Joshua-Wilder let Joshua keep all the UK revenue

Do you think that there would have been sufficient US PPV demand to fulfill AJ's 50 million dollar guarantee and his percentage of half the excess revenue if that deal had been agreed and the fight happened in september? That would mean 500k buys at 100 USD a pop just for the guarantee. Not figuring in wilder and any excess revenue for either fighter. The guarantee for AJ was 50. The guarantee for Wilder was 12.5. Vegas was willing to put up 30 million to secure the fight. So right off the bat that covers almost half of the guarantees. I don't think the PPV would have been priced at 100. Probably 85. (Advertised at 74.95, but $10 HD fee to get it to 85 for the vast majority of buyers). A fight of that size would have had the leverage to get a better split from the PPV industry than a normal PPV. Likely retaining 63-65% (only Mayweather has the leverage to retain more than that). But let's just say 63. That's a 53.55 retainment per buy. So you need 600,000 buys to break even from US PPV & site fee alone. But then you still have UK PPV, worldwide TV rights, sponsorships, delayed broadcast rights, etc. And that's why Wilder was confident he could make more than 12.5 even if he gave in on AJ's 50. If you want my professional opinion, when all was said and done, Wilder probably would have wound up with around 25. So a 66/33 split in AJ's favor. Very fair for all involved.

Think about how stupid you sound when his next fight is on PPV and your position is that there's no demand for him to fight on PPV. It must really suck to be so stupid, so broke and so sexually frustrated. Do you think that there would have been sufficient US PPV demand to fulfill AJ's 50 million dollar guarantee and his percentage of half the excess revenue if that deal had been agreed and the fight happened in september? That would mean 500k buys at 100 USD a pop just for the guarantee. Not figuring in wilder and any excess revenue for either fighter.

So drawing power isn't the decider who s the A-side now, it's just who's listed first? You're a clown. It's pretty clear you are either very biased or haven't got a ****ing clue, which is it? Whilst his analogy Is absolute wank. Martin Vs AJ isn't a great example to use.. Martin got paid way more in purse than AJ in that fight , was champion, and every concession like name..dressing room etc was made to accommodate king Charles. Whilst absolutely right that AJ was the draw and the reason people bought the PPV .he received no A side benefits in that fight other than being a fan favourite going into his first PPV.

Think about how stupid you sound when his next fight is on PPV and your position is that there's no demand for him to fight on PPV. It must really suck to be so stupid, so broke and so sexually frustrated. Lolx.... His next fight on ppv or his first fight on ppv cos of another fighter. The truth is hard for you to swallow and I don't give a damn. 40 fights, one green belt, 7 title defences, no mandatory defense in 3yrs and no ppv. That's the US biggest boxer in HW division and you come here to squirt. You and your employer should be hiding your faces.

Why is there no demand of him on ppv? Think about how stupid you sound when his next fight is on PPV and your position is that there's no demand for him to fight on PPV. It must really suck to be so stupid, so broke and so sexually frustrated.

Then why does he have over a million followers on instagram? Why does he star on a major reality show? Why does he do Showtime's best ratings? Why did he do the 2nd largest crowd in Barclays history? Why is he now the A-side of a major SHO PPV? You're not making any sense. He's the biggest American star in boxing right now. Why can't those watching him free pay to watch him on ppv? Why is there no demand of him on ppv?

So drawing power isn't the decider who s the A-side now, it's just who's listed first? You're a clown. It's pretty clear you are either very biased or haven't got a ****ing clue, which is it? It's not my fault you don't know what words mean. The A-side is the fighter who gets first billing.

We'll see when the numbers come in for this fight won't we We'll see exactly how wrong I am with my uneducated guesses about how many buys this fight does . What it's attendance and gate revenues are and what splits and financials are given and accepted for the AJ / Wilder fight when it happens. Until then... You can carry on being derogatory and demeaning to any and all who you view to question your almighty wisdom and knowledge. Plenty of posts of mine included my projections for the above topics. Feel free to cite them should I be wrong and I shall be happy to admit I was . Until then, I'm remaining firm in my position that Wilders deluded..isn't worth anywhere near what you seem to value his overall worth to be and that in 90% of our interactions on here you persist , and likely revel in some degree, in being a condescending , holier than thou wank stain. You're never going to get anything less than a stonewall of tool-ism from this poster. Claims a lot - from running some kind of radio show, to managing fighters, to having three different people use his posting account at any one time, but out and out refuses to back any of it up. Sadly, he/she can't work out that the fantasy he lives on here, is really some form of multiple personality disorder. Don't bite - just put him/her on ignore.

When presented with proof you're wrong you refuse to acknowledge it. So Martin was the A-side against Joshua n your opinion. opinion has nothing to do with it. if he was side a then he was the a side. sorry if you dont like how words work.

i am curious what this WBC,IBF and CC says when wilder vs fury does less than 300k ppv buys and fails to sell out the staples centre in LA he will then say showtime quoted less numbers to avoid tax and the staples did not sell out because 8k got lost in down town LA and missed the fight. He is a fool yammy Have you ever driven in downtown LA? It could happen!

Who was the A-side? http://pound4poundmemorabilia.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Joshua-Signed-Martin-Programme.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0YegyS4pkw8/maxresdefault.jpg Who is the A-side? https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-8fimBWLG74/maxresdefault.jpg the a-side is whoever is on side a. do you not understand english?

I don't think they will mind that deal if the fight is in the USA Sounds fair

What active American boxer are you claiming is more popular than Wilder? Anyone anybody that dos not have an avatar of crooked (En ti tis, da mn site) tells me.

You can carry on being derogatory and demeaning to any and all who you view to question your almighty wisdom and knowledge. Question all you want. I'm happy to answer. I am derogatory and demeaning to people who are rude *******s. Polite people who disagree are responded to politely. If you weren't aware that companies spend so much time and money studying the internet metrics of athletes and entertainers they might do business with, you could have said you weren't aware instead of claiming I was an idiot for telling you something I know for a fact.

It's standard to have the champion first. Has nothing to do with A/B side. There's some exceptions of course but that s the standard. Champion is normally the A-side, which is why champion is normally listed first. When challenger is the A-side, challenger is listed first. When Mikey Garcia was the challenger against Lipinets, Garcia was the A-side, and therefore listed first. When Crawford was the challenger against Horn, Crawford was the A-side, and therefore listed first.

We'll see when the numbers come in for this fight won't we We'll see exactly how wrong I am with my uneducated guesses about how many buys this fight does . What it's attendance and gate revenues are and what splits and financials are given and accepted for the AJ / Wilder fight when it happens. Until then... You can carry on being derogatory and demeaning to any and all who you view to question your almighty wisdom and knowledge. Plenty of posts of mine included my projections for the above topics. Feel free to cite them should I be wrong and I shall be happy to admit I was . Until then, I'm remaining firm in my position that Wilders deluded..isn't worth anywhere near what you seem to value his overall worth to be and that in 90% of our interactions on here you persist , and likely revel in some degree, in being a condescending , holier than thou wank stain. i am curious what this WBC,IBF and CC says when wilder vs fury does less than 300k ppv buys and fails to sell out the staples centre in LA he will then say showtime quoted less numbers to avoid tax and the staples did not sell out because 8k got lost in down town LA and missed the fight. He is a fool yammy

You're an uneducated inexperienced amateur that has absolutely no way of knowing how things work. You've never sold an event to a network. You've never signed a fighter. You've never done anything. Social media metrics and google trends are taken very seriously and tracked closely by networks, promoters, managers, venues, etc. Is it the only factor or most important factor? No. But it helps you track if a fighter is gaining or losing steam, along with many other methods. It's one of the tools used. Wilder's following has increased by 33% since knocking out Stiverne less than a year ago. He has momentum. That knockout went viral and it correlated with an increase in social media follows and google searches for his name. You can scoff all you want at the role internet data plays, but the people spending the money takes it very seriously. AJ's incredible following is a big part of how he's secured so many endorsements. Maybe you should spend a little less time pontificating about topics you know absolutely nothing about and be a little more open minded so you might actually learn something. I've been in meetings with DAZN. Have you? One of the first things they asked was the social media reach of my fighters. It's okay that you're clueless. You're a fan. I don't expect you to have a clue. The problem is how sure you are that you know how things work, even though there's absolutely no reason why you would know. We'll see when the numbers come in for this fight won't we We'll see exactly how wrong I am with my uneducated guesses about how many buys this fight does . What it's attendance and gate revenues are and what splits and financials are given and accepted for the AJ / Wilder fight when it happens. Until then... You can carry on being derogatory and demeaning to any and all who you view to question your almighty wisdom and knowledge. Plenty of posts of mine included my projections for the above topics. Feel free to cite them should I be wrong and I shall be happy to admit I was . Until then, I'm remaining firm in my position that Wilders deluded..isn't worth anywhere near what you seem to value his overall worth to be and that in 90% of our interactions on here you persist , and likely revel in some degree, in being a condescending , holier than thou wank stain.

Champions usually gets more everything being equal, no? He gave Fury 50% because Fury is the A-side. The A-side is who is listed first. Side A. So Wilder is technically the A-side. Realistically, since it's a 50/50 fight, like Lewis-Tyson was, there's no traditional A-side, but somebody has to have their name first, technically making them the A-Side.

Absolute rubbbbiiiissshhhh.... Nobody deciphers deontay Wilders percentage or guarantees based on his Instagram follow numbers and there's no empricial data that directly translates those into active network subscriptions or perceived buy rates. You're an uneducated inexperienced amateur that has absolutely no way of knowing how things work. You've never sold an event to a network. You've never signed a fighter. You've never done anything. Social media metrics and google trends are taken very seriously and tracked closely by networks, promoters, managers, venues, etc. Is it the only factor or most important factor? No. But it helps you track if a fighter is gaining or losing steam, along with many other methods. It's one of the tools used. Wilder's following has increased by 33% since knocking out Stiverne less than a year ago. He has momentum. That knockout went viral and it correlated with an increase in social media follows and google searches for his name. You can scoff all you want at the role internet data plays, but the people spending the money takes it very seriously. AJ's incredible following is a big part of how he's secured so many endorsements. Maybe you should spend a little less time pontificating about topics you know absolutely nothing about and be a little more open minded so you might actually learn something. I've been in meetings with DAZN. Have you? One of the first things they asked was the social media reach of my fighters. It's okay that you're clueless. You're a fan. I don't expect you to have a clue. The problem is how sure you are that you know how things work, even though there's absolutely no reason why you would know.

Joshua has 7.5 million followers so given how strongly you feel about Insta followers as a measure of popularity then an 88-12 Joshua split is the only fair compromise in this case! Mayweather has 22 million on Instagram, and Conor McGregor has 29 million, so nobody would argue that Conor deserved a higher split just based on that platform. Social media is just one piece of the pie, but of course you must look at all of the factors. For AJ vs. Wilder, the biggest factor will be the Wilder vs. Fury numbers. If fans want to see AJ vs. Wilder, the best thing you can do is buy the Wilder vs. Fury fight. Show Eddie that Wilder commands a major audience and he will have no choice but to make the fight happen.