Mikey vs Spence - February 2019

i didnt mention 3 years ... i said sky have averaged 3 ppv's a year using your silly, false statement. wasnt PBC /showtime always .. the best fights on freeeee tv? Wasnt that because of all the Haymon money being enough to pay the purses of these guys whilst helping you, the US audience not have to pay exorbitant prices? Where did that all go ? oh yeah... over paid mismatches. You all keep on dragging up the good fights showtime have put up the last 2 years... why werent they PPV and these are ? now DAZN come along and all of a sudden, after wilder fury we have two fights that have no business even being a thing. Give me crawford spence.. and mikey loma and id gladly pay 100 for each. Giving me a faded pac and a non ppv broner, couple with a mikey jumping up into suicide territory against a spence who last year would apparently never have done a golovkin and youve got yourself some bull****. lets say these three ppv cost collectively $150 dollars. thats 6 sky ppvs...which if we take away may/mac takes us back to may last year. Brook v spence.,. 275k in the UK. Tell me PPV card in the UK was complained about for being PPV after the fact or never had a right to be PPV? the buy rates of them prove you wrong completely. The only one that did less than half a million was Whyte / Parker which is now acknowledged to have been fantastic value for money That Spence / brook fight sold because of kell here.. and it did **** numbers. it was never a PPV fight in the USA. Now after peterson and ocampo hes suddenly PPV worthy ? lol You mean to tell me, Mikey "never sold a PPV before and averaged 680k against easter " is the dance partner needed to get that fight on the PPV platform? absolute nonsense. You are getting royally shafted for in-house mismatches, and only your tribalism is whats keeping you from acknowledging it. Your only point of contention is made up numbers of how we pay for 20 or so PPV's? now youve been proved false you're trying to equate our cheap PPV market with decent view figures to the shams now being provided to you by the illustrious duo of espinoza and Haymon ? You're very much in the minority on this one thinking that either of these fights are wanted or PPV worthy. simply look at the reaction of most on this board whom are in agreement that they neither want nor care for this fight when other .. BETTER fights can be made for both fighters. Christ, you thought I was going to read this? You clearly misread how little I think of you. I’m sure you’re twerp mind will somehow interpret that as a big win. Hopefully it comes with a nice virtual trophy too.

he wont.. one thing ill say about DAZED is he loves a good argument. I just want to know in what world he thinks that his comparison of this to Sky box office PPV's given our buyrates holds any ground. its his mo when he cant be smug no more he gets ratty and puts u on iggy seen it many times

watch him put u on ignore now lmao he wont.. one thing ill say about DAZED is he loves a good argument. I just want to know in what world he thinks that his comparison of this to Sky box office PPV's given our buyrates holds any ground.

but wasnt PBC /showtime always .. the best fights on freeeee tv? Wasnt that because of all the Haymon money being enough to pay the purses of these guys whilst helping you, the US audience not have to pay exorbitant prices? Where did that all go ? oh yeah... over paid mismatches. You all keep on dragging up the good fights showtime have put up the last 2 years... why werent they PPV and these are ? now DAZN come along and all of a sudden, after wilder fury we have two fights that have no business even being a thing. Give me crawford spence.. and mikey loma and id gladly pay 100 for each. Giving me a faded pac and a non ppv broner, couple with a mikey jumping up into suicide territory against a spence who last year would apparently never have done a golovkin and youve got yourself some bull****. lets say these three ppv cost collectively $150 dollars. thats 6 sky ppvs...which if we take away may/mac takes us back to may last year. Brook v spence.,. 275k in the UK. Tell me PPV card in the UK was complained about for being PPV after the fact or never had a right to be PPV? the buy rates of them prove you wrong completely. The only one that did less than half a million was Whyte / Parker which is now acknowledged to have been fantastic value for money That Spence / brook fight sold because of kell here.. and it did **** numbers. it was never a PPV fight in the USA. Now after peterson and ocampo hes suddenly PPV worthy ? lol You mean to tell me, Mikey "never sold a PPV before and averaged 680k against easter " is the dance partner needed to get that fight on the PPV platform? absolute nonsense. You are getting royally shafted for in-house mismatches, and only your tribalism is whats keeping you from acknowledging it. Your only point of contention is made up numbers of how we pay for 20 or so PPV's? now youve been proved false you're trying to equate our cheap PPV market with decent view figures to the shams now being provided to you by the illustrious duo of espinoza and Haymon ? You're very much in the minority on this one thinking that either of these fights are wanted or PPV worthy. simply look at the reaction of most on this board whom are in agreement that they neither want nor care for this fight when other .. BETTER fights can be made for both fighters. watch him put u on ignore now lmao

You’re comparing three years to three months and telling me to get my math right. This is why I consider you an idiot. Using the three years you just touted, Showtime would have put on four PPVs. i didnt mention 3 years ... i said sky have averaged 3 ppv's a year using your silly, false statement. wasnt PBC /showtime always .. the best fights on freeeee tv? Wasnt that because of all the Haymon money being enough to pay the purses of these guys whilst helping you, the US audience not have to pay exorbitant prices? Where did that all go ? oh yeah... over paid mismatches. You all keep on dragging up the good fights showtime have put up the last 2 years... why werent they PPV and these are ? now DAZN come along and all of a sudden, after wilder fury we have two fights that have no business even being a thing. Give me crawford spence.. and mikey loma and id gladly pay 100 for each. Giving me a faded pac and a non ppv broner, couple with a mikey jumping up into suicide territory against a spence who last year would apparently never have done a golovkin and youve got yourself some bull****. lets say these three ppv cost collectively $150 dollars. thats 6 sky ppvs...which if we take away may/mac takes us back to may last year. Brook v spence.,. 275k in the UK. Tell me PPV card in the UK was complained about for being PPV after the fact or never had a right to be PPV? the buy rates of them prove you wrong completely. The only one that did less than half a million was Whyte / Parker which is now acknowledged to have been fantastic value for money That Spence / brook fight sold because of kell here.. and it did **** numbers. it was never a PPV fight in the USA. Now after peterson and ocampo hes suddenly PPV worthy ? lol You mean to tell me, Mikey "never sold a PPV before and averaged 680k against easter " is the dance partner needed to get that fight on the PPV platform? absolute nonsense. You are getting royally shafted for in-house mismatches, and only your tribalism is whats keeping you from acknowledging it. Your only point of contention is made up numbers of how we pay for 20 or so PPV's? now youve been proved false you're trying to equate our cheap PPV market with decent view figures to the shams now being provided to you by the illustrious duo of espinoza and Haymon ? You're very much in the minority on this one thinking that either of these fights are wanted or PPV worthy. simply look at the reaction of most on this board whom are in agreement that they neither want nor care for this fight when other .. BETTER fights can be made for both fighters.

Sky box office have put on 8 ppv's since march 2017. BT and frank warren have put on none... only one of those fights didnt do over 400k... Brook v Spence. only one other fight didnt do over 700k - parker / whyte which was actually a fantastic card. I have to go all the way back to Audley vs Haye 8 years ago to get to 25 ppv's on sky box office. Thats 3 a year average. showtime are now doing 3 in 3 months for 3 x times the cost. get your maths right You’re comparing three years to three months and telling me to get my math right. This is why I consider you an idiot. Using the three years you just touted, Showtime would have put on four PPVs.

We are expected to pay $75 4-5 times. You pay $25 20-25 times. Yeah, when you boycott it over there then you can say something. Sky box office have put on 8 ppv's since march 2017. BT and frank warren have put on none... only one of those fights didnt do over 400k... Brook v Spence. only one other fight didnt do over 700k - parker / whyte which was actually a fantastic card. I have to go all the way back to Audley vs Haye 8 years ago to get to 25 ppv's on sky box office. Thats 3 a year average. showtime are now doing 3 in 3 months for 3 x times the cost. get your maths right

No.. they aren't worthy of PPV at all. Nobody asked for pac - Broner. The economics of their purses dictate it's PPV to recoup money for the network ..no other economic defines that as being PPV. Mikey - Spence.. nobody wants. Nobody has a problem with a PPV between Loma and Mikey after pedraza. Mikey could have fought commey and we get an undisputed featuring two P4P's . Spence Crawford.. again..unification featuring two P4P's..PPV. fine with it. The **** you mean what fights have DAZN or ESPN put on that are PPV worthy? They don't even follow that ****ing structure so the answers always none.. especially when one is a month old. You're saying that of Canelo fought Jacobs in may to unify that wouldn't be PPV on showtime nah? Gtfo you fanboy. Jesus Yammy you’re such a f.ucking scrub Yeah I’m a fanboy , I’m On record as saying I’m a fan of probably 50-75 fighters all different weight classes and all different nationalities but yeah I’m a fanboy l. You’re the guy who posts about AJ /Hearn 75% of the time ( Not a fanboy though ) I agree somewhat with the PAC /Broner statement but both have built up their names enough that for the fight to happen it has to be a PPV and I’ll probably buy it. It’s a better matchup then PAC / Matthysse /Horn or PAC PPVs such as Algieri /Rios / Vargas / Bradley 3. If people don’t view it as PPV they won’t buy it . But I’m interested enough to watch that’ll pay for it If Spence /Garcia is a fight no one wants then it’ll do Crawford /Postol #s. I don’t care I bought that and I’ll buy this . I’ll pay to watch the best fight the best even though as I’ve said all along Postol was never that good just the 2nd best in a absolutely sh.itndivision at the time Agree Crawford /Spence , Garcia / Loma are great fights but Arum won’t make them so what’s the point of crying about it . if Garcia / Spence who are both undefeated prime P4P fighters and if they want to fight Im down. I guess that the fanboy in me wanting to see P4P prime fighters fight and seeing if Mikey can pull of a miracle Spence /Garcia isn’t PPv worthy but in the UK you guys have to pay to watch Whyte /Parker a fight that probably wouldn’t even headline a Showtime Card. Yes DaZn and ESpn + haven’t had a card yet that’s PPV quality , obviously they’re not a PPV service but still none of the fights so far have been worthy of a PPV in fact I’d almost say with the exception of Bellew /Usyk coming up and the 2nd round of the WBSS no fights on DAZN / Espn are even worth the 10 or 5 dollars per month , so I guess their strategy is just to air a sh.it load of middle of the road fights that even hardcore fans hardly give a sh.it about that’ll draw in the subscribers in America. They have a tonne of fights on their platforms but right now quantity over quality. If Canelo fights Jacobs in May then yeah it’s a PPV quality event and worthy of the 10 bucks but right now Canelos fighting Feilding and that fight is sh.it and not worthy ofnPPv Bellew /Usyk is a dope fight and things will get good in the 2nd round of the WBSS but that’s the only good must watch fights DAZn and ESPN will broadcast with the schedule they’ve announced or have broadcast so far And all those 3 Showtime PPVs sh.it on any fight DAZN /Espn have aired so far

Stop with the boycott talk , If you want to pay to watch the best fight do it , if not then don’t its not that hard All the PBC PPVs are worthy of being PPV though What fights have DAZn or ESpn put on that are worthy of PPV it’s definitely not a Canelo /Feilding , Vargas /Dulhorme, Crawford /Benevidez No.. they aren't worthy of PPV at all. Nobody asked for pac - Broner. The economics of their purses dictate it's PPV to recoup money for the network ..no other economic defines that as being PPV. Mikey - Spence.. nobody wants. Nobody has a problem with a PPV between Loma and Mikey after pedraza. Mikey could have fought commey and we get an undisputed featuring two P4P's . Spence Crawford.. again..unification featuring two P4P's..PPV. fine with it. The **** you mean what fights have DAZN or ESPN put on that are PPV worthy? They don't even follow that ****ing structure so the answers always none.. especially when one is a month old. You're saying that of Canelo fought Jacobs in may to unify that wouldn't be PPV on showtime nah? Gtfo you fanboy.

Uk Ppv are $25 so far more reasonable. As a general rule of thumb the matchroom Ppv are worth that money , itv you just ignore and frank warren somewhere in between - I’ve not yet ever purchased one from him. America though have to pay $75 so equivalent to three in the uk ridiculous money! We are expected to pay $75 4-5 times. You pay $25 20-25 times. Yeah, when you boycott it over there then you can say something.

He said boycott like they haven’t had over 20 PPVs in the UK this year. Uk Ppv are $25 so far more reasonable. As a general rule of thumb the matchroom Ppv are worth that money , itv you just ignore and frank warren somewhere in between - I’ve not yet ever purchased one from him. America though have to pay $75 so equivalent to three in the uk ridiculous money!

Imo it's Garcia taking the cowards way out of fighting Loma. Garcia knows Loma wants him after Pedraza and he must be worried about losing to want to fight Spence instead were he already will have excuses after he looses. Mikey is a coward. Fight Loma after Commie he's in your own weight class and it's for a unification. Don't use Spence as the reason why you won't fight Loma.

He said boycott like they haven’t had over 20 PPVs in the UK this year.

Honestly Americans need to boycott any Ppv. There is an opportunity with the likes of espn and DAZN to get away from it, if people pay ridiculous fees they will keep on doing it. Form a collaboration and in the longer term you will all benefit! Stop with the boycott talk , If you want to pay to watch the best fight do it , if not then don’t its not that hard All the PBC PPVs are worthy of being PPV though What fights have DAZn or ESpn put on that are worthy of PPV it’s definitely not a Canelo /Feilding , Vargas /Dulhorme, Crawford /Benevidez

I don't think it's clear he plans to retire after the Spence fight. He is ambitious enough to want to fight Spence so it's clear he loves boxing and competing. Why would he retired at his young age right after fighting Spence? Win, lose or draw lots of big fights for good money would be available for him. Spence might deliver a career ending beating, he may be either too hurt or too embarrassed to continue. Also Mikey has been semi retired in limbo already. I don't see him having a problem leaving the sport.

Honestly Americans need to boycott any Ppv. There is an opportunity with the likes of espn and DAZN to get away from it, if people pay ridiculous fees they will keep on doing it. Form a collaboration and in the longer term you will all benefit!Boycotts only work if the majority join the boycott. I have never once seen a boycott work in boxing. It always sounds good but it never works. If everybody on this board boycotted a fight it would just be a tiny drop in a huge bucket and the ones putting the fight on would not even notice.

I don't think it's clear he plans to retire after the Spence fight. He is ambitious enough to want to fight Spence so it's clear he loves boxing and competing. Why would he retired at his young age right after fighting Spence? Win, lose or draw lots of big fights for good money would be available for him.

Honestly Americans need to boycott any Ppv. There is an opportunity with the likes of espn and DAZN to get away from it, if people pay ridiculous fees they will keep on doing it. Form a collaboration and in the longer term you will all benefit! ESPN is getting away from it? According to who?? Did Arum not say he is putting Crawford on PPV in 2019? Did he not say the Spence fight only happens on PPV? Where do you think the Mikey vs Lomachenko fight going to take place on?

Not really what the thread is about but OK

Honestly Americans need to boycott any Ppv. There is an opportunity with the likes of espn and DAZN to get away from it, if people pay ridiculous fees they will keep on doing it. Form a collaboration and in the longer term you will all benefit!