I don’t get how some of these fighters have fans when it’s clear as day that they duck the best fights because they don’t want to be in a situation where they’re at a high risk of losing. There’s certain fighters I use to be a fan of but not anymore because they constantly make excuses & it’s just a turn off from being a fan of theirs any longer.
is that why he fought alex brand, tried to get an opponent so low ranked that it got blocked due to safety concerns (forget his name but can dig it out if needs be) and then phoned frank buglioni for a fight who declined before ward suddenly decided he'd lost his love for the sport?
Lend no credibility to anything this racist scum bag posts. He is so mad about his man crush (ggg) ducking s Ward fight he'll post anything negative about Ward. He once posted that Ward was a wife beater and claimed he had the links to prove it. I've pressed him repeatedly for those links and to date he's produced ZERO!
is that why he fought alex brand, tried to get an opponent so low ranked that it got blocked due to safety concerns (forget his name but can dig it out if needs be) and then phoned frank buglioni for a fight who declined before ward suddenly decided he'd lost his love for the sport?
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man you should really stop trying to slam other fighters when you sucked GGG off and all he did was fight nobodies.
He sold him out in Australia then fed Horn to Bud. Right? Pac cut everybody off after that.
Yeah man Horn was never supposed to win that..much less “controversially”.
I doubt that was planned just to feed Bud because beating Horn did zero for him or Arum. It’s the big platform Pac would have brought to show everyone Bud but..s hit happens I guess. Pac is still largely the cash cow of the division but neither Bud nor him can make the claim as the best 47 pounder..something Arum would have loved to hype had Bud beaten Pac and Arum start screaming s hit like “passing of the torch.”
Not getting Pac has slowed down the progress of Bud it seems and Pac can take comfort in at least delaying Arum’s plan I guess and sticking it to him in some way.
is that why he fought alex brand, tried to get an opponent so low ranked that it got blocked due to safety concerns (forget his name but can dig it out if needs be) and then phoned frank buglioni for a fight who declined before ward suddenly decided he'd lost his love for the sport?
brand was a sparring session that he held the kovalev fight "hostage" for.....he got hbo to give him a free 1.5 payday to spar on tv so that they could guarantee theyd get the kovalev fight...it was pretty smart of ward considering hed missed out on almost 2 years of wages......youre the first person ive seen really make fun of that fight because everyone knows what it was
desperate reach by the gggroupies....ward moved up and beat a p4p killer twice...lil waited for a jr mw to come up and has yet to beat him once...LOL
Problem is, these guys have managers, promoters, trainers, that have a say. Fans have this simple vision of the sport that two guys decide to fight each other. Money dictates everything in this sport.
AJ is protected and his promoter has kept him away from the best fight possible for him. But, I'm not going to dislike AJ because of that. If it continued on for years, I'd then hold him responsible for not finding a new promoter.
If I automatically disliked everyone who didn't always fight the best, they're would no one to like in this sport right now.
Top Rank couldn't get Pacquiao-Crawford done when that was the fight for Crawford to build him into a star. Do people forget about this?
To be fair, I think Pac wasn’t interested as Arum didnt want to pay him what he wanted and he knew full well this was for Crawford’s benefit and not his. Pacquiao’s legacy is set, he’s not hurting for that type of fight at this stagewhen hes fought better.
Let Arum sell you out? I guess he was done with that ish. Everyone knew Arum was trying to use Pac as the stepping stone. Pac told him to f uck off and rode out
PRIDE! If a guys is from their Country, City, State, Continent or whatever, fans will stick up for that guy no matter what clearly, even when their guy is ducking quality opponents to protect a 0, Belt or Positioning in the Sport those fans will go out of their way to make excuses for him
He wanted the fight. But he wanted his $20 mil guarantee. Bud was much more beatable at that stage than he is now. Bob didn't want to make that investment into Bud.
I just remember Roach saying in 2017 that he didn’t want Manny taking that fight. I don’t think Manny deep down wanted it either to be honest at this point. If he wanted it it would easily be made since he’s still the biggest fighter in boxing outside of Canelo.
That's why I'm a fan of Andre Ward. He's always wanted the best fights. When he came off his layoff he told them to give me one of the boogeymen. Either Kovalev or GGG.
I give Danny Garcia a lot of **** but he has taken the best fights. It's those fights in between the best fights......
Canelo is another one who has always taken the best fights.
Ward is the first guy I thought of that is the complete opposite of what this thread is about. He always fought the best possible opposition that he could.
oh so u mean the top wws that are “advised” by haymon kind of thing? Like the thurmans, porters, danny garcias not taking a fight with spence?
Yes i completely agree with you and yet some people on this site actually believe porter is going to fight spence next HAHAHA LMAO yeahhhh sure porter will fight spence next... NOT!
Top Rank couldn't get Pacquiao-Crawford done when that was the fight for Crawford to build him into a star. Do people forget about this?
Pacquiao at this stage in his career doesn’t want high risk fights like that anymore. The guy is almost 40 so I can’t really blame him to a degree. He should just take the Floyd rematch & than call it a day since I don’t want to see Pacquiao only fight B/C level fighters outside of Floyd.
Examples of said fighters?
I think its hard to say who's wanting or not wanting to fight the best at the top levels of the sport. There are too many alliances with networks, promoters & ABC groups that make sh^t difficult from jump street. You either gotta believe everything a fighter says or not believe anything they say on a selective basis to make huge assumptions like that. There are available TV date issues. There are mando issues. There are money issues. There are small print contract issues like options & rematches. There is so much bs going on to make a fight in this era I think its usually just an unfair thing to say many guys aren't willing to fight anyone if its something that can legit be done, it legit makes sense & its legit money.
lol I didn’t really want to mention specific fighters since it’ll probably turn the thread into a huge heated argument which isn’t my intention. But I just don’t see how it can be that difficult if for instance 2 fighters under the same network can’t make the fight happen. Something tells me 1 of them doesn’t want the fight. In the case of something like Crawford vs. Spence I get it since it’s 2 fighters under 2 different networks & promoters which makes things a lot more difficult. But if 2 fighters that fight on Showtime can’t get a fight somewhat easily done than there’s a problem there.