Props to two great warriors in the ring last night. One did what they said they would, which is rare, the other, not so Much. Both, however, showed tremendous heart and courage. With that being said there is only one real loser last night ...the jab. Why isn't it being counted?!?! Is there some conspiracy against the jab? Do they find it worthless and Are trying to get rid of the jab like the American penny or the field goal extra point in American football?... Remember guys it is a scoring punch
Or it use to be. RIP jab. You won't be forgotten
Props to two great warriors in the ring last night. One did what they said they would, which is rare, the other, not so Much. Both, however, showed tremendous heart and courage. With that being said there is only one real loser last night ...the jab. Why isn't it being counted?!?! Is there some conspiracy against the jab? Do they find it worthless and Are trying to get rid of the jab like the American penny or the field goal extra point in American football?... Remember guys it is a scoring punch
Or it use to be. RIP jab. You won't be forgotten
Excellent post!!.
Sadly, on this site poster d4thincarnation, who is a mod, actually created a thread where he said jabs didn't count and other posters agreed with that opinion.
Let that sink in for a second. Try not to throw up.
This era of fan thinks only power punchers count. You can't blame them because HBO tells them that. These are the same fans that call boxing and moving "running" and don't like to factor in body shots.
All you can do is hope that along the way they learn how to properly score a fight and that the jab is an effective punch that counts just as much as a power shot.
Who the hell said the jab isn't being counted?
I was just trolling bro. For all the people fussing that gggs “great” jabbing should have won him both fights
some jabs are better than some power shots. just saying one is better than the other doesnt take into account the quality, the force, the cleanliness of the punch.
the reason the majority of people scored it for ggg is probably because ggg's jab was often landing 100 percent unabated while canelos power punches were often partially blocked by ggg's high glove defense.
Canelo wasn't worried about the jab. The jab wasnt hurting him. But we saw canelo looking like Whitaker against his power shots.
Again, canelo did what he wanted and controlled the fight. Canelo made it his fight.
What I'm saying is that the power shots are worth more than a jab. The guy with the power shots was walking down his opponent and causing more damage. Ggg was throwing pitty pat jabs. I mean look at the state of his face *in my Lennox Lewis voice*
If ggg had better defense he would have won the fight. What I'm saying is canelo did waaaay more than ggg. He controlled the fight. It was his fight.
some jabs are better than some power shots. just saying one is better than the other doesnt take into account the quality, the force, the cleanliness of the punch.
the reason the majority of people scored it for ggg is probably because ggg's jab was often landing 100 percent unabated while canelos power punches were often partially blocked by ggg's high glove defense.
What I'm saying is that the power shots are worth more than a jab. The guy with the power shots was walking down his opponent and causing more damage. Ggg was throwing pitty pat jabs. I mean look at the state of his face *in my Lennox Lewis voice*
If ggg had better defense he would have won the fight. What I'm saying is canelo did waaaay more than ggg. He controlled the fight. It was his fight.
Again, show the rule where it says power shots are worth more.
It's like a cat fighting a dog. The cat landed more hooks but the dogs single jab was a far more damaging power shot than all of the cats power punches combined.
I use this metaphor because Canelo is a female sex organ. Cheater. Point fixer. Scum.
Show me the rule where it says a jab only counts if you dont get hit.
What I'm saying is that the power shots are worth more than a jab. The guy with the power shots was walking down his opponent and causing more damage. Ggg was throwing pitty pat jabs. I mean look at the state of his face *in my Lennox Lewis voice*
If ggg had better defense he would have won the fight. What I'm saying is canelo did waaaay more than ggg. He controlled the fight. It was his fight.
Really? I guess Lennox Lewis and Larry Holmes never won fights then.
If used properly, the jab is easily the most effective weapon in boxing.
Like George Foreman says; "Fighting is easy when you have a jab."
Unfortunately, many fighters who have great jabs will abandon it to lead with a left hook. Both Floyd Mayweather and Roy Jones come to mind.
I can't help but laugh at how low people's boxing IQ is on this forum.
If you have a great jab with good defense, then yes you win fights.
If you have a great jab but are being walked down and hit with every power shot, then no you're not winning the fight:rofl:
I mean how stoopid and biased are you?
Maywe we watched a completely different fight then..
Cause the fight I watched, Canelo pretty much dominated through the first half of the fight , GGG only started to gain momentum after first 6 rounds and yet the later rounds were close..
Yeah you watched a completely different fight. This one was on HBO ppv and it featured GGG and his jab. I recommend watching it when you get the time. GGG didn't work off of it or use the jab to set anything meaning full up, but boy oh boy he did throw it and he did manage to land it from time to time, how ever he also missed it 5x as much as he landed. But that's besides the point
Maybe in the second and third round, besides that where exactly did Canelo dominate?
Round six I’ll give the nod to Canelo and maybe the 12th.
Otherwise GGG won the remaining rounds.
Maywe we watched a completely different fight then..
Cause the fight I watched, Canelo pretty much dominated through the first half of the fight , GGG only started to gain momentum after first 6 rounds and yet the later rounds were close..
I love a good jab as my name suggests but you can't win a fight by landing 5 jabs to your opponents 1 good clean hook. That happened a few times last night, GGG wasn't doing enough. But there was also a round or two where Canelo was taking a rest and GGG took it by jabbing.
This casual is referring to the Olympics. He must have just picked up a boxing for dummies book. This was a world title fight, a pro fight with no headgear. This was not an Olympic fight good sir.
Yes Ironically I did just so happen to pick up a boxing for dummies and I must apologize. I'm reading here that the jab is actually basically Worthless in the pros. Especially in title fights were the jab doesn't even count at all. Sorry just stumbled upon it. Its in the same chapter that mentions they don't wear head gear in the Olympics
Props to two great warriors in the ring last night. One did what they said they would, which is rare, the other, not so Much. Both, however, showed tremendous heart and courage. With that being said there is only one real loser last night ...the jab. Why isn't it being counted?!?! Is there some conspiracy against the jab? Do they find it worthless and Are trying to get rid of the jab like the American penny or the field goal extra point in American football?... Remember guys it is a scoring punch
Or it use to be. RIP jab. You won't be forgotten
This casual is referring to the Olympics. He must have just picked up a boxing for dummies book. This was a world title fight, a pro fight with no headgear. This was not an Olympic fight good sir.
The difference is they weren't getting hit with power punch after power punch to the head and body.
If ggg were able to make canelo miss then yes the victory goes to him.
Canelo was making ggg miss most of his power shots. Eye catching defense is scored as well. Canelo didn't care to evade a soft jab because it was doing no damage.
Be honest with yourself. Canelo controlled the fight and did what he wanted. He walked ggg down and I've never seen gggs face look so bad. That was an easy fight to score 8-4 canelo
Show me the rule where it says a jab only counts if you dont get hit.
Did i say that idiot? Power punches outweight the jab in scoring criteria. This is how it's always been and always will. 2 power punches are worth more than 3 jabs. The power punches are doing more damage.
I may be an idiot, true, but I'm not blind (not totally. real bad stigmatisim its a long story. I'll pm you.) And I seen the jab being thrown and in MY book the jab is worth 4 power punches so technically GGG literally hit canelo like 800 times
You cannot win a fight by JABBING!!
Really? I guess Lennox Lewis and Larry Holmes never won fights then.
If used properly, the jab is easily the most effective weapon in boxing.
Like George Foreman says; "Fighting is easy when you have a jab."
Unfortunately, many fighters who have great jabs will abandon it to lead with a left hook. Both Floyd Mayweather and Roy Jones come to mind.
I can't help but laugh at how low people's boxing IQ is on this forum.
Many of GGG’s jabs snapped Canelo’s head back more than Canelo’s power punches snapped GGG’s...
Maybe that's why it was Canelo who was pressing the fight onto him and dictating the pace while GGG peddling backwards throughout the fight???
Canelo's shots were hard and solid, the shots which he hit GGG with in earlier rounds shook GGG , the body work by Canelo was beautiful , GGG didn't display any of it apart from pitty pat Jabs and a couple good combinations in the later rounds..
Canelo was clearly the consistent fighter today, pressed the fight onto GGG, made GGG miss a lot,great body work and solid powershots..
Can we say the same about GGG??
Cannot blame judges for giving the fight to Canelo, GGG's performance was subpar .