Comments Thread For: Warren: If Fury Wins, It's Clear Team Joshua Won't Fancy Him

'These two don’t need to start throwing tables or shouting abuse at each other to sell this fight' This guy probably got a photo of Hearn and throws darts at it every night.

I'm knowledgeable enough, its just that I get irritated from trolls that pretend to know a lot. Some trolls go back to threads 3 years old and comment on them to give the illusion they are smart. like the finkel thread. Sound familiar? Some trolls also like to be the center of attention also, coming up with stupid analogies. It's not your job to try to dissect the personalities of every poster. No one cares what you think. Hold on you are not making any sense I feared you would respond just to reply. What is the point of always being the first to give your opinion when your opinion is challenged you want to go in full defence mode and now start calling me a troll or dissecting your personality. Lol. You said Wilder is in charge of his career and you sent an article to prove he was never scared that article was also 3 years ago you plonker.I simply sent you an article from his own manager where to anyone that is unbiased there is contradiction at the very least. You were boastful in your assertion even mocking a fellow boxer to substantiate your point. What do you have to say for yourself?? Is Winkel lying or Deontay ?? They can’t both be right, they are saying different things. You rant and moan like a woman everyday talking about you are not sure what the rematch conditions between wilder and fury are. Is Winkel and Warren in a hurry to clarify? No but you like to open that trap everyday talking that negative nonsense. When your boy is questioned you play ignorance and now say you don’t care about the fight because Wilder has agreed to fight 2x with a out of shape lineal champion. 1 fight is perfect a great move hats of to him but 2 fights. Let me guess he agreed to fight Fury fight because Joshua is scared. I don’t have a problem with you or anyone but your tunnel vision makes you look stupid which I know you are not. I am also under no illusion we have a lot to be blamed for the fight not happening yet but you thinking Winkel is mother Theresa is amusing

Out of all the wilderlites you are a mystery to me because at times you come across as somewhat knowledgeable and most times you sound like a absolute buffoon. You are like a race horse with blinkers on. A loose horse with no jockey on your back and is just galloping down the track getting in the way. Deontay Wilder is his own boss and he tells his 3 managers his game plan. He chose all his opponents and you know first hand that he is because?? Him and his manager are obviously in sync. Now I want you to read but don’t just read with the intent to reply really try and understand what is being said. Now I will take the insults on the chin if it means I’m teaching someone to be objective instead of ignorant and naive. I still believe you won’t grasp it but nevertheless I must try https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-not-rushed-klitschko-says-finkel--86714 https://www.skysports.com/klitschko-vs-fury/news/33470/9994419/wladimir-klitschko-urges-deontay-wilder-to-start-facing-sterner-opposition I'm knowledgeable enough, its just that I get irritated from trolls that pretend to know a lot. Some trolls go back to threads 3 years old and comment on them to give the illusion they are smart. like the finkel thread. Sound familiar? Some trolls also like to be the center of attention also, coming up with stupid analogies. It's not your job to try to dissect the personalities of every poster. No one cares what you think.

you a ***** n*gga shut your mouth. N take wilders dick out your mouth ****** Fuc* you hoe.. and put AJ'S dic back in yo mouth and shut it. Before I fly to the U.K and put my American sausage in yo girlfriends english mcmuffin! Make her leave yo ass.. She tired of fu cking you with a strap on anyways! Lol

Whoever comes out on top of this mega interesting and even money fight comes out of the heavyweight situation sitting pretty. Hearn still thinks(hopes !) this fight won't happen that is probably based on the fact Edward is/was sending his silly old man to a token meet with Finkel when he has already, stupidly gone public with his views that the Wilder/Joshua fight shouldn't happen for another two years ....ffs.......Finkels response .....don't waste your airfare. I had enough of Barry Hearn finding old men and Mexican road sweepers for Eubank Sr. when there was the likes of Mike MacCallum and James Toney out there at the weight .Barry Hearn never mentioned their names but the mugs still brought tickets for his fights so for him and the boxer that's good ......for the fans except the complete idiots it's not! Hearn wanting Wilder to commit to an April fight now is just another smoke screen ,when anything could happen in December is just the last sure sign that Hearn will only take the risk of A.J. getting popped if he can have that MEGA money fight by giving Wilder next to nothing with as many rematch clauses as possible. Look to Joshua to fight average Whyte again ,Ortiz ,Fury,Wilder they all do a job and A.J. .......I just wish he'd prove me wrong!

Ok.. AJ would have been ko'd by Ortiz.. an secondly.. u act like Wilder asked for extra time.. Ortiz is the second best hw out there stupid troll! The ref gave him extra time.. so Wilder recovered? It was the 7th rd idiot.. Ortiz had 8, 9, 10,.. to finish the job if he was able.. Wilder did.. period. End of story. you a ***** n*gga shut your mouth. N take wilders dick out your mouth ******

Okay I get tired of hearing about AJs amazing resume. Parker is not that good. He has great footwork and a nice defensive style but come on Son. Wilder would KO him. If Whyte can catch him Wilder would BOMB HIM. Whyte is only great to the UK. He literally did EVERYTHING he could NOT to fight Ortiz and you guys talk about him like he is Lennox Lewis Jr. Now I really don't understand how you keep saying Wilder ducked Pov when they had a title scheduled IN RUSSIA!!! Pov failed his drug test and yet somehow that's Deontay's fault. Uhhhhh okay. Now I do give AJ points for beating Wlad but you guys seem to just skip the fact he was a 40 year old Man coming off a layoff and a LOSS. HIS HEART WAS NOT INTO BOXING ANYMORE HENCE HIS RETIREMENT SOON AFTERWARDS. You can say what you want but you CANNOT say that AJ laid out the terms HE WANTED FOR THE FIGHT AND DEONTAY DID NOT AGREED TO THEM ALL. Let me REITERATE. HE AGREED TO THEM ALL. AJ still fought someone else and only after Deontay shocked him by making a BIGGER fight then AJs (coming on now only TRUE BOXING FANS cared about that fight) did he start saying he wants a fight with Wilder. Oh and now it's we need to have your side done and SIGNED before your fight in December because somehow it would be impossible to agree to terms in 4 months before April. Yeah okay. Here is the TRUTH. AJ was really playing the I'm the A Side card too hard and too early because as of right now NO HEAVYWEIGHT IS THE A SIDE. Seriously. The fight between the two would have actually made the UNDISPUTED A SIDE. See right now the casual fans and US don't even slightly care about AJ and the U.K. and European fans basically feel the same about Wilder. You throw in Fury and honestly NO ONE CAN LEGITIMATELY SAY THEY ARE THE TRUE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMP. Now don't get Me wrong AJ did have the leverage that's why he dictated the terms but he pushed and pushed until it was TOO MUCH and like an Ex who realized they shouldn't have cheated now wants everything to be the same. HELL NAW. Deontay agreed to the terms. You switched on them. So now forget it. I want better ones. I am not going to KEEP taking a bad deal because you are BORED. NOPE AJ took a risk now he looks Dumb and like a coward and now he's stuck fighting Whyte in a fight Dillian's Mom VOTED AGAINST while Wilder has the potential to bag out with a Fury triology! LOL So much drivel in your post that I could pick apart. However the fact you deny AJ is the A side in negotiations sums up your lack of knowledge and tells me everything I need to know. Boxing is a numbers game and the numbers AJ bring in blow Wilder out of the park.

Okay I get tired of hearing about AJs amazing resume. Parker is not that good. He has great footwork and a nice defensive style but come on Son. Wilder would KO him. If Whyte can catch him Wilder would BOMB HIM. Whyte is only great to the UK. He literally did EVERYTHING he could NOT to fight Ortiz and you guys talk about him like he is Lennox Lewis Jr. Now I really don't understand how you keep saying Wilder ducked Pov when they had a title scheduled IN RUSSIA!!! Pov failed his drug test and yet somehow that's Deontay's fault. Uhhhhh okay. Now I do give AJ points for beating Wlad but you guys seem to just skip the fact he was a 40 year old Man coming off a layoff and a LOSS. HIS HEART WAS NOT INTO BOXING ANYMORE HENCE HIS RETIREMENT SOON AFTERWARDS. You can say what you want but you CANNOT say that AJ laid out the terms HE WANTED FOR THE FIGHT AND DEONTAY DID NOT AGREED TO THEM ALL. Let me REITERATE. HE AGREED TO THEM ALL. AJ still fought someone else and only after Deontay shocked him by making a BIGGER fight then AJs (coming on now only TRUE BOXING FANS cared about that fight) did he start saying he wants a fight with Wilder. Oh and now it's we need to have your side done and SIGNED before your fight in December because somehow it would be impossible to agree to terms in 4 months before April. Yeah okay. Here is the TRUTH. AJ was really playing the I'm the A Side card too hard and too early because as of right now NO HEAVYWEIGHT IS THE A SIDE. Seriously. The fight between the two would have actually made the UNDISPUTED A SIDE. See right now the casual fans and US don't even slightly care about AJ and the U.K. and European fans basically feel the same about Wilder. You throw in Fury and honestly NO ONE CAN LEGITIMATELY SAY THEY ARE THE TRUE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMP. Now don't get Me wrong AJ did have the leverage that's why he dictated the terms but he pushed and pushed until it was TOO MUCH and like an Ex who realized they shouldn't have cheated now wants everything to be the same. HELL NAW. Deontay agreed to the terms. You switched on them. So now forget it. I want better ones. I am not going to KEEP taking a bad deal because you are BORED. NOPE AJ took a risk now he looks Dumb and like a coward and now he's stuck fighting Whyte in a fight Dillian's Mom VOTED AGAINST while Wilder has the potential to bag out with a Fury triology! LOL

Look at the resume of both Wilder and AJ and how many fights they both have. Then ask yourself who is likely to be ducking out of tough fights? AJ ducks nobody he has proved that. However he is a businessman and has smart people around him and will only pay what his opponents deserve. When he is bringing most of the money and most of the belts, that needs to be reflected in the split or no deal, it's as simple as that. When Wilder of Fury are the man in the division then they can be the A side in negotiations. However they need to grow balls and beat the man to be the man. I agree , though I don’t think anyone is scared of anyone. They are professional boxers they just want to get paid

How can one of Wilder's co-managers say something if Wilder does not agree? Wow you are really new to boxing aren't you. Maybe Hearn and AJ are linked like that. Wilder calls his own shots, unlike the puppet AJ. Out of all the wilderlites you are a mystery to me because at times you come across as somewhat knowledgeable and most times you sound like a absolute buffoon. You are like a race horse with blinkers on. A loose horse with no jockey on your back and is just galloping down the track getting in the way. Deontay Wilder is his own boss and he tells his 3 managers his game plan. He chose all his opponents and you know first hand that he is because?? Him and his manager are obviously in sync. Now I want you to read but don’t just read with the intent to reply really try and understand what is being said. Now I will take the insults on the chin if it means I’m teaching someone to be objective instead of ignorant and naive. I still believe you won’t grasp it but nevertheless I must try https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-not-rushed-klitschko-says-finkel--86714 https://www.skysports.com/klitschko-vs-fury/news/33470/9994419/wladimir-klitschko-urges-deontay-wilder-to-start-facing-sterner-opposition

He was scheduled to face Fury let’s not get carried away now. It’s easy to talk when your opponent has an upcoming fight . However when it’s negotiation time a lot of procrastination takes place. A few months prior Winkel was saying Wilder was a pup a prospect it is too early. How can a manager say such a thing if his boxer does not agree.? Wilder spoke these words months later he obviously had a change of heart or that the fight will not be happening for the foreseeable future How can one of Wilder's co-managers say something if Wilder does not agree? Wow you are really new to boxing aren't you. Maybe Hearn and AJ are linked like that. Wilder calls his own shots, unlike the puppet AJ.

Wilder was never offered the fight. He said he would have taken it regardless of what Finkle's opinion was. Wlad told Wiler he haf to wait. https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkatzowitz/2015/11/10/deontay-wilder-i-could-beat-wladimir-klitschko-tomorrow/#7f89d5311fea He was scheduled to face Fury let’s not get carried away now. It’s easy to talk when your opponent has an upcoming fight . However when it’s negotiation time a lot of procrastination takes place. A few months prior Winkel was saying Wilder was a pup a prospect it is too early. How can a manager say such a thing if his boxer does not agree.? Wilder spoke these words months later he obviously had a change of heart or that the fight will not be happening for the foreseeable future

Look at the resume of both Wilder and AJ and how many fights they both have. Then ask yourself who is likely to be ducking out of tough fights? AJ ducks nobody he has proved that. However he is a businessman and has smart people around him and will only pay what his opponents deserve. When he is bringing most of the money and most of the belts, that needs to be reflected in the split or no deal, it's as simple as that. When Wilder of Fury are the man in the division then they can be the A side in negotiations. However they need to grow balls and beat the man to be the man.

Josh doesn't duck. He just tries working out like an accountant how much your worth. If fury beats wilder make it 50 50 and in april

Err Parker , Whyte and Brezeale are all in the current top 10 over 5'4 and under 40. Wilder on the other hand hasn't. Wilder fans always making stuff up for 40 fights now according to them Wilder fought Ali in his first fight and Mike Tyson in his 20th go look at boxrec you'll be disappointed. The truth is both Wilder and AJ had a great chance to unify with Klitschko , AJ took it , Finkel literally said no way Wilder is a baby heavyweight and not ready and you can't deny it .. Wilders team aren't. Wilder was never offered the fight. He said he would have taken it regardless of what Finkle's opinion was. Wlad told Wiler he haf to wait. https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkatzowitz/2015/11/10/deontay-wilder-i-could-beat-wladimir-klitschko-tomorrow/#7f89d5311fea

Joshua will have to face the winner after the rematch.....Lololololol .... let’s say Wilder wins the first fight then loses the rematch so it’s 1-1 then what?. Let me just say this you are given a fighter who has been out of the ring for 3 years an opportunity to rematch a champion ? Meanwhile whilst you are contesting the fight the other unified champion is scared?...... I do not blame Wilder taking this fight in Dec1st he will be lineal champion but I don’t understand the rematch( I do if he lost) However , the second fight makes no sense when you have a bigger fish to fry but you will lap up any move team Wilder does as a master stroke. Explain the logic if you are really after becoming undisputed We don't know the details of their contract as far as re-match clauses. It's foolish to speculate based on that. Wilder was hoping for bigger fish to fry but Joshua turned the big offer down. After accepting a flat fee offer they still wouldn't fight this year, coming up with the Povetkin bs. I've stated before I don't care if they ever fight, and doubt if they fight next year. Actions speak louder than words, and both Hearn and Joshua are steadily losing credibility.

Wilder's team and Frank Warren if Tyson Fury beats Wilder are trying to milk the hearns because they know AJ wants all the belts so give us 50/50.

Joshua will have to face the winner after they do the rematch or whatever. Too much pressure not to. I don't expect it to happen in 2019 though. Hearn will keep moving the goalposts, putting up roadblocks to put it off. I think AJ will fight Whyte in the spring, maybe Usyk in the fall. He'll stay away from Ortiz, and fight Wilder or Fury in the spring of 2020. Maybe around 2025 he will fight Ortiz. Joshua will have to face the winner after the rematch.....Lololololol .... let’s say Wilder wins the first fight then loses the rematch so it’s 1-1 then what?. Let me just say this you are given a fighter who has been out of the ring for 3 years an opportunity to rematch a champion ? Meanwhile whilst you are contesting the fight the other unified champion is scared?...... I do not blame Wilder taking this fight in Dec1st he will be lineal champion but I don’t understand the rematch( I do if he lost) However , the second fight makes no sense when you have a bigger fish to fry but you will lap up any move team Wilder does as a master stroke. Explain the logic if you are really after becoming undisputed

Team Joshua fancies neither. That’s why they’ve been trying to prevent the fight from happening. Rexy , straight out of the gate with his opinion. Wanted to be the first individual to post and his voice heard. Rexy a devout Wilder freedom fighter since March 2018

Err Parker , Whyte and Brezeale are all in the current top 10 over 5'4 and under 40. Wilder on the other hand hasn't. Wilder fans always making stuff up for 40 fights now according to them Wilder fought Ali in his first fight and Mike Tyson in his 20th go look at boxrec you'll be disappointed. The truth is both Wilder and AJ had a great chance to unify with Klitschko , AJ took it , Finkel literally said no way Wilder is a baby heavyweight and not ready and you can't deny it .. Wilders team aren't. Team Joshua won't face anyone who's either under 40 years of age or under 5ft4 :)