BI-POLAR EDDIE HEARN FLIP FLOPS & OFFERS WILDER 50/50 FOR JOSHUA FIGHT IF WILDER-FURY DOES 1M BUYS
GREEDY SQUIRM ISN’T GOOD FOR BOXING!
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Hearn just wants to flood the boxing news sites with talk about Joshua-Wilder, he is jealous of the attention Wilder-Tyson brings. He is jealous that Joshua didnt get the same amount of attention when he fought 80 year old shot Povekin.
His contract with Sky Expired after the Parker fight you dimwits. The renewal with Sky was announced in Late JULY
The $50M offer came in LATE MAY. Joshua legally could’ve fought on BT. This BT rubbish only came out in August when Warren did a interview.
and it’s not relevant as the fight was being financed from the US Side of things.
UK PPV was just pennies on top.
And none of this is relevant to Eddie Hearn. He works for Joshua. If his client is getting the best deal he can, and there’s nothing to stop him, why not accept the deal ?
and what was the date for the fight if they accepted that $50m offer?
A man and his teams offered 50mil and they weren’t happy that they were shown up on their 50mil request. All Wilder wants is 50% which is fair.
I mustnt be an imbecile to know that AJ is a live duck.
You see the light!!!...
Wilder offered 50mil. That's more than his average. It was a very fantastic offer considering he has the WBC belt...not just a belt...THE BEST BELT!
Exactly!...
This fight isn’t going to happen unless it gets mandated, I bet that Joshua would rather relenquish his belts than face Wilder sooner than later!
Remember Barry told Eddie to wait the fight for 2 years, which would now bring the fight to fall 2019/early 2020!!!
A man and his teams accepted 15mil and were happy. All of a sudden he wants 60%.
You mustnt be an imbecile to know that this is a live duck.
Exactly! You hit the nail on the head word for word! If this were Deontay turning down $50M to fight Joshua you’d never hear the end of it, some would call that cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy!
Wilder accepted 15mil. That's like X7 of his average. It was a very fantastic offer considering he has just a belt.
Asking for $50M is Joshua’s way to avoid the fight with Wilder but Wilder took him up on that offer and AJ & Hearn backtracked because they really don’t wanna fight Wilder,
Remember what Barry Hearn told Eddie??? To wait 2 years to make the Wilder-Joshua fight???
Yeah, because they don’t wanna miss all the money they’ll lose if AJ fights Wilder now, greedy bastards!
Am sure accepting a contract then use date of fight as an excuse is a better way of ducking a fight, right?
What a smart dude.
Just the day before that...Eddie was spazzin’ out on Wilder to say the least over 60/40 let alone 50/50
Also the lowball, shows he doesn’t want the fight even Barry Hearn said it was too early for Joshua, if the fight were to be held in America it would do just as a good as a Wembley sold out arena financially or even better!
Btw what’s Joshua’s most revenue generating fight???
I think to keep people like you happy, wilder should be giving 80% so you can have a decent sleep and have peace of mind.
You nuthuggers.
Some one that has no ppv record to base your analysis on should be giving 50/50? Are u a retard?
This fight isn’t going to happen unless it gets mandated, I bet that Joshua would rather relenquish his belts than face Wilder sooner than later!
Remember Barry told Eddie to wait the fight for 2 years, which would now bring the fight to fall 2019/early 2020!!!
Yeah the only hindrance to that being that Hearn said he's happy to offer 35/40 provided wilder wins and wins well.
Let's face reality and say he does no more than 400k.. or at least absolute reality unequivocally and say he doesn't touch a million buys to be given 50/50 like Hearn said .
If he gets offered 40 he HAS to take it.
It doesn't matter if the money is coming from DAZN or showtime or what... If he's offered that amount he should take it. End of.
If he decides he's going to prove himself out with 50/50 with poor buy rates from the fury fight.. or even worse 60/40 in his favour.. or decide that he won't take any amount on the principle that hearns promoting or its on DAZN..then that's a straight duck.
We'll just have to wait and see I guess.
I agree he should take 40-45% depending on the numbers but hes not getting 50/50 unless it does 1mil buys which we all know isn't happening. we shall see.
the issue was that AJ asked for 50mil.... it was offered, but politics and business from hearn came into play and AJ was silenced and muzzled from the media for months by hearn, If there was no hearn aj would have taken the 50mil with no hesitation, But as hearn stated they have an 8 year plan with AJ so of course taking the wilder fight in 2018 is not in their plans. I understand it was all business, and hearn did what he thought was best for his fighter. What really are we going back n forth about? Im a fan, I just want to see the fight, the politics and the rest is really not my interest. If hearn wanted the fight he would have offered wilder at least 33% and not a flat fee, it was never in his plans to fight him this year.... Fans should be demanding the best fights, not hiding behind politics and numbers for bragging rights.
Yeah the only hindrance to that being that Hearn said he's happy to offer 35/40 provided wilder wins and wins well.
Let's face reality and say he does no more than 400k.. or at least absolute reality unequivocally and say he doesn't touch a million buys to be given 50/50 like Hearn said .
If he gets offered 40 he HAS to take it.
It doesn't matter if the money is coming from DAZN or showtime or what... If he's offered that amount he should take it. End of.
If he decides he's going to prove himself out with 50/50 with poor buy rates from the fury fight.. or even worse 60/40 in his favour.. or decide that he won't take any amount on the principle that hearns promoting or its on DAZN..then that's a straight duck.
We'll just have to wait and see I guess.
Yeah you're admitting the main ****ing point of this whole topic...
If they took that offer it means that Hearn isn't promoting.. therefore he has no say in allocation of distribution rights for foreign territories for TV.
It was reveleaed that Warren and BT were working with Finkel on that 50 million offer.. they admitted it! Therefore UK TV rights would have gone to BT sport's and because he had no say in the TV distribution to territories within that offer then AJ would have been in direct contravention of his exclusive UK rights deal with Sky sports.. effectively killing the fight!!
Joshua fights cannot be broadcast in the UK on a channel other than SKY.. if Hearn accepted that offer and relinquished control of TV distribution to Finkel and associates then it would have been given to BT and Hearn would have agreed on it.
Thats why he repeatedly asked for a terms sheet..and was never provided one. That's why he was repeatedly told to accept the offer publicly before being provided with one..so if he did come to see it and saw the inevitable BT involvement it would have to cancelled and it would cause even larger damage to credibility and potential legal issues.
the issue was that AJ asked for 50mil.... it was offered, but politics and business from hearn came into play and AJ was silenced and muzzled from the media for months by hearn, If there was no hearn aj would have taken the 50mil with no hesitation, But as hearn stated they have an 8 year plan with AJ so of course taking the wilder fight in 2018 is not in their plans. I understand it was all business, and hearn did what he thought was best for his fighter. What really are we going back n forth about? Im a fan, I just want to see the fight, the politics and the rest is really not my interest. If hearn wanted the fight he would have offered wilder at least 33% and not a flat fee, it was never in his plans to fight him this year.... Fans should be demanding the best fights, not hiding behind politics and numbers for bragging rights.
No... In the Manny / PAC situation you had two fighters.. one each per network.
There were viable claims for both and it was in the main market for each fighter and in all parties best interests to split the telecast.
Wilder does not have a deal with BT ..he has no UK network deal at all for exclusivity .There is absolutely no reason for BT to be involved in this fight whatsoever.
When you have the A side..undeniably the A side in Anthony joshua signed to an exclusive UK rights deal with Sky sports.. and then offer him a "guarantee" of X or y amount whereby some of that money has now admittedly been fronted by the direct UK competitor of sky sports..it's simply never going to Happen.
With that guarantee being accepted by Hearn it would have meant that finkel / tbg /dibella etc would have been the promoters retaining distribution rights and the UK distribution rights of that fight would have gone directly to BT. There would be no tender ..it would have been part of the agreement that for putting any amount of involvement or finance into the guarantee, that BT got UK rights on that fight. That is an absolute deal killer.
You can spew 50 million all you want.. but when it means that upon acceptance , Joshua would be in direct contravention of his UK broadcast exclusivity contract and SKY would lose the fight, it was never going to happen and Finkel and all involved knew that.Good luck getting them to accept that as the truth, they've been told dozens of times at this point yet they ignore it and carry on blaming Eddie Hearn.
Hearn knew the money was legit but they didn't agree to the offer over location, so what exactly is there to talk about after that? if they weren't going to budge on the location that means the $50mil is really of no importance, if AJ took the $50mil u all know wilder would want it in America where hearn admitted it would make more money. or am I missing something???????
Yeah you're admitting the main ****ing point of this whole topic...
If they took that offer it means that Hearn isn't promoting.. therefore he has no say in allocation of distribution rights for foreign territories for TV.
It was reveleaed that Warren and BT were working with Finkel on that 50 million offer.. they admitted it! Therefore UK TV rights would have gone to BT sport's and because he had no say in the TV distribution to territories within that offer then AJ would have been in direct contravention of his exclusive UK rights deal with Sky sports.. effectively killing the fight!!
Joshua fights cannot be broadcast in the UK on a channel other than SKY.. if Hearn accepted that offer and relinquished control of TV distribution to Finkel and associates then it would have been given to BT and Hearn would have agreed on it.
Thats why he repeatedly asked for a terms sheet..and was never provided one. That's why he was repeatedly told to accept the offer publicly before being provided with one..so if he did come to see it and saw the inevitable BT involvement it would have to cancelled and it would cause even larger damage to credibility and potential legal issues.
Im pretty certain wilders going to lose to Fury anyway, so it won't matter if he does 1m buys or not, because he will be lucky to get 20% if he loses to Fury.
But that was their prerogative to.. I never said he didn't say the amount was real... But he was never shown any terms or contracts which is why he said no lol.
If he was shown those terms it would have listed BT involvement and the fight wouldnt have happened either
That offer.. should have been given with complete transparency with inclusions as to where the rights for territories would be going or if they were to be put out to tender for bidding
He was told that he wouldn't be shown anything like that until he agreed to accept the offer. That's called dealing in bad faith.. and other promoters and managers said they'd have done the same as Hearn.
Hearn knew the money was legit but they didn't agree to the offer over location, so what exactly is there to talk about after that? if they weren't going to budge on the location that means the $50mil is really of no importance, if AJ took the $50mil u all know wilder would want it in America where hearn admitted it would make more money. or am I missing something???????
“The horse-choking figure was confirmed by Eddie Hearn, who is in New York this week for talks with Finkel to make that fight happen. ”
“First, as Finkel forthrightly notes, the money now on the table is four times what Joshua and the Hearns have been offering Wilder to come to fight in Britain.”
“the amount is Mr. Finkel’s way of saying to the Hearns: This is bigger than you think, so don’t bother nickel-and-diming us.
Bottom line: The Hearns certainly seem to want to keep on doing what they do with Joshua, namely, filling stadiums in the UK. It may not be in their interest, nor in that of their fighter, to come to the States for an arguably larger purse, split 50/50, as opposed to 60/40, which was part of the offer they tendered Wilder. A 50/50 split of a $50-million pot is still four times the split of a $12-million-to-$15-million pot in Great Britain. Despite that, it will still be tough to say how Friday’s negotiations will turn out. What’s for sure at this point is that Fast Eddie and his daddy are facing a long Thursday to ponder the the curlicues of the math.
Friday’s $50-million question will be: Against the formidable Mr. Finkel, does Fast Eddie have a leg up? Or, by denigrating the dollars right off the bat, will that self-inflicted bayonet wound force him to pull up lame?”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/guymartin/2018/04/26/deontay-wilder-and-shelly-finkel-offer-anthony-joshua-50-million-to-fight-joshua-to-respond-friday/
Seems like you’re the one that’s “really slow”, not only that but not in the know!
Wow what a dummy
Did you read the article ? Hearn questioned if the offer was real
“No offense to Deontay, but I don’t believe he has $50 million. If we can receive some formal paperwork and proof of funds then it’s definitely something we want to discuss”
Read the above clown
Guess what, No evidence or contract was sent.
Only one who sent one was Hearn on behalf of Joshua
Recently frank warren said the 50m was coming from him and bt sport contradicting this lol
All the article has is guess work by a wilder fan suggesting by the language
You have been exposed as a liar and a fraud. You are pathetic