A true fight fan - likes a fighter based on fighting style, courage and resume or they dislike a fighter because of those same reasons or lack thereof.
A cheerleader/fanboy - likes a fighter because of his "attitude" race/ethnicity/nationality and solely because of that or because he speaks a certain language. Or because the media told them to or...because of some other reason only they know.
A hater- hates/dislikes a fighter because of their race/ethnicity/nationality or speaks/dosen't speak a certain language and solely because of those reasons and their hate trancends boxing or sports for that matter and is a generalized hate/dislike.
Here are some examples with commentators...
Fight fans
Czyz
O'Grady
Both former fighters
Cheerleaders/fanboys
Lampley
Kellerman
Haters
Atlas-hates/dislikes Mexican/west coast fighters
Merchant-hates/dislikes black fighters
I disagree with your definitions all around.
To me a fanboy is the type who is all up on someone's nuts & comes up with illogical arguments on why that guy lost a fight or why any moves he makes are always good & never bad.
I think its fine to like a guy of your nationality or w/e (I'm always pro-Michigan fighters, but I'm logical & reasonable in my stances on them) as long as you are reasonable with things he does or doesn't do. Its when you act like a fighter can do no wrong when you drift into fanboy territory.
I also think a hater doesn't need to hate because or race or w/e. You can just hate a guy for a random reason. And its basically the exact opposite of a fanboy. You find an excuse for how he won any fight he won or at least the biggest ones to attempt to minimize their status in your & others eyes. Any move they make in the business you'll find a reason its the wrong move.
And I think a true fight fan is in the middle of these two types of fans. He just enjoys the sport at w/e level the guys are at that are fighting. He'll enjoy the biggest fights in the game down to the 4 rounders with pro debuters.
Yea, there's nothing wrong with liking a fighter thats from your region or race/ethnicity or nationality I just said if thats the sole reason and if so you will be illogical about it. You basically said what I said just worded it differently and pointed out details that go with the description. You did point out something else about haters...it could just be random and Ill add another one, they could be influenced by certain narratives.
i just think you should know the rules. its really not that hard to learn. 2 minutes maybe? blatantly ignoring clinching, headbutting, holding and hitting, wrestling, and low blowing puts you solidly in the fanboy category. they won't even admit it happens! it would be one thing to say wow that was a pretty dirty fight and he got away with a lot of fouls but they pretend they aren't fouls. come on fanboys you go too far with your love
I am not a true fight fan. In fact about the only sport I probably say I love is football. But even then I'm not watching just any game.
I really enjoy top level boxing though I hate the judging (and no this isn't just because of this last fight). I think the judging in boxing is off putting and I know I am not alone.
There are simply too many things I have to do and I want to do then watch all the boxing.
Broner was Larry's next Floyd. He had high hopes for him and was expecting to be celebrating him as the fighter of the decade. I can understand why he has put the face on Broner. It can't be easy when your favorite fighter is a meme.
I didnt make the gif
Does cripple g have any REAL fans?Not many on this forum that's for sure but count me as a big GGG fan. Worldwide he is extremely popular. He didn't get paid maybe 30 million bucks for fighting Canelo because he has no fans. By calling him cripple g you brand yourself as a hater. GGG has lots of REAL fans even if you aren't one of them.
When it comes to GGG you are a hater or you would not put his head on Broner's body.
Broner was Larry's next Floyd. He had high hopes for him and was expecting to be celebrating him as the fighter of the decade. I can understand why he has put the face on Broner. It can't be easy when your favorite fighter is a meme.
The difference is shown when the fighter you support loses or is in a tough fight....your post before and after will tell the taleWhen it comes to GGG you are a hater or you would not put his head on Broner's body.
To this day I can't believe how many folks actually thought Tyson was going to win. Forums weren't as active back then and I had no dog in that fight but remember receiving particularly harsh criticism for suggesting Tyson is washed up and will be cannon fodder.
Yeah man, Tyson looked horrible in that fight... Watching him literally cry in the corner while they were treating his cuts between rds was brutal to see.
I disagree on the criteria for being a true fan. A true fan is someone that watches the sport and not just one fighter or one network, knows the rules, and tries to get their friends and family to watch the sport as well.
This is sports. People pick sides for all kinds of reasons. There is no rule that you have to like any fighter or any type of fighter. In any other sport it is natural for fans to have favorites and those they don't like.
In no other sport have I seen a "true fan" be defined by how they pick the athletes they support.
As for race/nationality/ethnicity that is a also a natural reason to like a fighter. You start out watching them locally and in Golden Gloves. Then you watch them in the Olympics for your country. Then you follow them as pros.
Again, this is sports. There is nothing wrong with "sports hate". In every other sport we hate certain teams or players. I don't know how that is wrong in this sport. You can hate a fighter but respect his skill and talent. IMO it is also ok to despise a fighter.
Where I will agree with you is it isn't ok is when a poster gets mad that you don't like the same guy they do and they make any criticism is rooted in race/nationality/ethnicity rather than address the criticism head on. That is a b-tch move.
You pointed out something I agree with in the true fight fan criteria...they know the rules...great point.
Merchant was a floyd hater. Not sure it's right to label him a hater of all black fighters, lol.
He was in the game a very long time, I'm sure some of his favorite guys in the sport were/are African American.
I agree about Lamps and Kellerman, they just cant hide their love for certain guys.
You could be right about Merchant I know he disliked Floyd, Ward and Hopkins some of the most accomplished fighters.
Rewatched Tyson Vs. Lewis for the first time in a LONG time & forgot how much joy HBO announce team had calling the beating Showtime fighter Mike Tyson (Former HBO fighter) took from Lennox that night.
Build you UP, To bring you DOWN is their M.O.
To this day I can't believe how many folks actually thought Tyson was going to win. Forums weren't as active back then and I had no dog in that fight but remember receiving particularly harsh criticism for suggesting Tyson is washed up and will be cannon fodder.
Rewatched Tyson Vs. Lewis for the first time in a LONG time & forgot how much joy HBO announce team had calling the beating Showtime fighter Mike Tyson (Former HBO fighter) took from Lennox that night.
Build you UP, To bring you DOWN is their M.O.
I think its more like, if your going to act like can animal in the ring and bite your opponents ear off were going to enjoy watching you getting your ass kicked.
A true fight fan - likes a fighter based on fighting style, courage and resume or they dislike a fighter because of those same reasons or lack thereof.
A cheerleader/fanboy - likes a fighter because of his "attitude" race/ethnicity/nationality and solely because of that or because he speaks a certain language. Or because the media told them to or...because of some other reason only they know.
A hater- hates/dislikes a fighter because of their race/ethnicity/nationality or speaks/dosen't speak a certain language and solely because of those reasons and their hate trancends boxing or sports for that matter and is a generalized hate/dislike.
Here are some examples with commentators...
Fight fans
Czyz
O'Grady
Both former fighters
Cheerleaders/fanboys
Lampley
Kellerman
Haters
Atlas-hates/dislikes Mexican/west coast fighters
Merchant-hates/dislikes black fighters
I disagree on the criteria for being a true fan. A true fan is someone that watches the sport and not just one fighter or one network, knows the rules, and tries to get their friends and family to watch the sport as well.
This is sports. People pick sides for all kinds of reasons. There is no rule that you have to like any fighter or any type of fighter. In any other sport it is natural for fans to have favorites and those they don't like.
In no other sport have I seen a "true fan" be defined by how they pick the athletes they support.
As for race/nationality/ethnicity that is a also a natural reason to like a fighter. You start out watching them locally and in Golden Gloves. Then you watch them in the Olympics for your country. Then you follow them as pros.
Again, this is sports. There is nothing wrong with "sports hate". In every other sport we hate certain teams or players. I don't know how that is wrong in this sport. You can hate a fighter but respect his skill and talent. IMO it is also ok to despise a fighter.
Where I will agree with you is it isn't ok is when a poster gets mad that you don't like the same guy they do and they make any criticism is rooted in race/nationality/ethnicity rather than address the criticism head on. That is a b-tch move.
Rewatched Tyson Vs. Lewis for the first time in a LONG time & forgot how much joy HBO announce team had calling the beating Showtime fighter Mike Tyson (Former HBO fighter) took from Lennox that night.
Build you UP, To bring you DOWN is their M.O.
jst look for consistency from narrative to narrative.
if A>B and B>C then A>C. just think of it like a math problem. each side of an equation should balance out and fall under the same rules. figthers should be the same way.
honest people will have the same rules and standards for every fight and fighter. or at least they will come as close as they can to trying to maintain these objective standards. we are all human, after all, and a dog loves a bone.
Merchant was a floyd hater. Not sure it's right to label him a hater of all black fighters, lol.
He was in the game a very long time, I'm sure some of his favorite guys in the sport were/are African American.
I agree about Lamps and Kellerman, they just cant hide their love for certain guys.
enough to keep this board 90% ggg related threads for the past week...or wait, maybe that's all haters.
Yeah I was thinking that. This board is all about GGG and the haters are more obsessed than the fans. It's a strange obsession. Some guys like Robbie Barrett for example go to sleep thinking GGG and wake up thinking him.
You've just described about 70/80% of the posters here.
Of the media I'd definitely agree on Kellerman. He's never grown from his fanboy days of saying Zab Judah was Whitaker with power and obsessed over him. The Ward obsession is very, very creepy. Really weird. Lampley has seldom had shame.
Does cripple g have any REAL fans?
I like both canelo and ggg...I have canelo beating ggg but I still want to see them both against different opponents though and both vs a top dog.