Wilder ducked out of a paid contract to face off against AJ...yet he turns up in a ring, in a b side fight, on a b side channel.
Wilder so scared he'll fight a coke addict, worst part is, he may lose in this calculated botch lol
AJ and Hearn didn't want him in the ring and then wanted Whyte to confront Wilder.
Fury is not scarred like AJ is and at least he shows that he has balls. With no excuses even with the layoff he is going after one of boxing most feared right hand.
Let AJ hide behind contracts and money issues since he said that if anybody wants him to fight Wilder they should train and do it themselves.
No...all I'm saying is you said you "don't care what Wilder said"...yet you're using what he said as the basis of your argument...for the third time. Do you not realise how stupid that sounds?
Now you have me all confused. Which of Wilder's words am I using as the basis for my argument?
"Joshua will be a back-foot fighter against Povetkin, he is NOT that fighter and he will pay for it ":burnout:
Theres nothing exciting if you get 12 rnds of tentative punching .
You ARE going to see Joshua K.O Povetkin .
You will in all likelyhood see a Fury points UD decision bore fest with a few scary moments for each ......
joshua is still practising his boxing (like he admitted), as evidenced by his last 2 fights.
Povetkin is a seasoned boxer who knows how to fight guys like Joshua...... Joshua knows this, I know this, his team knows this...... only person not realising the danger is YOU! lol
Povetkin is a nightmare stylistically for a robot like Joshua that is still learning boxing. povetkin will do damage whenever they trade or inside.... Joshua will box back foot, mark my words.
What does my integrity have to do with this?
Wilder said he wanted to come to the fight and come into the ring. Hearn said he wouldn't be allowed. The commission backed him up. Wilder didn't show up. End of story.
Now you're making it a "gotcha" situation and blaming Wilder.
It doesn't matter what he said because Hearn made it clear he wouldn't be welcomed or allowed in the ring. Wilder's "excuse" for not appearing is irrelevant. Why you're making Wilder's comments an issue is beyond me and embarrassing on your part.
No...all I'm saying is you said you "don't care what Wilder said"...yet you're using what he said as the basis of your argument...for the third time. Do you not realise how stupid that sounds?
The event yea !
The actual fight ? I would say no .
Joshua and Povetkin are going to have some clashes here , i think Joshua smashes him up .
Fury and Wilder will have a lot of lack luster rnds and it will be more competitive but a better fight with two back foot fighters ? Only way that happens if Wilder goes after Fury .
Joshua will be a back-foot fighter against Povetkin, he is NOT that fighter and he will pay for it.
Fury and Wilder will be exciting just because Wilder can end the fight at any time, even if Fury outboxes him...... Joshua is going to be worse than he was against Takam and Parker.... trying to learn how to box and go 12 rounds while playing it safe and trying to jab and move... throwing no right hands.
You just said in your first post that Wilder said Hearn wouldn't let him come into the ring...now you're saying it doesnt matter what he said?
Have some integrity.
What does my integrity have to do with this?
Wilder said he wanted to come to the fight and come into the ring. Hearn said he wouldn't be allowed. The commission backed him up. Wilder didn't show up. End of story.
Now you're making it a "gotcha" situation and blaming Wilder.
It doesn't matter what he said because Hearn made it clear he wouldn't be welcomed or allowed in the ring. Wilder's "excuse" for not appearing is irrelevant. Why you're making Wilder's comments an issue is beyond me and embarrassing on your part.
because he never fancied the job. ive never known the heavyweight champion of the world need the promoters permission to get in the ring. and if it came down to it and they prevent him getting in the ring then joshua would have looked like the biggest ***** going, it was win win either way for wilder.
So team Joshua first insisted that Wilder fight one of their stablemates, then presented a ridiculous low ball offer, then named their price and when that price was met back peddled all to hell, then sent a contract with no date but it's team Wilder that didn't "fancy" the job? GTFOH!
Your eyes can tell you which is a better fight. This site is no place for such a poll.
But we'll go off of how the fights are reported and the general consensus.
Fair enough.
Joshua/Povetkin will be a good fight I agree with you there.... I know Wilder/Fury will be a much more exciting event.
Wilder is ok with facing Fury for less money because he knows its a much safer fight. He isn't as confident in beating Joshua which is why he is demanding retirement money.
This says it all!
It doesn't matter what Wilder said.
Hearn was running the show and he inisisted Wilder wouldn't be allowed in the ring. Even the Commission got involved.
Maybe Wilder lied because he didn't want to appear to be kowtowing to Hearn.
This has been a measuring contest between all parties involved. In this instance, Hearn got his wish to keep Wilder away from Joshua.
The Fury people don't seem to have that problem and Wilder showed up. I'm not even sure many people knew about Wilder and a restraining order until you brought it up.
You just said in your first post that Wilder said Hearn wouldn't let him come into the ring...now you're saying it doesnt matter what he said?
Have some integrity.
A KO = a momentous occasion = a better fight..... you're already talking nonsense.
Does a KO mean it's a better fight? who is judging the quality of the fight? is it judged on excitement or boxing ability?
I think we'll need a poll to decide which was better, and the loser deletes their account.:fu2:
Your eyes can tell you which is a better fight. This site is no place for such a poll.
But we'll go off of how the fights are reported and the general consensus.
Wilder is ok with facing Fury for less money because he knows its a much safer fight. He isn't as confident in beating Joshua which is why he is demanding retirement money.
Because they said that he couldn't get in the ring That with the fact that Hearn wants to push Wilder-Shyte before Wilder-AJ. Clear setup to get Wilder looking bad with AJ talking over him in the ring, followed by Shyte trying to get in his face.
Rusty how many times will I make a fool out of you?
Wilder stated he was being sued for a restraining order, which is why he could not come to the UK, or rather, would not...yet he would be less than 10 meters away in a commentary and get paid for it.
So no, Wilder refused to come because he did not want the fight. He turned down a career high pay day (he will not even make a fraction of that against Fury) to fight a coke addict.
Enjoy the clown match up.
You are making a fool out of yourself. Wilder didn't state there was a restraining order, he said he heard it. Nevertheless, he accepted to go with the condition of getting in the ring, why would he go if his condition was taken away? At least Fury has balls and called him to the ring. Last, don't let your mouth (or fingers) run when you don't know how much this fight is going to do
Wilder himself claimed there was a restraining order against him, which turned out to be certifiably false, i.e. a lie. Why did he lie about that?
I'll be waiting for a reply.
It doesn't matter what Wilder said.
Hearn was running the show and he inisisted Wilder wouldn't be allowed in the ring. Even the Commission got involved.
Maybe Wilder lied because he didn't want to appear to be kowtowing to Hearn.
This has been a measuring contest between all parties involved. In this instance, Hearn got his wish to keep Wilder away from Joshua.
The Fury people don't seem to have that problem and Wilder showed up. I'm not even sure many people knew about Wilder and a restraining order until you brought it up.
haha Povetkin was a world beater when Wilder was going to fight him though right ... and that was the best opponent Wilder had "signed" to face until his most recent bout against Luis Ortiz :D how quickly YOU fanboys forget
Fury hasn't done anything of note since 2015, and most who saw that fight agree Wladimir Klitschko shat the bed. If Fury beats Wilder he will get the AJ fight so I'm not really sure what your point is. Wilder is B side & Fury is B side as another poster mentioned, while AJ is still the A side. Now Povetkin is being labelled as worse than Ortiz too? GTFO Ortiz has done absolutely nothing in boxing and he's slightly older than Povetkin. I also see mention of Povetkin's failed drug tests all the time as another reason why he's a "bum" but no mention of Ortiz's failed drug tests? FUCKING LOL one of those failed tests results in Wilder facing Stiverne instead of Ortiz but it's conveniently forgotten.
Let me conveniently remind you ^^
Joshua/Povetkin is a good fight, just not as good or exciting a match up as Wilder/Fury.
Povetkin has not looked good for a while that has to be acknowledged.
I think Povetkin would have beat Wilder at that time, and he has a chance to KO Joshua.
I said before the Wilder/Ortiz fight that Ortiz was an unknown fighter and questioned his ability to fight 12 rounds....
I tell it like it is.
clear fanboy thread....
Hope you enjoy the Joshua/Povetkin fight... can't wait for the press conference and build-up!
haha Povetkin was a world beater when Wilder was going to fight him though right ... and that was the best opponent Wilder had "signed" to face until his most recent bout against Luis Ortiz :D how quickly YOU fanboys forget
Fury hasn't done anything of note since 2015, and most who saw that fight agree Wladimir Klitschko shat the bed. If Fury beats Wilder he will get the AJ fight so I'm not really sure what your point is. Wilder is B side & Fury is B side as another poster mentioned, while AJ is still the A side. Now Povetkin is being labelled as worse than Ortiz too? GTFO Ortiz has done absolutely nothing in boxing and he's slightly older than Povetkin. I also see mention of Povetkin's failed drug tests all the time as another reason why he's a "bum" but no mention of Ortiz's failed drug tests? FUCKING LOL one of those failed tests resulted in Wilder facing Stiverne instead of Ortiz but it's conveniently forgotten.
Let me conveniently remind you ^^
That would make it even greater fight and a more momentous occasion, thus I'd win the bet you dick cheese :fu2:
A KO = a momentous occasion = a better fight..... you're already talking nonsense.
Does a KO mean it's a better fight? who is judging the quality of the fight? is it judged on excitement or boxing ability?
I think we'll need a poll to decide which was better, and the loser deletes their account.:fu2:
I hope Joshua gets KO'd right in front of your eyes, while you're sitting in your complimentary seats, you walloper lol
That would make it even greater fight and a more momentous occasion, thus I'd win the bet you dick cheese :fu2: