It's good to see people are finally seeing Wilder ducked

Not really. why not AJ will make more money if the if Wilder ppv dose bad and if dose good he still will make more money because more people will want to see the fight

Why is it inflated? Because promoters always exaggerate purses when they know the filed number won't be made public. We know he does 800k-1.4 million PPVs at 25USD - That's not just Eddie saying it the numbers are public now. That's USD20-35m of revenue. Half of which is kept by the PPV provider. He pulled in 1.2million (peak) viewers for free in his biggest fight yet That's a lie. His biggest free fight peaked at over 3 million viewers. The truth is there's an astronomical difference in drawing power. Probably 10-1 in AJs favour if not more. Domestic TV rights for a Wilder fight are likely 5-6 million. Domestic TV rights for an AJ fight, using your own numbers, would be 13-14 million. That's not 10 to 1. We know you're a fanboy I'm not even a fan, let alone a fan boy. I couldn't care less about Wilder or AJ. I wish them both the best. I'd like for them to fight because an undisputed champion attracts new fans to the sport. But I couldn't care less who wins. If people were lying about AJ, I'd be defending AJ. People are lying about Wilder, so I'm defending Wilder. His fight do not generate any income of significance in a market so huge. His last fight was the 2nd largest crowd in Barclays history and had very very expensive ticket prices. He's the biggest ratings draw on Showtime. Showtime pays an average of $5 million per PBC event and they likely pay well over average for a Wilder fight since his fights attract the largest viewership. Just because Wilder doesn't generate as much income as AJ doesn't mean you have to lie and say he doesn't generate any income at all. A Wilder fight generates over a million at the gate. Likely $6 million from Showtime. Plus overseas TVs, merchandise, other rights, etc. How many heavyweights are generating 8-10 million every time they fight? Yes, AJ is king. Good for him. Doesn't mean we have to pretend that others are doing worse than they are. AJ's accomplishments should be able to stand on their own without lying about others.

No. You don't. It's just something Hearn claims. You have no idea what AJ is actually filing and you have no idea what he's actually making. Could AJ be making 20 million? Looking at the numbers, I think it's likely he is, but it's also likely Wilder is making 4-5 million. The problem is you're looking at Wilder's bogus deflated filed number and comparing it to Hearn's unverified claimed number, which is likely inflated. To only use the filed # of one fighter shows you're not discussing in good faith. Why is it inflated? We know he does 800k-1.4 million PPVs at 25USD - That's not just Eddie saying it the numbers are public now. That's USD20-35m of revenue. Then we add the 10 million gate, the 2-3m international TV revenue and sponsorships, let's say 500k. That's nearly 50million (best case). Since AJ owns the financials of the show, he has expenses unlike Wilder. There's 20% for Eddie, so we're down to 40million. Then there's let's estimate 2million for the undercard, we're down to 38 million. Then the opponent generally gets between 20-30%. The rest is for AJ, which is between 25-30 (ish) best case, and 18-25 in worse cases. Whether Wilder is being paid under the table by Uncle Al is completely irrelevant in a discussion about market worth. He pulled in 1.2million (peak) viewers for free in his biggest fight yet, that's less than what AJ just sold on PPV in a country 1/6th of the size. His gate didn't even generate Joshua's DAZN money. So whatever someone decides to pay him extra has nothing to do with his market value in a direct battle. The truth is there's an astronomical difference in drawing power. Probably 10-1 in AJs favour if not more. We know you're a fanboy and you'll try to come back and say Wilder gets paid more and bla bla bla. He is not a draw, that's a fact. His fight do not generate any income of significance in a market so huge. AJ however, does generate massive amounts of income which is why Showtime were so desperate to get him and also were so bitter when he signed for DAZN. They would rather want AJ on Showtime than Wilder, you can bet your bottom dollar on that.

ok fine 65 -35 my point still makes the best business sense Not really.

he took a gaurantee of 20 home from Povetkin I find that to be very believable. But what was his filed number? I'm not denying that AJ might make 20 million a fight. What I'm denying is that Wilder only makes 2 million. He was likely paid 4-5 million for his last fight, not 2. For all you know, AJ's filed purse was 8 million, even if he was paid 20. Filed purses for stars are always bogus. So it's ludicrous to compare AJ's real purse to Wilder's fake purse.

Please show us where Joshua filed a purse of 21 million. Thanks. 2.4 million vs 21 million there you go

Is this a satirical post or some such? Am I too old to get it? This is memeing or whatever right? Children's bull**** yeah? Alright son I'll switch gears. I am not Italian. I am Puerto Rican. England had nothing to do with my history. I am from a Spanish colony. The most you can say to me is after the people who were not as into fairy accents, womens clothes, makeup, or being a servant to a monarch as your folks are from your nation that came here to speak like a man, wear man's clothes, serve no monarch, and worship how they please came here your people started playing second fiddle to them. Like you had a big ol' culture split your folks were on the losing side of. <----That photo is Rocky Marciano. See my pseudonym, sorry moniker, shoot that's probably rough vocabulary for you as well......my username is Marchegiano. As in Rocco Marchegiano. As in Rocky Marciano's real name because Marciano is a stage name for Americans who can't pronounce Marchegiano. Do you know the history of Cribb-Molineaux? Not only did the 1810s Americans beat the ever living **** out of the 1810s British on the battlefield so did the American champion beat the ever living **** out of the English champion. Battle for New Orleans? Someone needs to tell Horton about the battle for the bronze. Again, Spanish. If you were Spanish I might maybe feel inclined to defend something here but your not. You are just another arrogant Englishmen that thinks the world still revolves around the BE. Regardless of what you think of my opinion it is spectacular that you'd rather demonize me prior to learning anything about your own history. Tell me again how many times has an English champion called for a specific purse, got it, and refused to fight? Oh but having killed loads and loads of mainlander american natives is something youse like to remember and accredit to yourself? Seems like when England wins England remembers and when you don't it's conveniently lost or in this case suspect history. This is boxing son, you're meant to draw national lines. Doesn't mean you have to be a clueless **** when doing it. didn't wilder declare that he would fight joshua in the uk , didnt he say he did not care how much the purse wouod be ? Didn't he then ask for a contract which wws then drafted to him for a career highest purse of $15 million with another 5 million in top of that to face whyte in a location of wilders choosing. Don't throw **** at me because it will come back to you quicker and harder. Do you really want me to name all the battles your forefathers have lost to us so do not play those silly names sunshine lol Your lose

Is this a satirical post or some such? Am I too old to get it? This is memeing or whatever right? Children's bull**** yeah? Alright son I'll switch gears. I am not Italian. I am Puerto Rican. England had nothing to do with my history. I am from a Spanish colony. The most you can say to me is after the people who were not as into fairy accents, womens clothes, makeup, or being a servant to a monarch as your folks are from your nation that came here to speak like a man, wear man's clothes, serve no monarch, and worship how they please came here your people started playing second fiddle to them. Like you had a big ol' culture split your folks were on the losing side of. <----That photo is Rocky Marciano. See my pseudonym, sorry moniker, shoot that's probably rough vocabulary for you as well......my username is Marchegiano. As in Rocco Marchegiano. As in Rocky Marciano's real name because Marciano is a stage name for Americans who can't pronounce Marchegiano. Do you know the history of Cribb-Molineaux? Not only did the 1810s Americans beat the ever living **** out of the 1810s British on the battlefield so did the American champion beat the ever living **** out of the English champion. Battle for New Orleans? Someone needs to tell Horton about the battle for the bronze. Again, Spanish. If you were Spanish I might maybe feel inclined to defend something here but your not. You are just another arrogant Englishmen that thinks the world still revolves around the BE. Regardless of what you think of my opinion it is spectacular that you'd rather demonize me prior to learning anything about your own history. Tell me again how many times has an English champion called for a specific purse, got it, and refused to fight? Oh but having killed loads and loads of mainlander american natives is something youse like to remember and accredit to yourself? Seems like when England wins England remembers and when you don't it's conveniently lost or in this case suspect history. This is boxing son, you're meant to draw national lines. Doesn't mean you have to be a clueless **** when doing it. just to let you know another bit of history...we have had 12 wars with the french and spanish and jlost just 1 time lol...thats another but of clever info for you to absorb amigo. But yeah your right its boxing and it should be about boxing and that go's for you as well. And the queensbury rules which boxing is founded on was invented by us also. If you have an agenda don't try and place it on other posters.

We know he makes more than 20mil for a fight. No. You don't. It's just something Hearn claims. You have no idea what AJ is actually filing and you have no idea what he's actually making. Could AJ be making 20 million? Looking at the numbers, I think it's likely he is, but it's also likely Wilder is making 4-5 million. The problem is you're looking at Wilder's bogus deflated filed number and comparing it to Hearn's unverified claimed number, which is likely inflated. To only use the filed # of one fighter shows you're not discussing in good faith.

Wilder trans that are fans on life support

Please show us where Joshua filed a purse of 21 million. Thanks. he took a gaurantee of 20 home from Povetkin from the 26 million purse but thats only what's reported in the press and by far his highest. he earned like 20 from Parker after advertising and ppv revenue but the povetkin fight was his highest so far I think...

Wilder makes 1/10th of what AJ makes. How is 60-40 fair? :lol1: ok fine 65 -35 my point still makes the best business sense

2.4 million to 21 million goofball Please show us where Joshua filed a purse of 21 million. Thanks.

Please show us where Joshua filed a purse of 21 million. Thanks. We know he makes more than 20mil for a fight. We know that 'purses' are not disclosed in the UK. And we also know AJ does between 800k-1.4million PPVs a fight. We know he owns the show and pays Matchroom 20%. Wilder's purse is known. We know his gates barely crack seven figures. We know his viewing figures are similar to what AJs are on PPV. No one, including you, knows what either guy makes for certain, but a good estimation is Wilder makes 1/10th of what AJ makes.

Well him and Hearn are the reason the Povetkin fight happened to begin with..They dont really wanna fight Wilder right now and its pretty clear Had nothing to do with Shelley and Wilder saying "we have our notes, we'll get back next week" knowing the WBA wanted to call a madatory after 7 extensions. Fact is, Shelley wanted a better deal and regretted accepting the 15 mil and stated diverting. If he wanted that fight, they would have signed the agreement they accepted. They made a play. just see it and accept it.

yes 70 - 30 and if it dose good 50-50 right now if they make a deal it should be 60 40 in Aj favor Wilder makes 1/10th of what AJ makes. How is 60-40 fair? :lol1:

While I agree with this sentiment, there were a number of posters on here calling AJ a coward and a ducker when was preparing to fight Povetkin, I dont remember you defending AJ back then... Well him and Hearn are the reason the Povetkin fight happened to begin with..They dont really wanna fight Wilder right now and its pretty clear

The man has a huge fight coming up, why cant Hearn wait until after the damn fight man?? How can ya'll ignore common sense? While I agree with this sentiment, there were a number of posters on here calling AJ a coward and a ducker when was preparing to fight Povetkin, I dont remember you defending AJ back then...

So if it flunks he should get less, right? yes 70 - 30 and if it dose good 50-50 right now if they make a deal it should be 60 40 in Aj favor

not a Wilder fan and never said AJ was ducking just showing you both guy will be leaving money on the table if a deal is made now why is it a good idea time to make a deal If Aj can get a bigger share if the PPv dose bad If the PPv dose good wilder should get a bigger share So if it flunks he should get less, right?