Dillian Whyte tells Ortiz to scap thought of fighting on a under card, tells Ortiz to man up and accept to fight him Dec 22 headlining O2 arena PPV instead of Chisora. Whyte said he will get Hearn to send Ortiz a contract.
Hearn knew that Wilder vs Breazeale was set to happen this year
No, he didn't. He was lying. He claimed it was already a done deal for September. He made that up.
It was known since November 2018 that Breazeale was the mandatory. If I knew that in November 2018 and posted it multiple times here at the time, there's no excuse for Hearn not knowing. Especially when Whyte was complaining about it in November 2018, so Whyte was clearly aware too.
You said Whyte was up for the title shot until he heard it was Ortiz.
That was factually incorrect and a made up lie. :lol1:
He knows it's a lie. Hearn and Whyte both made it clear they would have no problem fighting Ortiz in a bona fide final eliminitor:
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/958550/Deontay-Wilder-Dillian-Whyte-Luis-Ortiz-boxing-news-bad-way-fight-WBC
"Dillian Whyte vows to leave Luis Ortiz in ‘a bad way’ to force title clash"
"Whyte was ordered to face 39-year-old Cuban Ortiz to decide the “second mandatory” to Wilder’s title, despite being ranked No 1 in the division by the governing body.
But Whyte said he would be willing to step up and take the fight – if he was guaranteed a shot at Wilder in the Bronze Bomber’s next fight."
"But like I say, if Ortiz wants it, he can have it. But only if Deontay Wilder agrees to fight me next and nobody else. I’ll fight Luis Ortiz and I’ll run through him" Dillian Whyte.
https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-how-wbc-order-whyte-ortiz-wilder-breazeale-next--127553
"Hearn: How Did WBC Order Whyte-Ortiz, Wilder-Breazeale Next?"
"Hearn had hoped the WBC would’ve declared Whyte the mandatory challenger for Wilder’s title. But Hearn also knows Whyte-Ortiz is a marketable matchup in the United Kingdom, where Whyte draws good crowds and television ratings, and the winner would become the mandatory contender for Wilder’s title.
Then Hearn read two words he truly couldn’t comprehend – second mandatory – as in Whyte and Ortiz would fight to become Wilder’s second mandatory challenger. That meant, as best as Hearn could determine, that there suddenly was a first mandatory challenger for Wilder’s title.
Hearn would’ve understood if the WBC simply would’ve allowed Wilder (40-0, 39 KOs) to make a voluntary defense against Breazeale because he satisfied his mandatory obligation by destroying Stiverne (25-3-1, 21 KOs) just 5½ months ago. He also understands the WBC wanting Whyte to earn his mandatory position, even against the recently-beaten Ortiz (28-1, 24 KOs, 2 NC)."
“We have no problem taking that fight, which is high-risk, if the reward’s there. And the reward is that you are the mandatory for Deontay Wilder. We’re not the second mandatory a guy who’s just been made mandatory for no reason. So what I’m saying is, no problem, Wilder against Breazeale, do your thing in a fight no one gives a damn about. Right? But allow Ortiz against Whyte to be a final eliminator for the mandatory for the winner of Breazeale against Wilder.” Eddie Hearn.
He asked for a final eliminator, knowing Breazeale was the existing mandatory. His promoter was publicly claiming a contract was already signed for Breazeale to get his title shot in September. I'm sure Whyte was hoping to fight a low level contender to become the next mandatory for 2019.
He only pulled out when Ortiz accepted the fight. Just like he pulled out of the IBF final eliminator when Pulev won the bid. This year alone, Whyte has pulled out of multiple final eliminators from the WBC and IBF.
Hearn knew that Wilder vs Breazeale was set to happen this year, and it would have happened, if the opportunity to cherry pick a ring rusty Tyson Fury hadn't popped up out of nowhere.
But Wilder vs Breazeale wasn't a mandated fight. If it was, then Wilder would be fighting Breazeale next, not Fury.
Hearn and Dillian's position was .. if Wilder owes Breazeale a title shot, then fine, let him fight Breazeale, and Whyte and Ortiz can then fight each other in a final eliminator for the winner.
But if Wilder/Breazeale is turned into a mandatory defence, then the winner of Whyte/Ortiz would have to wait at least another year before the WBC order another mando. And in that case, Whyte be better off going in another direction to get a title shot.
Hearn and Whyte both made it crystal clear that if Whyte vs Ortiz was a proper, regular, final eliminator they would be happy to take it.
But they weren't interested in participating in any "final eliminator for the position of second mandatory" bull****.
You know that .. so stop fckn lying about it!
If anything you quoted had been made up, you would have pointed it out. The problem for you is that everything I wrote is 100% correct.
You said Whyte was up for the title shot until he heard it was Ortiz.
That was factually incorrect and a made up lie. :lol1:
And did he accept an offer to fight for the postion of second mando, then pull out when he was told it would be against Ortiz?
Or did you lie about that?
He asked for a final eliminator, knowing Breazeale was the existing mandatory. His promoter was publicly claiming a contract was already signed for Breazeale to get his title shot in September. I'm sure Whyte was hoping to fight a low level contender to become the next mandatory for 2019.
He only pulled out when Ortiz accepted the fight. Just like he pulled out of the IBF final eliminator when Pulev won the bid. This year alone, Whyte has pulled out of multiple final eliminators from the WBC and IBF.
You said Whyte agreed to fight an eliminator for second mando position, then pulled out when he was told Ortiz would be the opponent.
And I'm saying that's a lie.
And I'm asking you which part. And you're refusing to answer. Are you saying he didn't agree to a final eliminator? Because it's public knowledge he did. Are you saying he wasn't aware there was an existing mandatory? Because it's public knowledge he was. Are you saying he agreed to face Ortiz? Because it's public knowledge he didn't. Which part are you saying isn't true?
The part where you said Whyte agreed to fight for the second mando position, then pulled out when he was told Ortiz would be the opponent.
That part.
I'm saying it never happened and you are a liar.
And I'm asking you which part. And you're refusing to answer. Are you saying he didn't agree to a final eliminator? Because it's public knowledge he did. Are you saying he wasn't aware there was an existing mandatory? Because it's public knowledge he was. Are you saying he agreed to face Ortiz? Because it's public knowledge he didn't. Which part are you saying isn't true?
Whyte asked the WBC to order a final eliminator, so they did.
And did he accept an offer to fight for the postion of second mando, then pull out when he was told it would be against Ortiz?
Or did you lie about that?
You said Whyte agreed to fight an eliminator for second mando position, then pulled out when he was told Ortiz would be the opponent.
And I'm saying that's a lie.
And I'm asking you which part. And you're refusing to answer. Are you saying he didn't agree to a final eliminator? Because it's public knowledge he did. Are you saying he wasn't aware there was an existing mandatory? Because it's public knowledge he was. Are you saying he agreed to face Ortiz? Because it's public knowledge he didn't. Which part are you saying isn't true?
I would also like to know what eliminator you are saying he agreed to.
Whyte asked the WBC to order a final eliminator, so they did.
You keep saying it's a lie, but refuse to say which part you're claiming is a lie. Are you saying he never agreed to the eliminator? Because it's public knowledge that he did. Are you saying he didn't know Breazeale was an existing mandatory? Because it's public knowledge that he did.
You said Whyte agreed to fight an eliminator for second mando position, then pulled out when he was told Ortiz would be the opponent.
And I'm saying that's a lie.
I would also like to know what eliminator you are saying he agreed to.
If Whyte really wanted to fight Wilder he would fight Ortiz on Wilder's undercard as the co-main. That's how you build up for the Wilder fight. But of course he wants Ortiz to go to the UK where nobody in America will watch it and won't know who Whyte is and therefore won't care if Wilder fights him.
Yeah .. fight each other on an undercard for peanuts instead of headling a PPV for $millions!
Great idea!
You said Whyte accepted a final eliminator for the second mando position, then pulled out when he was told Ortiz would be the opponent.
That's a lie.
You keep saying it's a lie, but refuse to say which part you're claiming is a lie. Are you saying he never agreed to the eliminator? Because it's public knowledge that he did. Are you saying he didn't know Breazeale was an existing mandatory? Because it's public knowledge that he did.
You can say it's a lie all you want, but you're wrong. There's an article on boxingscene from last year with Whyte complaining about Breazeale being the mandatory. So you can't then claim a year later that he wasn't aware Breazeale was mandatory when he accepted the final eliminator. Your position makes no sense whatsoever.
Stop trying to change the subject.
You said Whyte accepted a final eliminator for the second mando position, then pulled out when he was told Ortiz would be the opponent.
That's a lie.
You said there that Whyte accepted a final eliminator, knowing it was for the second mandatory position, then pulled out when he was told Ortiz would be the opponent.
I'm saying that's a lie.
You can say it's a lie all you want, but you're wrong. There's an article on boxingscene from last year with Whyte complaining about Breazeale being the mandatory. So you can't then claim a year later that he wasn't aware Breazeale was mandatory when he accepted the final eliminator. Your position makes no sense whatsoever.
You forgot to mention that Whyte knew that when he accepted the final eliminator and only pulled out once he found out King Kong would be the opponent.
Are you suggesting that Whyte agreed to fight a final eliminator, knowing it was for the position of second mandatory, after Breazeale, then pulled out when he was told the opponent would be Ortiz?
That is exactly what happened.
Stop deflecting and trying to change the subject.
You said there that Whyte accepted a final eliminator, knowing it was for the second mandatory position, then pulled out when he was told Ortiz would be the opponent.
I'm saying that's a lie.
I'll believe it when Ortiz gets a contract. Whyte making a statement means nothing.
I hope it happens because after Whyte loses that will end all of the talking.
You make **** up all the time
If anything you quoted had been made up, you would have pointed it out. The problem for you is that everything I wrote is 100% correct.
this is a lie.
Whyte said yes if it was for a guaranteed next shot at Wilder.
You lie every single day.
I know this WBC guy or whatever he is - Totally full of **** simple.