this seems like the excuses that's been running round this forum lately... the excuses that manny "priced" himself out of a fight with crawford.
let me remind yall that manny got $23 mil for fighting chris algieri. yall gonna tell me that algieri is more known than crawford?? yall telling me a fight with manny vs algieri sounds a lot better than manny vs crawford??
if arum was able to pull some strings and was able to make the fight happen with pac getting $23 mil, why couldnt he do the same for manny vs crawford? BECAUSE the risk is there! pac is getting ready to leave TR, arum knows this.
he's not gonna let manny sailed to PBC with $20 mil in his pocket and a victory over crawford! lol!!!
manny got $23 mil for algieri
manny got $18 mil guarantee but could get $30 mil for rios
manny got $20 mil for the 3rd bradley fight
manny got $10 mil guarantee for horn but could get over $15 mil
.... now all of a sudden, $20 mil is too much to ask for???
That uppercut got you emotional.
No.
But I was very emotional when your mom got raped & impregnated by a pack of down syndrome crack-heads. I begged her to abort you , for the sake of mankind.
I just want to see the best fight the best , and your hero terrence coward-ford turned down a fight several times when Jose was at his best.
But you obviously condone those cowardly acts , cause chickens of a feather flock together.
Pacquiao vs Horn. Low risk, low reward. Pac took the loss and made squat comparitivly soeaking. Pacquiao vs Crawford high risk, high reward,..... but for who?!?!?!?! Manny is the Canelo lottery (big draw name) bout and Crawford and arum damned well know it. They know a Pac/FM rematch would make more for Pacquiao than Crawford would ever make in ten fights. They are the B side that should be giving Pacquiao the top billing. And thats only from a business stand point.
From a fight point of view, Crawford can take whats given to him and fight Pac, get a Spence showdown, or fight another low rank be level ww to “hone his ww skills” and make squat in Omaha. Spence will dominate Crawford after a few rounds and give him a beating the likes he has never seen,.....mama better get that $10 bill ironed and ready,...Pacquiao will buzz him with speed and quickness that he has yet to encounter and take a lopsided unanimous defeat on the score cards,...get that $10 bill ready mama,....or pad his record with another scrub fighter. At this point I'd rather see a Pacquiao fight to test Crawford. A win is a sure beeline to a Spence showdown,...but a loss will mean goodbye to omaha and welcome to the real world of boxing. Big city lights are a callin ya Bud!!!!
Terrence Coward-ford the racist anit-Mexican protected inbred rat , ducked Manny Paquiao & the 100% version of Jose Benavidez for years.
He's got the complexion for the protection!
That uppercut got you emotional.
Agree with all of this minus the lil boy floy bit and the part about him fighting whoever. He is/was a truly great, great fighter, it is demeaning watching him against the likes of Matthysse and...erm...Broner?
It's sad that the second richest fighter in history is fighting these guys and most likely needs the money. How do ppl like him, Tyson, probably floy, Holyfield and co lose SO MUCH MONEY?
Anyway, he should either do one big fight, a horn rematch or just retire.
because they're still getting $20+ mil. why would anyone stop if they can still do it? most of the boxers that retired and stayed retired is because they werent making jack shiiet so there's no point in coming back! lol. floyd or manny, they can fight a known top fighter right now and will make good money. when this stops, that's when they'll retire for good.
I mean... you can’t price yourself out if you’re the A side lol.
I dont think anyone really believes that he priced himself out of anything outside the Floyd fight at some point (which was arguable as well).
Pac is by FAR the cash cow of the 147 pound division. Doesnt mean he’s the best, but he is the money maker and everyone wants to be the guy to put him over and “inheret” the torch of sorts.
I honestly dont even care who Manny fights at this point. Glad to see him make his money and hopefully retire without much further punishment. Ride out into the sunset. Gave us over a decade’s worth of blood and excitement.
Agree with all of this minus the lil boy floy bit and the part about him fighting whoever. He is/was a truly great, great fighter, it is demeaning watching him against the likes of Matthysse and...erm...Broner?
It's sad that the second richest fighter in history is fighting these guys and most likely needs the money. How do ppl like him, Tyson, probably floy, Holyfield and co lose SO MUCH MONEY?
Anyway, he should either do one big fight, a horn rematch or just retire.
Terrence Coward-ford the racist anit-Mexican protected inbred rat , ducked Manny Paquiao & the 100% version of Jose Benavidez for years.
He's got the complexion for the protection!
Pacquiao would have given Crawford his first loss. But Bob Arum kept protecting the Omaha native from harm's way.
HBO wanted Crawford vs Matthysse (GBP), Arum said no and gave Postol to Oscar, instead. HBO was forced to feature 2 foreign fighters who nobody knew existed with a heavy heart.
HBO then wanted Pacquiao vs Crawford. Arum said no again, and he gave Vargas, instead.
Crawford is not even that big. He's only 5'8". I watched his fight with Dierry and kept thinking if that was Pac, Crawford would have been dropped on his ass.
After Crawford vs Benavidez it's clear Pacquiao has nothing to fear or duck in a bout with Crawford. also Manny doesn't have to do a damn thing. he could fight Berto three times if he feels like and I'm good with it. Pac paid the cost to be the boss. he's a triple OG. Crawford still has baby nuts in this boxing game. same with Floyd. those two guys don't have sht else to prove.
you cant price yourself out when you asked for a purse that you've been getting!!!
pricing yourself out would be to ask for a purse that you have never even got. for example, broner asking for $100 mil for pac or floyd. that's pricing yourself out!
You're only worth as much as someone is willing to offer and/or negotiate.
Manny isn't bringing in the money he used to, so I don't think Bob was obligated to pay him 20 or Crawford.
Algieri fight was before he lost to Mayweather and Horn. His profile has declined since then.
history shows that fighters who were signed to arum and is leaving him, never ends well. arum will not grant them what they want.
manny pricing himself out would be asking for $50 mil.. aside from the floyd fight, this is an amount he has never got from a single fight alone. that would be consider "pricing" himself out.
but he asked for $20 mil, which is along the line of what he's been getting for his fights! how is this consider pricing himself out when that's what he was getting thru out his career?
You're only worth as much as someone is willing to offer and/or negotiate.
Manny isn't bringing in the money he used to, so I don't think Bob was obligated to pay him 20 or Crawford.
Algieri fight was before he lost to Mayweather and Horn. His profile has declined since then.
manny vs algieri = bob was willing to work and pull strings to make this fight because pac is still consider bob's only cash cow. they wanted to make manny look good so they can have leverage for future fights by promoting it as a new manny.
manny vs crawford = end of pac's contract with top rank. pac wasnt looking to re-sign. all the signs were there. why would arum pull strings to make this fight happen and award pac with $20 mil when manny is leaving right after that fight?
like i said, if arum wanted to make pac vs crawford, it would have been done! you're telling me top rank and arum wont be able to promote a pac vs crawford fight to the public??
you telling me crawford being seen as a better fighter than floyd and also is still undefeated cant be promoted right???
You're only worth as much as someone is willing to offer and/or negotiate.
Manny isn't bringing in the money he used to, so I don't think Bob was obligated to pay him 20 or Crawford.
Algieri fight was before he lost to Mayweather and Horn. His profile has declined since then.
manny against algieri is no different than the manny now. only thing is that bob was willing to pull strings to make that fight happen. even in the 3rd fight against bradley (when pac lost to floyd already), he still made $20 mil!!! that manny is no different than the manny today.
You're only worth as much as someone is willing to offer and/or negotiate.
Manny isn't bringing in the money he used to, so I don't think Bob was obligated to pay him 20 or Crawford.
Algieri fight was before he lost to Mayweather and Horn. His profile has declined since then.
He is but I dont think Crawford whitewashes him. Still my money would be on Crawford, obviously
moneys on pac, crawford hasnt shown me anything. when has manny ever been beaten the fcck up? even in his early fights where he got stopped, etc. he was never getting beaten the hell up!
even in the 4th fight against marquez, prior to the ko, he was not getting beat the fcck up. crawford will find out real fast that manny is not like the rest of the b-c level guys he's been fighting.
Manny is washed up and old. Give him credit for being smart enough to realize that and avoid Crawford. I dont like it when fighters stick around getting their ass kicked.
He is but I dont think Crawford whitewashes him. Still my money would be on Crawford, obviously
Exactly like. Probably make Manny hit the deck with the same uppercut.
Manny probably could win more than 2 rounds though unlike Jose.
couldnt even stop a one legged benavidezWHO!! lol.. needed the ref's help just like in the horn fight. :rofl: he p4p#1 doe!
I would put my money on Crawford but I am not so sure it would have been that easy. Crawford hasnt proven anything against elite fighters yet.
Yes the eye test is there and I would put my money on him but I dont see him beating the brakes off his little ass as you would say...
Manny is washed up and old. Give him credit for being smart enough to realize that and avoid Crawford. I dont like it when fighters stick around getting their ass kicked.
It's a good thing he did duck. Bud would have beat the brakes off his little ass.
I would put my money on Crawford but I am not so sure it would have been that easy. Crawford hasnt proven anything against elite fighters yet.
Yes the eye test is there and I would put my money on him but I dont see him beating the brakes off his little ass as you would say...
like how bud beat the breaks off handicap benavidezWHO?
Exactly like. Probably make Manny hit the deck with the same uppercut.
Manny probably could win more than 2 rounds though unlike Jose.
why even bother going back and forth with haters. Manny and Roach knew it was a dangerous fight and wanted bigger money for the fight... Thats it.. Manny never been known to duck fighters (ofcourse his haters will claim hes a ducker will praising guys with 0 names on their resume). It was a higher risk fight that he wanted to be compensated for it, which is normal...