WHY can’t we get this fight?
Joshua vs Ortiz is a really good fight with promise of fireworks and a knockout!
Why aren’t U.K. fans of AJ fans clamoring for this?
Why aren’t boxing fans asking for this fight?
We all know Wilder is tied up with the lineal undefeated champ Fury so why not Luis Ortiz who has only lost once in a FOTY contender against Wilder an undefeated champ and is still a viable top contender!
He was the first to stop Brandon Jennings something Klitschko couldn’t do.
Stopped Cojanu, something former champ Joseph Parker couldn’t do.
Stopped David Allen, something Dillian Whyte couldn’t do.
This should be the fight happening on April 13th at Wembley, not a rematch where AJ only got rocked in a round and brutally stopped Whyte!
Let’s get it, Joshua vs Ortiz at Wembley on April 13th!
Wilder/Whyte could be next in the queue if only Whyte didn't run away from Luis Ortiz.
Open your eyes, Hearn is avoiding the risky fights for his guys.
what risky fights has wilder taken besides ortiz ?
Fluffed his opportunity if we are honest. When he signed with Hearn, he was put in with two fighters (English level, and out of shape, Dave Allen, and several times stopped Malik Scott) and he looked boring and uninspired in both.
Fair play to Wilder for taking Ortiz on when many wouldnt, but his situation was very different to AJ's is right now. Wilder needed a top fighter on his record at that point, desperately. Stiverne while well rated at the time of the first fight had done nothing since their fight, and it led to a bit of revisionism as to whether he was ever much good in the first place (imo, no). Wilder was unfortunate with Povetkin and Ortiz fights falling through, through no fault of his own, but didnt change the fact that he needed a top opponent to validate his career at that point. He couldnt afford to fight another pudding.
Joshua on the other hand got that validation through Klitschko, and fought a few other top 10/5 opponents as well. He doesnt need Ortiz like Wilder needed him.
It would be a good fight for what its worth, but I wouldnt like it to made in place of a fight with the Wilder vs Fury winner. Which is all anyone should be focussing on for April 13th. Anything else is just a distraction.
Wilder/Whyte could be next in the queue if only Whyte didn't run away from Luis Ortiz.
Open your eyes, Hearn is avoiding the risky fights for his guys.
Not true Wilders first mandatory hasn't even been called yet. So Whyte has to wait for that plus 2 years. Also he just fought Parker who most thought would beat Whyte easy and almost did beat him so how is that not risky? What more could they do than offer Wilder a career high payday of 8 mil to make it sooner?
Why do you hate matchroom fighters and not Wilder or Ortiz for not taking risky fights, who have they fought that you'd consider risky excluding eachother? It's like you forget Wilder has had 40 fights and 1 name.
Wilder/Whyte could be next in the queue if only Whyte didn't run away from Luis Ortiz.
Open your eyes, Hearn is avoiding the risky fights for his guys.
That's the problem. Whyte doesn't need "could be next" or "maybe next", he needs guarantee to wilder next.
Fighting Ortiz is not his problem as he know and believes he can defeat Ortiz but wilder took to his hills.
He wants the Ortiz slayer.
You should advocate for wilder/whyte. That's wilder fighting a live body not a HBP patient or a rehab patient.
Bro. Be wise.
Wilder/Whyte could be next in the queue if only Whyte didn't run away from Luis Ortiz.
Open your eyes, Hearn is avoiding the risky fights for his guys.
I would actually respect Joshua and Dillian Shyte if either one fought Ortiz next.
But of course we know they won't.
You should advocate for wilder/whyte. That's wilder fighting a live body not a HBP patient or a rehab patient.
Bro. Be wise.
I believe that he is deliberately holding the titles hostage by not challenging the best, most dangerous and riskiest opponents out there. He refuses to become the undisputed champion of the world.
In addition, it just goes to show that he has a lack of self-confidence and fear. Now as far as Luis Ortiz is concerned; He would've fared much better than the cherry pick Alexander Povetkin. Who was chosen only to avoid fighting Wilder.
He is bigger, stronger, punches harder, has a better defense, chin, reflexes and stamina. That's why Joshua is avoiding and ducking him.
For crying out loud, podvetkin was a mandatory which has to be fulfilled. Wilder has nothing fought any mandatory is almost 3yrs, so tell me who is holding the title hostage?
Wilder has been a champion for about 3yrs with 50mil in his pocket, he never made any attempt to be unified champ thereby holding the green belt r and some.
You keep exposing wilder and youself for every point you try to raise.
Why fight killer Ortiz when he can fight Whyte, Kownacki, or the Chinese guy. :lol1:
Lolx.... A prime Ortiz was fighting bums.... What makes him killer?
Wilder KO a HBP patient. That's all I can make up for the fight.
AJ will send him to retirement.
I don't think I have any other thing to say to you since you think the #1man in the sport has no balls to face a HBP patient, am done with you bro.
Do you think being #1 is by inheritance? The brother fought himself to that position you coward.I believe that he is deliberately holding the titles hostage by not challenging the best, most dangerous and riskiest opponents out there. He refuses to become the undisputed champion of the world.
In addition, it just goes to show that he has a lack of self-confidence and fear. Now as far as Luis Ortiz is concerned; He would've fared much better than the cherry pick Alexander Povetkin. Who was chosen only to avoid fighting Wilder.
He is bigger, stronger, punches harder, has a better defense, chin, reflexes and stamina. That's why Joshua is avoiding and ducking him.
We fights fans can only wish. That fight will never happen because it's too risky of a fight for Anthony Joshua. It's just your prototypical high risk/low reward fight.
Ortiz is just too exceptional for his own good but he's still relatively unknown which is of no fault of his own; Because he is and still remains the bogey man of the heavyweight division. Everybody is afraid of fighting this guy for the exception of Deontay Wilder.
Furthermore, he has no leverage or cards over AJ; In terms of titles or new fans in order to bring Joshua or even other contenders to the bargaining table.
Lolx... How funny you sound... If everybody has been avoiding him, who has he been fighting all these while? In his so called prime, who was he fighting?
How long was Ortiz was supposed to wait for his opportunity? That was the main reason why he signed with Matchroom in the first place to get his title shot at Joshua. He waited for Klitschko, then he was expected to wait for several more months after Joshua's IBF mandatory defense. I can't blame him for leaving Matchroom for an instant shot at the WBC title from the PBC.
So tell me, how long should breazeale wait to get a shot and long would whyte have waited if he had followed the wbc route?
He was AJ's mandatory for the WBA title; Don't you remember? Right after AJ fought and won his title belts against Wladimir Klitschko. He had an option to either defend his IBF title against Carlos Takam or defend his WBA title against Luis Ortiz instead; but yet he chose the former Carlos Takam. Which set up the Wilder WBC title shot because Joshua refused to challenge him at the time.
You don't have adequate knowledge of what you write.
Takam was a late replacement for pulev after he had injury prior before the fight.
It's no AJ's fault WBA removed Ortiz from their ranking.
I think AJ going Unification - Mandatory - Unification - Mandatory means he can't be criticised for his opponent selection. If not Wilder in April , then Whyte would get rid of the possible WBO mandatory (which they said they were going to call after the Povetkin fight) as he will also have Pulev / H Fury coming down the track.
AJ doesn't have the balls to ever step in the ring with Luis Ortiz. It's too risky. He just may get his ass whooped if he does.
I don't think I have any other thing to say to you since you think the #1man in the sport has no balls to face a HBP patient, am done with you bro.
Do you think being #1 is by inheritance? The brother fought himself to that position you coward.
Of course he has wilder and wilder fans to thank for making him this popular. Prior to the wilder fight, he was irrelevant to the sport. Wilder fans gave him the bogeyman that's is still helping his image at the moment.
A KO from AJ will but him out of business for real and he'z got family to feed.AJ doesn't have the balls to ever step in the ring with Luis Ortiz. It's too risky. He just may get his ass whooped if he does.
Yeah, I get it. It's the High risk/Low reward formula. May God bless and thank him for fighters like Deontay Wilder who actually took shorts in order to give this man Luis Ortiz an opportunity for a title shot.
Of course he has wilder and wilder fans to thank for making him this popular. Prior to the wilder fight, he was irrelevant to the sport. Wilder fans gave him the bogeyman that's is still helping his image at the moment.
A KO from AJ will but him out of business for real and he'z got family to feed.
Don't be naive bro. No body gives you a chance for a fight, it's not a charity sport. You have to put yourself in the position to get the fight.
If he was a draw, no gadamn fighter would ignore him, #Fact.Yeah, I get it. It's the High risk/Low reward formula. May God bless and thank him for fighters like Deontay Wilder who actually took shorts in order to give this man Luis Ortiz an opportunity for a title shot.
The bigger question is which elite fighter/champion/contender outside of Deontay Wilder ever gave him an opportunity? Anthony Joshua had an opportunity to challenge him but didn't. Wladimir Klitschko had an opportunity to challenge him but didn't. Tyson Fury and Dillian Whyte both had opportunities but didn't give him a chance. So the list goes on and on but to this day, every elite championship contender and titleholder continue to avoid and duck this man. Why?
Don't be naive bro. No body gives you a chance for a fight, it's not a charity sport. You have to put yourself in the position to get the fight.
If he was a draw, no gadamn fighter would ignore him, #Fact.