This has to be the most retarded post in NSB history. Canelo fights NOTHING like Toney.
RJJ was light years better than GGG. I think you need to get blocked. I can't read this level of retard willingly.
Guess I missed that 19 fight *MW* title reign from Roy. But I’m sure you read the topic.
But hey, Roy was the greatest HW to ever live by that logic.
The Toney comparisons must be bothering you for years now, huh? Because it’s been a comparison many have made before me.
Please block me.
Really.
Of course GGG is ahead of him at middleweight, poor resume notwithstanding. Roy's best work was above 160. There's a big difference between being a greater fighter that fought in a division and a greater fighter at a division.
Canelo ironically resembles James Toney stylistically in many ways.
Obviously Canelo has more drive/dedication/discipline but yeah.
GGG over Roy any day in terms of MW ranking. Fair is fair and GGG has earned it over a long Mw career.
This has to be the most retarded post in NSB history. Canelo fights NOTHING like Toney.
RJJ was light years better than GGG. I think you need to get blocked. I can't read this level of retard willingly.
he only held one championship title at 160 whereas Gee was a unified title holder counting as well the title defenses and the streak of consecutive knockouts ggg had.
most of jones's historic feat were at higher weights so this should be fair.
Resembles Toney how???
The way he moves at times. That calm but almost disdainful demeanor in the pocket and ferocity in the response/off the counter. An effortless and natural ability at countering and slipping without necessarily having to use or rely on their feet. It’s like theyre rooted to the ground and are beyond comfortable standing straight infront of you — even on the ropes. And hell, it’s an attribute and unrelated (but why not?) but once you get past the skill and land your homerun punch? Nothing happens. Iron chin.
Yes, their punch delivery and many other things arent *exactly* the same, but sometimes even that is...and in terms of resemblance it’s...a spiritual resemblance, if you will.
Not as much in this fight of course but in others.
If I had to try to explain it in a sense... hmm...
It’s not as close a resemblance like Finito Lopez and JM Marquez (to me) but it’s there. Obviously there (imo).
Like if I didn’t know better and someone said James Toney had a protoge and it was Canelo, I would not be surprised by that at all. I’d see the “inspiration”.
Everytime someone says he resembles Floyd since he improved his defense I’m always like “I see Toney not Floyd.”
Canelo better than James toney ? Lol wait till he loses then people will bring his rating right back down to reality
I think people are a bit high from his victory
Agreed, Canelo is no JT.
I get this if it is just about middleweight.
Roy still has a name- BHop- that trumps ANY win G has.
But G has more work in at 160, so I get it as far as middleweight.
The problem is ESPN or whoever has no business putting Roy's name in it if it is just about middleweight.
That's like saying G gets the middleweight nod over SRL, tell us some shyte we don't know because he is famous mostly at lighter weights. But even Ray has a better name on his resume than G at 160.
Now, if they are saying P4P, they shouldn't even mention G in the same article as Roy.
Roy Jones is so on point. GG should've went after Ward in his prime at 168. With that said, you either like Jones wins over Hop and Tate at 160, or GGs career at 160. Its one of those "Jones only had a few fights at 160" kind of questions which begs to ask, why ask who?
I agree completely, prime Roy at MW would destroy both GGG and Canelo.
Fewer wins at MW doesn't take away how good Roy was, he showed how good he was by beating HWs as did Toney, lets see GGG or Canelo go to HW or LHW, dam GGG cant go one division and was walked down by a former WW.
No WW could ever walk down prime Roy Jones in a MW contest.
Roy Jones is so on point. GG should've went after Ward in his prime at 168. With that said, you either like Jones wins over Hop and Tate at 160, or GGs career at 160. Its one of those "Jones only had a few fights at 160" kind of questions which begs to ask, why ask who?
Big fan of Roy and i think he's levels above Triple G when he was in his prime but looking at his resume he hasnt really fought anyone. Trip G hasnt really fought anyone either but Canelo is better than James Toney imo.
umm ya...i dunno if canelo better than toney man...
Jones didn't campaign at MW very long.
I love both Roy and GGG, but GGG spent his whole career at 160 and deserves to be ranked higher at the weight.
Roy was much more accomplished at 168 and 175.
Both Jones and Hopkins were more formidable at 175 than 160.
I know Bernard has the defense record but if you look closely at it ain't sh*!.
Both would be top twenty-five and I think Triple G falls in at the end of twenty-five too!
Sugar Ray Robinson out boxes both and when it comes punching attacks none of them come close to him.
Robinson was fighting top ten middleweights out of his prime and winning!
When you fight 199 bouts and are stopped ONCE by the light heavyweight champ leading on all score cards but heat exhaustion over comes you, the ref, 30 people at ringside and others both Bernard and Jones seem very small in comparison.
I'm sick of hearing people classify Canelo as the "smaller man" BS! He is the "shorter man" his chest, legs, arms, neck and head are all "bigger" than Triple G.
Triple G 5'10" 159 3/4
Canelo 5' 8" 159 1/4
Shorter NOT bigger!!!!!
Ray
Canelo ironically resembles James Toney stylistically in many ways.
Obviously Canelo has more drive/dedication/discipline but yeah.
GGG over Roy any day in terms of MW ranking. Fair is fair and GGG has earned it over a long Mw career.
Resembles Toney how???
Roy is a much better fighter P4P and H2H i'd pick him to beat any middleweight in history in his prime based on the eye test alone, however he didn't really do that much at that weight and GGG deserves a higher middleweight ranking.
Canelo ironically resembles James Toney stylistically in many ways.
Obviously Canelo has more drive/dedication/discipline but yeah.
GGG over Roy any day in terms of MW ranking. Fair is fair and GGG has earned it over a long Mw career.
Exactly... Good post
Canelo better than James toney ? Lol wait till he loses then people will bring his rating right back down to reality
I think people are a bit high from his victory
haha yeah Canelo aint better than Toney. As I said on another boxing site, Toney vs GGG would look like Toney vs Barkley. James standing in front of him countering his misses. I said this a while ago
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