Joshua V Wilder: What do YOU think would be fair?

You do nothing but smear Hearn. All you talk about mostly, is Hearn. No other promoter gets that kind of attention from you. So if you want to try and make out you like him and ****, you have a very warped way of showing it. I don't consider it a smear to say that Hearn is full of ****. He's a promoter. He's supposed to be full of ****. That's his job. My job on this site is to post the truth. Hearn is the promoter I post about the most because Hearn is the promoter posted about by others the most. I'd be happy to talk about Dibella, King, Arum, Muhammad, Shaw, Kushner, Goosen or anybody else you want.

I have no reason to smear Hearn. I admire him greatly. He's a brilliant promoter and may go down as one of the best of all time. Like all great promoters, he's full of ****, but that's not an insult. That's part of the job. He's done an amazing job with AJ. He's done an amazing job with Whyte. Duco pushing the protest hard would hurt AJ vs Whyte. Hearn, as an extremely intelligent and talented business man did the right thing by getting Duco to drop it ASAP. If you're under the impression that promoters are honorable people, I could understand why you would consider it a smear. Promoters are professional liars, so when there's no greater compliment I could give Hearn than praise his lying and manipulation skills. I'm a Hearn fan. I like him personally. I got to finally spend some time with him recently and he did not disappoint. He's probably my favorite promoter in the game right now. Have absolutely nothing against him. And with him holding DAZN's fate in his hands, and with me relying on DAZN to continue to broadcast my company's fights, nobody on the planet is rooting for Hearn more than I am. You do nothing but smear Hearn. All you talk about mostly, is Hearn. No other promoter gets that kind of attention from you. So if you want to try and make out you like him and ****, you have a very warped way of showing it.

As I say, your word means less than nothing. You would say anything to smear Hearn. I have no reason to smear Hearn. I admire him greatly. He's a brilliant promoter and may go down as one of the best of all time. Like all great promoters, he's full of ****, but that's not an insult. That's part of the job. He's done an amazing job with AJ. He's done an amazing job with Whyte. Duco pushing the protest hard would hurt AJ vs Whyte. Hearn, as an extremely intelligent and talented business man did the right thing by getting Duco to drop it ASAP. If you're under the impression that promoters are honorable people, I could understand why you would consider it a smear. Promoters are professional liars, so when there's no greater compliment I could give Hearn than praise his lying and manipulation skills. I'm a Hearn fan. I like him personally. I got to finally spend some time with him recently and he did not disappoint. He's probably my favorite promoter in the game right now. Have absolutely nothing against him. And with him holding DAZN's fate in his hands, and with me relying on DAZN to continue to broadcast my company's fights, nobody on the planet is rooting for Hearn more than I am.

Then there's really nothing to discuss. I post information that I'm able to obtain due to relationships and contacts I've developed over two decades of working in combat sports. If you think I'm a liar and not as connected as I claim, you are free to ignore my posts. I'm not going to post any documents that would compromise those relationships or put my friends in professional jeopardy. Find me a round where Whyte didn't do it. You can't. I have no need to minimize Whyte's win. I have no bias towards Whyte or Parker. It was an entertaining fight that I enjoyed very much, one of the reasons I watched it multiple times. But it's a fact it would have been ruled a draw if the headbutt was correctly called by the ref. If Parker had been given credit for a knockdown that was actually a headbutt, I'd be making the same complaint. My only allegiance is to the truth. I don't care about any of these fighters. As I say, your word means less than nothing. You would say anything to smear Hearn. So no, I don't believe you. You could say anything you wanted about anyone and call it your "Inside knowledge" without having to back anything up. To me, you're just an idiot on a forum. So please refrain from any comments without evidence to back it up with. You couldn't even back it up when you claimed Hearn was a liar. All you gave was a load of nonsense. This is just more of your nonsense.

Show me the proof. Your word means less than nothing. Then there's really nothing to discuss. I post information that I'm able to obtain due to relationships and contacts I've developed over two decades of working in combat sports. If you think I'm a liar and not as connected as I claim, you are free to ignore my posts. I'm not going to post any documents that would compromise those relationships or put my friends in professional jeopardy. I'm not watching the fight again. You're exaggerating like you always do. That I know. But even if Whyte did 1 thing in every round, that still isn't something to cry about. You just want to downplay the win. It's your job to do ****ty things like that. Find me a round where Whyte didn't do it. You can't. I have no need to minimize Whyte's win. I have no bias towards Whyte or Parker. It was an entertaining fight that I enjoyed very much, one of the reasons I watched it multiple times. But it's a fact it would have been ruled a draw if the headbutt was correctly called by the ref. If Parker had been given credit for a knockdown that was actually a headbutt, I'd be making the same complaint. My only allegiance is to the truth. I don't care about any of these fighters.

It's not a smear. It's fact. Parker threatened protest and Hearn cut a deal to get Duco to drop it. If you want to know how I know, you can ask me. I was told so by Duco and shown an email from Eddie. Name the rounds he doesn't do it. Show me the proof. Your word means less than nothing. I'm not watching the fight again. You're exaggerating like you always do. That I know. But even if Whyte did 1 thing in every round, that still isn't something to cry about. You just want to downplay the win. It's your job to do ****ty things like that.

Do you have any proof for your smear on Hearn paying Parker off? It's not a smear. It's fact. Parker threatened protest and Hearn cut a deal to get Duco to drop it. If you want to know how I know, you can ask me. I was told so by Duco and shown an email from Eddie. Yeah, I've watched the fight a few times. And you're exaggerating like you do most of the time. Name the rounds he doesn't do it.

Of course it won't. Hearn paid Parker to drop the protest. Doesn't change the fact that the fight should be changed to a draw since Whyte only won due to a headbutt being mistakenly ruled a knockdown. Did you watch the fight? It was constant all night long. Do you have any proof for your smear on Hearn paying Parker off? Didn't think so. Just you being "Unbiased" again isn't it? You're a joke, man. Yeah, I've watched the fight a few times. And you're exaggerating like you do most of the time.

The result won't be changed. Haha. Of course it won't. Hearn paid Parker to drop the protest. Doesn't change the fact that the fight should be changed to a draw since Whyte only won due to a headbutt being mistakenly ruled a knockdown. Whyte did it in every round? No he didn't. Stop exaggerating all the time.. Did you watch the fight? It was constant all night long.

Man you said Whyte had a better win/resume in Parker than Ortiz is best win in Jennings. The guy then says Ortiz is better than Parker completely ducks the fact that Parker is better than Jennings and therefore Whyte is more proven through resumes. Not to mention ranked 1 below Wilder by the WBC as no1 Challenger or whatever and above both Fury and Ortiz. Why you giving this fool the time of day? Yeah, I really should ignore him. But I like to **** with him.

If, if and more if's. The fact is, Whyte beat him. The clash of heads was accidental. Don't try and make out it was something different. Your clear spite won't change that. The fight didn't last 30 seconds more so it matters not. Then it would have been a robbery if it was scored in another country and the decision went to Parker. Even Parker and his whole team knew he lost. Fighters get a bit rough in there sometimes with a little bit of hitting in the clinch. It happens. Stop crying about it and making it into something it isn't. Parker was rated higher than Ortiz before the Whyte fight. But due to Parker losing two fights on the bounce, he's now ranked lower than Ortiz. He shouldn't, because Parker has been in there with much better fighters and won some of them. Ortiz has done nothing. If you want to believe a secondary mandatory to the WBC title and a fight that won't happen for 2 years is fighting for something, then knock yourself out. But we both really know it's worthless. Just look at the situation going on with Oquendo. That's how much worth it actually has. Man you said Whyte had a better win/resume in Parker than Ortiz is best win in Jennings. The guy then says Ortiz is better than Parker completely ducks the fact that Parker is better than Jennings and therefore Whyte is more proven through resumes. Not to mention ranked 1 below Wilder by the WBC as no1 Challenger or whatever and above both Fury and Ortiz. Why you giving this fool the time of day?

Seriously, I'm starting to think that you are slow or something. Wilder has fought all bums outside of the first Stiverne fight and Ortiz. And he isn't "stepping up" to fight Fury, he's trying to catch him while he's down. Stop mentioning Ortiz (who was 39 and on heart medication) and start talking about Areolla, Washington and Szpilka. Wilder fought guys that were ranked in the 100's in the world regularly before he got a title shot. Then after he won, he fought guys ranked in the 30'sto 50's. That's why he gets no %. That's why he doesn't make much per fight and that's why he's an overrated, protected fraud who beats bums. If you saw a guy waling down the street hitting bums on the corner, would you be impressed??!?! No, you'd be annoyed and you would tell him to stop beating up bums. Same with Wilder He doesn't attempt to make coherent responses to yours or anyone's posts and always takes a little snippet not relevant to the point to get people bite. If this guys paid to post he's clearly going to be saying dumb sh**t all the time to get a response. He just needs to be ignored, no ones gonna pay him jack then. Spread the word ✊ .... Lol

The result won't be changed. Haha. Whyte did it in every round? No he didn't. Stop exaggerating all the time.. There were no ifs in the part you quoted. So yeah... please remind that fraud that if wilder had not gotten some home cooking and 30 seconds extra recovery time, he would have lost to ortiz.

Accidental or not, it wasn't a knockdown. The result should be changed to a draw. No no no, this was blatant and deliberate holding behind the head with one hand to keep the head in place for an uppercut. Whyte did it over and over in every round and a neutral official would have never allowed it. If if if if . . . The result won't be changed. Haha. Whyte did it in every round? No he didn't. Stop exaggerating all the time.. There were no ifs in the part you quoted. So yeah...

The clash of heads was accidental. Accidental or not, it wasn't a knockdown. The result should be changed to a draw. Fighters get a bit rough in there sometimes with a little bit of hitting in the clinch. It happens. No no no, this was blatant and deliberate holding behind the head with one hand to keep the head in place for an uppercut. Whyte did it over and over in every round and a neutral official would have never allowed it. Parker was rated higher than Ortiz before the Whyte fight. But due to Parker losing two fights on the bounce, he's now ranked lower than Ortiz. He shouldn't, because Parker has been in there with much better fighters and won some of them. Ortiz has done nothing. If if if if . . .

That would have been a draw if a blatant headbutt wasn't incorrectly ruled a knockdown. That would have been a knockout loss if the fight had gone 30 seconds longer. That likely would have been a decision loss if scored in another country and definitely would have been a decision loss if the British ref didn't let Whyte deliberately hold Parker behind the head to hold him in place to be hit over and over the entire fight. Thank you for your opinion. All of the world's leading experts have Ortiz rated above Parker. If you disagree, good for you. I don't argue opinions. That is still something at stake as opposed to absolutely nothing being at stake. So clearly Hearn considered Parker the safer fight. Thank you for your opinion. TBRB, ESPN, Ring, etc, disagree. I have no problem with you not having him in your top 5. Boxrec doesn't. On paper, if you want to argue Whyte has accomplished more, I have no issue with that. But Hearn, and everyone in the industry, considers Parker a safer opponent than Ortiz. There's no debate about that. If, if and more if's. The fact is, Whyte beat him. The clash of heads was accidental. Don't try and make out it was something different. Your clear spite won't change that. The fight didn't last 30 seconds more so it matters not. Then it would have been a robbery if it was scored in another country and the decision went to Parker. Even Parker and his whole team knew he lost. Fighters get a bit rough in there sometimes with a little bit of hitting in the clinch. It happens. Stop crying about it and making it into something it isn't. Parker was rated higher than Ortiz before the Whyte fight. But due to Parker losing two fights on the bounce, he's now ranked lower than Ortiz. He shouldn't, because Parker has been in there with much better fighters and won some of them. Ortiz has done nothing. If you want to believe a secondary mandatory to the WBC title and a fight that won't happen for 2 years is fighting for something, then knock yourself out. But we both really know it's worthless. Just look at the situation going on with Oquendo. That's how much worth it actually has.

Whyte has a win over Parker. That would have been a draw if a blatant headbutt wasn't incorrectly ruled a knockdown. That would have been a knockout loss if the fight had gone 30 seconds longer. That likely would have been a decision loss if scored in another country and definitely would have been a decision loss if the British ref didn't let Whyte deliberately hold Parker behind the head to hold him in place to be hit over and over the entire fight. That's miles better than anything Ortiz has done. Thank you for your opinion. All of the world's leading experts have Ortiz rated above Parker. If you disagree, good for you. I don't argue opinions. Nothing would be at stake against Ortiz either. Whyte would only become the second mandatory after Brezeale That is still something at stake as opposed to absolutely nothing being at stake. So clearly Hearn considered Parker the safer fight. Ortiz is ONE OF the best fighters at Heavyweight. But he isn't top 5. Thank you for your opinion. TBRB, ESPN, Ring, etc, disagree. I have no problem with you not having him in your top 5. Boxrec doesn't. On paper, if you want to argue Whyte has accomplished more, I have no issue with that. But Hearn, and everyone in the industry, considers Parker a safer opponent than Ortiz. There's no debate about that.

What Ortiz has actually done and what Whyte has actually done indicates that Ortiz would win. Clearly Hearn felt Parker was a safer fight, since he chose Parker with nothing at stake over Ortiz in a final eliminator. All of the world's leading experts consider Ortiz one of the best fighters in the world. You just don't like him because he lost to Wilder, so you have to pretend he's trash. Whyte has a win over Parker. That's miles better than anything Ortiz has done. Or are you so deranged that you're going to try and convince me Jennings is a better win? Nothing would be at stake against Ortiz either. Whyte would only become the second mandatory after Brezeale and would have to wait years to get Wilder in the ring. Wilder has even admitted he'll make Whyte wait for his shot. Ortiz is ONE OF the best fighters at Heavyweight. But he isn't top 5. He's done absolutely nothing to get him such a high ranking. Why would I dislike him for losing to Wilder? I don't think he's trash, he's actually a good fighter but he needs to prove it. His reputation is built on what people think he would do instead of what he actually has done. To get such a high ranking you've got to be a bit more than hype. Sorry.

You don't rank fighters by what you THINK they'll do, you go by what they actually have done. What Ortiz has actually done and what Whyte has actually done indicates that Ortiz would win. Clearly Hearn felt Parker was a safer fight, since he chose Parker with nothing at stake over Ortiz in a final eliminator. All of the world's leading experts consider Ortiz one of the best fighters in the world. You just don't like him because he lost to Wilder, so you have to pretend he's trash.