Is Dillian Whyte a bigger draw than Deontay Wilder?

:lol1: Ok, we are done here. We’ve been done, my dude. You have no clue what my knowledge of the UK market is. Not a clue. But you yourself admit Wilder is a bigger draw. “It’s just closer than what people realize.” Yeah? Let’s see how this all plays out. We’ll get some answers soon.

What it tells you means squat. Wilder in the UK is comparable. Whyte in the US—or anywhere else—is not. :lol1: Ok, we are done here.

Well I know you aren’t from the Uk, that’s all I said. The fact you think Wilder pulls 20k fans to the o2 to fight Parker tells me all I need to know about your ‘knowledge’ of our market. What it tells you means squat. Wilder in the UK is comparable. Whyte in the US—or anywhere else—is not.

Don’t be a clown. You have no idea where I’m “from” or my understanding of the UK market, which I’m pretty sure is greater than yours. Well I know you aren’t from the Uk, that’s all I said. The fact you think Wilder pulls 20k fans to the o2 to fight Parker tells me all I need to know about your ‘knowledge’ of our market. When was the last major boxing event in Uk featuring two non brits, btw?

Some would, majority wouldn’t. You don’t understand our market and why would you? I’m from here you aren’t. If you think Wilder sells 20k tickets at the o2 versus Parker you are mental. Don’t be a clown. You have no idea where I’m “from” or my understanding of the UK market, which I’m pretty sure is greater than yours.

His last fight pulled £10mill ($13mill) in PPV revenue, plus advertising (yeah we got adverts on ppvs over here, yes it is ridiculous). But yeah being a star in the UK brings nothing to the table This is honestly getting boring now. I’ve already admitted ages ago that Wilder the bigger draw. Just funny that you can’t admit they are close despite the numbers. All that and he’d be lucky to get 30% against Wilder. Guess that doesn’t mean much.

Even you don't believe the same people who bought tickets to Parker-Whyte wouldn't do the same if it was Wilder-Parker instead. You really believe that? Be honest. Some would, majority wouldn’t. You don’t understand our market and why would you? I’m from here you aren’t. If you think Wilder sells 20k tickets at the o2 versus Parker you are mental.

Strawman. I never said belts don't matter. Try again. What I said was that Whyte brings NOTHING to the table. Even if he didn't have a belt and was a draw, he would get more. He doesn't even bring that. He brings NOTHING. But he's a star in the UK. His last fight pulled £10mill ($13mill) in PPV revenue, plus advertising (yeah we got adverts on ppvs over here, yes it is ridiculous). But yeah being a star in the UK brings nothing to the table This is honestly getting boring now. I’ve already admitted ages ago that Wilder the bigger draw. Just funny that you can’t admit they are close

It means despite being ‘known’, people aren’t buying tickets to a Wilder fight over here. Even you don't believe the same people who bought tickets to Parker-Whyte wouldn't do the same if it was Wilder-Parker instead. You really believe that? Be honest.

But GGG and Mosley likely got more than they were technically worth due to having a belt (or 3). Just cos it’s still less doesn’t mean it’s not more than they would have got. If you think belts don’t matter you need to do some research. These guys don’t pay sanctioning fees for nothing Strawman. I never said belts don't matter. Try again. What I said was that Whyte brings NOTHING to the table. Even if he didn't have a belt and was a draw, he would get more. He doesn't even bring that. He brings NOTHING. But he's a star in the UK.

Yeah that doesn't change anything I said. It means despite being ‘known’, people aren’t buying tickets to a Wilder fight over here.

Canelo has no belt yet he's making more money than GGG. Mayweather didn't have a belt when he fought Mosley and made more. If you're a draw, you're a draw. Whyte brings NOTHING to the table, that's why he'd get around 30%. But GGG and Mosley likely got more than they were technically worth due to having a belt (or 3). Just cos it’s still less doesn’t mean it’s not more than they would have got. If you think belts don’t matter you need to do some research. These guys don’t pay sanctioning fees for nothing

Again though, known =/= drawing power. Yeah that doesn't change anything I said.

Actually being a champ matters massively. Wilder has something Whyte wants, that is leverage Canelo has no belt yet he's making more money than GGG. Mayweather didn't have a belt when he fought Mosley and made more. If you're a draw, you're a draw. Whyte brings NOTHING to the table, that's why he'd get around 30%.

The funny thing about this argument about Whyte being as good a draw as Wilder is that if they ever fought, Whyte would probably get 30%. Not because he isn't a champ (if you're a draw, it doesn't matter), but because the two are on different levels popularity-wise. Actually being a champ matters massively. Wilder has something Whyte wants, that is leverage

The problem with that theory is that no one even knows who Whyte is here. The same doesn't hold true in reverse. He's a draw in the tiny UK, a nobody elsewhere. Wilder is a draw in the big US and known everywhere else. Again though, known =/= drawing power.

The funny thing about this argument about Whyte being as good a draw as Wilder is that if they ever fought, Whyte would probably get 30%. Not because he isn't a champ (if you're a draw, it doesn't matter), but because the two are on different levels popularity-wise.

Just cos you know who someone is, doesn’t make them a draw. Most Joshua fans know who Wlder is, you reckon they draw the same over here as well? If 500k people pay to see you that makes you a draw. Doesn’t matter whether you agree they should have paid or not. I didn’t pay for May vsMac and thought anyone buying pretty stupid, doesn’t mean they aren’t draws. Your logic is ridiculous The problem with that theory is that no one even knows who Whyte is here. The same doesn't hold true in reverse. He's a draw in the tiny UK, a nobody elsewhere. Wilder is a draw in the big US and known everywhere else.

I think we're discussing viewership. Whether people are stupid enough to pay to watch Dillian Whyte on PPV is their business. The Brits are getting squeezed by Hearn and thus have somehow concluded that because they're willing to pay to see him, he must be a big draw. Anyone in the UK who knows Dillian Whyte knows Deontay Wilder. The same doesn't apply in the US. Just cos you know who someone is, doesn’t make them a draw. Most Joshua fans know who Wlder is, you reckon they draw the same over here as well? If 500k people pay to see you that makes you a draw. Doesn’t matter whether you agree they should have paid or not. I didn’t pay for May vsMac and thought anyone buying pretty stupid, doesn’t mean they aren’t draws. Your logic is ridiculous

You reckon Wilder does a Mill+ over here? Also what the hell even is that second point? You think 500k Ghanaians are gonna £25 a month for sky and then pay £20 on PPV :lol1: I think we're discussing viewership. Whether people are stupid enough to pay to watch Dillian Whyte on PPV is their business. The Brits are getting squeezed by Hearn and thus have somehow concluded that because they're willing to pay to see him, he must be a big draw. Anyone in the UK who knows Dillian Whyte knows Deontay Wilder. The same doesn't apply in the US.