1) Crawford
2) Usyk - His demolition of Briedis and win over elite Briedis puts him at #2 on my list.
3) Canelo
4) Lomachenko - I'm really torn about placing Lomachenko here, to be honest.
5) Rungvisai
6) Mikey Garcia
7) Golovkin
8) Errol Spence Jr.
9) Naoya Inoue
10) Santa Cruz
How to piss others off and get called names. Post your top 10 best pfp list. 1Loma 2GGG 3 Canelo 4 Spence
5 Crawford 6 Usyk 7Inoue 8 Mikey 9LSC 10 Rungvisai
So we go back to Bud.
1st of all Gamboa nevery fought at 135 before that fight.
Either you are a casual, or you are biased like everyone else on this site.
As far as cleaning out divisions,
Crawford never fought the best in any division he was in.
Never fought Linaries at 135, & at 140 he never saw Progrias, Maurico Herrara, Andre Berto/Broner, Omar Figeroua Jr, or Matheyse.
He fought Indogo, & other guys that are not even a afterthought.
Charlo defeated his mandatory in Lubin, & about to face the dangerous Jared Hurd.
Who will Crawford fight next? Mike Alvarado? Brandon Rio's?
No disrespect, but dude never fought anyone with a pulse.
Thurnan, & ESJ said the same thing.
We all can't be wrong sir...
First of all if you are going to call someone a casual for disagreeing with you at least make a factual claim. Gamboa fought Perez for the WBA interim lightweight championship the exact fight prior to Crawford. The last time I checked lightweight is 135 pounds so that would make your claim incorrect and thus your labeling look rather dumb.
He never saw Broner because Broner was fighting at 147 which is the same reason he never saw Berto. Mattheyse, you say? Mattheyse lost to Victor Postol via KO for the WBC title and who then toyed with Postol in the very next fight?
On what planet has Charlo for example "thumped" more than Crawford? Thumped his chest?
Crawford cleaned out 135 beating the #1, 2 & 3 (including the unbeaten Gamboa who was on the cusp of p4p and looked potentially special) and then won every title at 140 against a variety of styles. Crawford has cleaned out more divisions then anyone on your list FYI.
I get that he hasn't got a glittering list of opponents but is resume is better than most of your list, his accomplishments far better and obviously his skill which is a bit more subjective but still clearly obvious to me and most.
So we go back to Bud.
1st of all Gamboa nevery fought at 135 before that fight.
Either you are a casual, or you are biased like everyone else on this site.
As far as cleaning out divisions,
Crawford never fought the best in any division he was in.
Never fought Linaries at 135, & at 140 he never saw Progrias, Maurico Herrara, Andre Berto/Broner, Omar Figeroua Jr, or Matheyse.
He fought Indogo, & other guys that are not even a afterthought.
Charlo defeated his mandatory in Lubin, & about to face the dangerous Jared Hurd.
Who will Crawford fight next? Mike Alvarado? Brandon Rio's?
No disrespect, but dude never fought anyone with a pulse.
Thurnan, & ESJ said the same thing.
We all can't be wrong sir...
Loma 4th? You realize he's actually 1st in the world now right? That's by Ring and ESPN rankings.
Did you just cite ESPN. hahaha. All of us with an account on this site should NEVER use ESPN's rankings. They are a joke. Ring, TBRB, and NSB done by Cliff are at least credible.
1) Crawford
2) Usyk - His demolition of Briedis and win over elite Briedis puts him at #2 on my list.
3) Canelo
4) Lomachenko - I'm really torn about placing Lomachenko here, to be honest.
5) Rungvisai
6) Mikey Garcia
7) Golovkin
8) Errol Spence Jr.
9) Naoya Inoue
10) Santa Cruz
Loma 4th? You realize he's actually 1st in the world now right? That's by Ring and ESPN rankings.
(1)Loma
(2)Mikey Garcia
(3)Canelo
(4)Usyk
(5)Santa Cruz
(6)SSR
(7)Miguel Berchelt
(8)Jared Hurd
(9)Jermell Charlo
(10)Thurman
Again MHO.
I go with guys who fight , meet mandatory defenses, & REALLY. clean out divisions.
Again. I don't do fantasy, or potentially based fighter who pass the media eye test(Crawford, & a couple others).
Just guys who thump.
On what planet has Charlo for example "thumped" more than Crawford? Thumped his chest?
Crawford cleaned out 135 beating the #1, 2 & 3 (including the unbeaten Gamboa who was on the cusp of p4p and looked potentially special) and then won every title at 140 against a variety of styles. Crawford has cleaned out more divisions then anyone on your list FYI.
I get that he hasn't got a glittering list of opponents but is resume is better than most of your list, his accomplishments far better and obviously his skill which is a bit more subjective but still clearly obvious to me and most.
(1)Loma
(2)Mikey Garcia
(3)Canelo
(4)Usyk
(5)Santa Cruz
(6)SSR
(7)Miguel Berchelt
(8)Jared Hurd
(9)Jermell Charlo
(10)Thurman
Again MHO.
I go with guys who fight , meet mandatory defenses, & REALLY. clean out divisions.
Again. I don't do fantasy, or potentially based fighter who pass the media eye test(Crawford, & a couple others).
Just guys who thump.
1) Crawford
2) Usyk - His demolition of Briedis and win over elite Briedis puts him at #2 on my list.
3) Canelo
4) Lomachenko - I'm really torn about placing Lomachenko here, to be honest.
5) Rungvisai
6) Mikey Garcia
7) Golovkin
8) Errol Spence Jr.
9) Naoya Inoue
10) Santa Cruz
Very nice list. Had the same 10 as me.
1. Lomachenko
2. Crawford
3. Usyk
4. Canelo
5. Garcia
6. Inoue
7. Golovkin
8. Spence
9. SSR
10. LSC
I've been having GGG/Spence above Inoue, but that's one change I made. Inoue after the WBSS tournament has a chance to crack the top 5. Spence if he gets the elite WWs soon will as well.
SSR is interesting. Two wins over Chocolatito and the Estrada win are very impressive. Definitely can be placed higher.
LSC with two wins over Mares and Frampton gets the nod over Charlo/Hurd for me.
Pacquiao still has a case as well if you believe he beat Horn.
Then guys like Stevenson/Jack/etc are on the brink.
There's a lot of these threads the last few days. I also posted a consensus p4p based on ESPN, Ring, TBR (which was always said to be gospel) combined results and they have 1. Loma 2. Crawford 3. Canelo 4. GGG 5. Garcia 6. Usyk 7. Rungvisai 8. Inoue 9. Spence 10. Santa Cruz
MY personal is
1. Lomachenko
2. Crawford
3. Usyk
4. Inoue
5. GGG
6. Canelo
7. Rungvisai
8. Garcia
9. Spence
10. Estrada
I think the bottom 4 could go any order and also Santa Cruz, Joshua, Hurd, Nietes have good claims. I have GGG over Canelo because like many/most I felt he won both fights but he's slipping by the day. I think the top 3 have created some distance but if Inoue wins the WBSS he'll have really impressed me.
I put Canelo high, because I accept the judges decision even if I think Golovkin could have gotten the nod. More importantly, I feel like Canelo deserves credit for the move to middleweight (even if he was fighting at 155). I also acknowledge GGG as slipping due to age. If Inoue wins the WBSS, he'll fly up my list, no doubt, unless the other names keep up with his achievements.
1. Terence "Bud" Crawford
2. Vasili "Hi-Tek" Lomachenko
3. Oleksandr "The Cat" Usyk
4. Mikey Garcia
5. Saul "Canelo" Alvarez
6. Srisaket Sor Rungvisai
7. Gennady "GGG" Golovkin
8. Leo Santa Cruz
9. Naoya "Kaibutsu" Inoue
*10. Keith "One Time" Thurman
(About to drop off because of inactivity)
YES I still have Keff as my #1 147lbs above Spence. Don't @me
I think everyone would have Thurman on their P4P and their #1 rated welterweight if he was active. It's been almost 2 years, though. Can't argue to keep him on anymore.
1) Crawford
2) Usyk - His demolition of Briedis and win over elite Briedis puts him at #2 on my list.
3) Canelo
4) Lomachenko - I'm really torn about placing Lomachenko here, to be honest.
5) Rungvisai
6) Mikey Garcia
7) Golovkin
8) Errol Spence Jr.
9) Naoya Inoue
10) Santa Cruz
Too many of these threads, you could have recycled another one
1. Terence "Bud" Crawford
2. Vasili "Hi-Tek" Lomachenko
3. Oleksandr "The Cat" Usyk
4. Mikey Garcia
5. Saul "Canelo" Alvarez
6. Srisaket Sor Rungvisai
7. Gennady "GGG" Golovkin
8. Leo Santa Cruz
9. Naoya "Kaibutsu" Inoue
*10. Keith "One Time" Thurman
(About to drop off because of inactivity)
YES I still have Keff as my #1 147lbs above Spence. Don't @me
There's a lot of these threads the last few days. I also posted a consensus p4p based on ESPN, Ring, TBR (which was always said to be gospel) combined results and they have 1. Loma 2. Crawford 3. Canelo 4. GGG 5. Garcia 6. Usyk 7. Rungvisai 8. Inoue 9. Spence 10. Santa Cruz
MY personal is
1. Lomachenko
2. Crawford
3. Usyk
4. Inoue
5. GGG
6. Canelo
7. Rungvisai
8. Garcia
9. Spence
10. Estrada
I think the bottom 4 could go any order and also Santa Cruz, Joshua, Hurd, Nietes have good claims. I have GGG over Canelo because like many/most I felt he won both fights but he's slipping by the day. I think the top 3 have created some distance but if Inoue wins the WBSS he'll have really impressed me.