more oppurtinities to fight them to build a better resume fighting them rather than excuses as to why he isn't fighting good opponents, that is a maybe though don't take that too seriously. I'm still confused about the point he was hoping to make bringing up Gavern Joshua also fought Molina after Wilder had beaten him, not a big deal IMO

Boxing is not a charity sport bro. Why go fight a guy who cannot attract 5000 fans to the arena? Whose money will he be paid with? Whyte just fought the former WBO champ which is a bigger fight with more money and now the UK audience want chisora rematch because of the controversy surrounding the first fight. Ortiz should get busy and wait for another turn of title shot if he has another opportunity which I doubt. I doubt if most of our audience have even given that matchup a minute's thought, and that line Eddie Hearn used is very similar to what Dana White usually says when announcing matchups that no one asked for. "The fans asked for this fight" and it was usually just 2 plebs on facebook and he ignores the thousands of fans complaining about it :D

I agree, the bodies are pretty terrible. At the very least they should do a better job explaining themselves. They are tied to certain procedures and boxer do take advantage of that. So often you get folks going "Why is X ranked when he hasn't fought a ranked opponent" more often then not it's due to a lesser belt. For example the EBU is a member of the WBC. They recognize WBC rankings and champions as their world ranking and champions and in return the WBC has to rank the EBU champion within the top fifteen I believe but it could be ten. Different lesser belts gets different automatic ranking making the whole system kind of ****ed. That said the think is you can't expect the WBC or any other body to have more respect for Ring or anyone else's ranking than their own ranking. Obviously the official ABC ranks dictate career paths. Ring can only make you more popular. Well I feel like I've thoroughly explained why Dillian, Dom, and Jarrell didn't get a title shot, they were not eligible title challengers. They were not well known. There was less reason to fight them then the men he fought at the time. Haye had taken a break from boxing between 2013-2016. In 2013 he was tied up with Fury. In 2016 Wilder had to appease the WBC mandatory because it had been delayed for so long. Bermane wasn't a choice for Deontay. Prior to 2013 Deontay did try to secure a fight with Haye but at that point Haye had some steam in the division and Wilder was an unknown. David wanted Deontay to get more fights. That's why Wilder fought Harrison, that was an attempt to get some British profile to get the Haye fight. Pulev was coming off the Wlad loss and not interested in back to back title shots. Pulev has pulled out of a lot of great opportunities since Wlad smacked the dog piss out of him. Like he did Haye Wilder tried to fight Kubrat earlier, in 2012. I don't think I know if Kubrat's team ever responded or not. Parker was uninterested in deviating from his path. He had just earned a guaranteed shot at the WBO down the road few months prior and did not want to risk it. Jennings was fighting Wlad and like Fury did not want to risk his shot at Wlad on Wilder then Jennings was fighting Ortiz for the WBA interim. Then Jennings, like Haye, took a break. The rest of your post is just digs into who Wilder did fight while you assume there must have been much better to choose from but I've given you an explanation for every name you bring up. I think maybe you're still unclear about the ring vs abc ranking. You have to realize once a champion has a title that body has a say in who they fight. A champion can't make a vol without approval, which means quite a few of the men you're banging on about were simple not eligible. It won't be long and most the names you talk about now will be long gone and kids will be bringing up guys like Joe Joyce and asking why Wilder didn't fight him in 2018 or reimagining the HW division based on their assumptions. Something Joshua said then confirmed he believes that I reckon holds very true is if these guys are really willing to make statements why have they not fought each other? Then when Fury and Wilder was signed Josh said it's good because he shouldn't be expected to fight everyone and this way he's only expect to fight the winner. It's the truth, if the division was a bunch of ready to fight hungry lions who are willing to drop a later guarantee for a risky fight that offers a present reward they would have prior to all of them being top ranked fighters. Joshua himself feels like everyone wants to fight him and no one wants to prove anything prior to fighting him by fighting other high profile HWs. They all want to win a lesser belt, force their mando position, and get their payday. If it is true for Joshua why would you assume it wasn't true during Wlad or the vacuum left by Fury? Well if everyone wants to work the ranking system to force a payday where does that leave Wilder? Without a suitable dance partner is where. I know you didn't ask about them but it does further illustrate my point. Fury was stripped because the IBF had guaranteed Glazkov a shot by a date and Fury had a rematch clause with Wlad which would force the Glazkov fight to be postponed. When they say guarantee they mean it and when they say elidlable they mean it. Between guarantees against higher paying competition and who was eligible it should be obvious to you why Wilder has the names he does. Those were the men who were working on guaranteed shots at the WBC. Wilder just fast tracked them while his mando delayed and others rejected due to not wanting to risk their guarantee at a bigger payday. Ok, now you do one. Why did Joshua fight Gavern in 2015? I was more talking about 2015 onwards when the guys I mentioned were on the scene and Wilder was making defenses, I will however begrudgingly admit some of the above did make sense. The fact does remain that Wlad has fought more better comp for whatever reason you like, so belittling his accomplishments and bigging up what Wilder has seems off. Gavern was AJ's 10th professional fight, the real question is why was he Wilder's 31st? Maybe if Wilder fought guys like this in his 10th intead of 31st he could have moved up rankings quicker and been in amongst the top ten for 20 or so extra fights and had more oppurtinities to fight them to build a better resume fighting them rather than excuses as to why he isn't fighting good opponents, that is a maybe though don't take that too seriously.

:lol1: What the damn hell are you talking about? Wlad sat and watched them move up in rank. Fury was not mandatory overnight. It took him years and the whole time Wlad was aware it was going to happen. Fury was fighting elims in like 2012. ABC rankings? You mean the only rankings that have any actual impact on their careers? Crimney kid, this is so ****in' apples and oranges I'm having a hard time taking you seriously and not assuming you're just trying to wind me up. Let me be very very clear: not even for a vol is a champion allowed to defend his title against unranked opponents. If they're not ranked it isn't a title defense, silly boy. Ring is not official. Povetkin avoided Wlad, Wlad knew this. Fury was gunning for Wlad, Wlad knew this. Wlad made no attempts to get Povetkin before Wlad aged or to get Fury before Fury matured. In Povetkin's case Wlad was right, he was so much better than Pov age would not be enough. In Tyson's case he was dead wrong. Allowing Fury to mature was a mistake. There is no way to twist that and the fact that Hearn was able to promote Whyte well doesn't have **** all to do with that. Years of working the official ranks is a spot different than getting in on magazine ranks. It doesn't matter how much Ring is exalted. Ring themselves has never hidden the fact that they are a promotional tool and nothing more. From there you get into all sorts of promotional **** that I just can not for the life of me figure out what the **** it has to do with the guys Wilder fought while Povetkin delayed. Yes, AJ does have a great team. No one's saying Eddie's a bad promoter. At this time though Joshua was ranked underneath Szpilka. That isn't meant to be a detraction against Josh it's meant to explain where these guys were in regards to the HW title scene. This is a time from before Joshua's big push let alone Whyte, Dom, or Jarrell. If Joshua was a low rank HW what were they? But Wilder should have fought them then prior to their push and prior to their ranking because Wlad sat on ass while Fury took years in the ranking to get to him? C'mon man. Wlad had time to take on Fury as an official voluntary defense of his titles. When Wilder had the time to take out up and comers in the ranks as official voluntary defenses while Povetkin delayed he did. The men who are now decent names for Wilder were not even applicable defenses back then. Since they have become applicable defenses Wilder has been tied up fighting better names. :lol1: seriously kiddo, look stuff up, or don't I don't really mind teaching you, but quit coming at me all hard and mean like. You don't know your ass, but that's ok, if you change your tune and just ask instead of posting your assumptions at me I will teach you without feeling like and therefor responding as if you've got to be ****ing with me. Am sorry to say, your excuses are lame to be honest.

Robbie Parrott when do HW usually hit their prime ? Safe bet to say around 28-33 Tyson is what 30 years old , hasn’t lost , wasn’t injured , has never taken a sever beating , still has all his mental faculties and should still possess the confidence since he was the one who beat Klit when it mattered Did he take a couple years off get fat as f.uck get coked out hit the bottle and get depressed, yeah but after shaking off those demons and getting back in shape he ls at a age where should still be able To get back into the same athletic shape he was when he was peak. It’s not like Fury depended on his freakish athletic ability to get where he was at l. He used his boxing brain and skill to get there So yeah I think it’s fair to say Fury is still prime , Now does he get back mentally and physically on Dec 1, I guess we’ll find out But calling this a cherry pick is a joke and only AJ groupies such as yourself and the rest of the band of AJ/Hearn inbred f.aggots are the only ones who think that , Real fans of the sport realize that this is a good fight walken its about someone told you to stop talking....utter ****e is spewing out your mouth and running down your chin go clean yourself up for heavens sake

:lol1: What the damn hell are you talking about? Wlad sat and watched them move up in rank. Fury was not mandatory overnight. It took him years and the whole time Wlad was aware it was going to happen. Fury was fighting elims in like 2012. ABC rankings? You mean the only rankings that have any actual impact on their careers? Crimney kid, this is so ****in' apples and oranges I'm having a hard time taking you seriously and not assuming you're just trying to wind me up. Let me be very very clear: not even for a vol is a champion allowed to defend his title against unranked opponents. If they're not ranked it isn't a title defense, silly boy. Ring is not official. Povetkin avoided Wlad, Wlad knew this. Fury was gunning for Wlad, Wlad knew this. Wlad made no attempts to get Povetkin before Wlad aged or to get Fury before Fury matured. In Povetkin's case Wlad was right, he was so much better than Pov age would not be enough. In Tyson's case he was dead wrong. Allowing Fury to mature was a mistake. There is no way to twist that and the fact that Hearn was able to promote Whyte well doesn't have **** all to do with that. Years of working the official ranks is a spot different than getting in on magazine ranks. It doesn't matter how much Ring is exalted. Ring themselves has never hidden the fact that they are a promotional tool and nothing more. From there you get into all sorts of promotional **** that I just can not for the life of me figure out what the **** it has to do with the guys Wilder fought while Povetkin delayed. Yes, AJ does have a great team. No one's saying Eddie's a bad promoter. At this time though Joshua was ranked underneath Szpilka. That isn't meant to be a detraction against Josh it's meant to explain where these guys were in regards to the HW title scene. This is a time from before Joshua's big push let alone Whyte, Dom, or Jarrell. If Joshua was a low rank HW what were they? But Wilder should have fought them then prior to their push and prior to their ranking because Wlad sat on ass while Fury took years in the ranking to get to him? C'mon man. Wlad had time to take on Fury as an official voluntary defense of his titles. When Wilder had the time to take out up and comers in the ranks as official voluntary defenses while Povetkin delayed he did. The men who are now decent names for Wilder were not even applicable defenses back then. Since they have become applicable defenses Wilder has been tied up fighting better names. :lol1: seriously kiddo, look stuff up, or don't I don't really mind teaching you, but quit coming at me all hard and mean like. You don't know your ass, but that's ok, if you change your tune and just ask instead of posting your assumptions at me I will teach you without feeling like and therefor responding as if you've got to be ****ing with me. The ABC rankings are the worst as the WBC have Fury as 3rd after a three year lay off and two fights against people ranked way way below 50th, and Ortiz 2nd for fighting Cojanu and their, to make Wilders record and upcoming fight more admirable. So Wilder didn't want to fight anyone and no one wanted to fight him? Haye, Parker, Pulev, Whyte, Chagaev Brazeale, Miller have all been top ten since he has had the belt in 2015 or a year later. He had a fight with Spzilka who had been beaten by Jennings, why not fight Jennings instead, Duhaupas beaten by Pianeta and some other nobody, Arreola 4 losses and a draw 2 of which to Stirverne who Wilder had already beat. Molina who has a loss to Arreola and some other guy. Surely he could have took better comp why did he take so long to fight Ortiz if he wanted to prove something? Even Takam and Chisora would seem better to me as scalps of a couple solid gatekeepers instead of journeymen.

the tickets are ridiculously highly priced surely the price will eventually go down touts have been selling them at less than 50% purchase price for weeks :D I think quite a lot of people are going to end up with heavily discounted (or even free) tickets for the "biggest fight of the year" lol

Hearn said 50 million was from BT sports that they put up the money . It turns out that's not how they operate, I made the same mistake myself recently. Frank Warren was asked to take a look at the deal because BT Sports were interested in showing the fight after Shelly Finkel stated that he wanted them to bid on it rather than the UK TV rights being given to SKY for a low price. The actual funds came from elsewhere, but I'm yet to find a source for these funds that half the boxing world has apparently seen lol. I still call bull**** on the offer because of the information they withheld, but nonetheless it wasn't BT Sports offering the $80million 2 fight deal to AJ, they just wanted a seat at the table to secure those rights.