Did Wilder's Win Over Ortiz Impress you?

dude was rocked by molina, give me a break, he doesn't have a great chin at all. read the comment that i was quoting first. and the analogy is pretty simple, we all know khan's chin is terrible but he survived maidana who was a big puncher. his chin didn't stop being terrible because of that just like wilder doesn't have a great chin for surviving ortiz Yeah I read the comment which YOU quoted lmao. You don't think he has a great chin. Big ****en deal, thats it's your opinion. There's isn't a ****en book that proves you right that Wilder doesn't have a great chin. It's not written in the BOOK Of Truths that Wilders chin isn't great lmao. So if someone says that Wilder does have a great chin, they're wrong because YOU said he was rocked by Molina, lmao. Foh. He survived Molina AND the battering by Ortiz. So I don't know how you can get mad at anyone who thinks that he has a great chin. What, you have to take a punch on the chin and not get wobbled at all to show that you have a great chin? This is boxing, everyone gets wobbled. Every last great fighter in the history of boxing was wobbled even if it was for a second or two. Recuperative powers Matters lol. And your analogy using Khan is terrible for this reason. Khan was already ktfo in half a round before he fought Maidana. Maidana throws looping shots, he isn't a straight shooter. Sure Maidana can hurt you, but I wouldn't call him a big puncher. And who says Maidana is a big puncher, YOU!!!??? Since when? When he kod Ortiz or Karass, lmao...!!!??? Yeah he can punch a bit, but he didn't ko Khan. Maidana goes to your head, body and balls, lmao.

I had Ortiz winning until the time of the stoppage. Wilder came in light because he was sick, he showed how resiliant he is and his power once again bailed him out. I saw good things but was not impressed.

dude was rocked by molina, give me a break, he doesn't have a great chin at all. read the comment that i was quoting first. and the analogy is pretty simple, we all know khan's chin is terrible but he survived maidana who was a big puncher. his chin didn't stop being terrible because of that just like wilder doesn't have a great chin for surviving ortiz Wilder was more so off balance and Molina is a pretty big puncher, he took it well. Molina nearly KO'd Arreola in the 1st round before getting caught himself, Vitali Klitschko threw everything but the kitchen sink at Arreola and could not rock him the way Molina did.

What the **** does Khan have to do with anything? How does your analogy relate to Wilder lmao??? Wilder has been rocked and then terribly rocked and hasn't even gone down. His chin sucks? Who's chin sucks lmfao? And tell us why his chin sucks... dude was rocked by molina, give me a break, he doesn't have a great chin at all. read the comment that i was quoting first. and the analogy is pretty simple, we all know khan's chin is terrible but he survived maidana who was a big puncher. his chin didn't stop being terrible because of that just like wilder doesn't have a great chin for surviving ortiz

Yes it was a good win but aside from Ortiz Wilder's resume is pretty pathetic. He was still fighting cans like Jason Gavern and Audley Harrison 5 years after turning pro. Embarrassing for a guy who was an olympic bronze medalist.

Any fighter who survives being hit with a great shot whether put down or still standing deserves respect. And anyone who wasn't impressed by the punishment that Wilder took without going down is a Joshua fan and part of the JDB Unit. Lol

He did what he was supposed to do...beat a fat, nearly 40 year old contender who had never been tested before.

his chin sucks, khan survived maidana somehow, does he have a good chin? What the **** does Khan have to do with anything? How does your analogy relate to Wilder lmao??? Wilder has been rocked and then terribly rocked and hasn't even gone down. His chin sucks? Who's chin sucks lmfao? And tell us why his chin sucks...

yea showed a great chin and did well to smother ortiz when hurt his chin sucks, khan survived maidana somehow, does he have a good chin?

I said it thinking that I was talking to somebody smart enough to understand what I was saying. I see now that that was not the case. And Ortiz himself told you what happened when he reached out to Hearn & Joshua, hence why he said what he said, so whatever. Forget about thinking, you made a statement. You just don't want to own up to it. At which point could Joshua face Ortiz? Ortiz reaching out to Hearn means nothing when Joshua never had a chance to face him.

You're the one who said it, so own up to it. Joshua doesn't really call people out, it's not his style. So him not calling Ortiz out is neither here nor there. At no point could Joshua fight Ortiz. So it doesn't matter any way. If so, when could Joshua face Ortiz? I said it thinking that I was talking to somebody smart enough to understand what I was saying. I see now that that was not the case. And Ortiz himself told you what happened when he reached out to Hearn & Joshua, hence why he said what he said, so whatever.

I thought it was obvious that he didn't gas against Charles Martin and in his fights where he knocked people out in 1 or 2 rounds. I didn't think I needed to spell it out for you, but I forgot that this is NSB where people are obtuse or pretend to be obtuse for argument's sake. Even Ortiz himself says that he respects Wilder but doesn't respect Joshua because Joshua won't answer his call. Luis Ortiz has fired massive shots at Anthony Joshua & Eddie Hearn You're the one who said it, so own up to it. Joshua doesn't really call people out, it's not his style. So him not calling Ortiz out is neither here nor there. At no point could Joshua fight Ortiz. So it doesn't matter any way. If so, when could Joshua face Ortiz?

You're wrong on just about everything you said, culminating with saying Ortiz was taylor made for Wilder. You couldn't be more wrong. Fury is the worst style for Wilder but Ortiz was close to it because he's got a high ring IQ, very good power and has a long reach. Stiverne was an example of a guy who was made for Wilder. Smaller, average power and no real boxing craft. Very poor assessment which I think starts with a little Wilder hate. So I'm not a big Wilder fan either but I'm curious to know what puts him off for you other than him being from the greatest country in the world? Stiverne has a longer reach.. Luis Ortiz Reach: 198.1cm Bermane Stiverne Reach: 203.2cm If you're going to speak absolute bulls**t, at least check it for glaringly obvious holes before you present it. EDIT - And you said something about the US being awesome, but I couldn't hear you over the gunshots in the background. Was this one a school, or a mall?

I guess it's impressive that after Ortiz beat the shyt out of Wilder he found a way to put him down. I think it's the beating Wilder took from Ortiz making him take such a long break from boxing now.

The problem with Wilder-Ortiz is, the win for Wilder loses it's shine the more you look at it. - Ortiz is listed as 39 years old, although it's reasonably clear he's older than that. - Ortiz's resume is pretty thin. He was seen as a bit of a boogeyman, and he has won fights in a strong manner, but it's a collection of C level guys. There's no real gauge of how good he is because the only guy he's fought that might be any good, has been criticized endlessly for a (at the time) 39-0 built on...guess what..nobodies. Two guys with creampuff resumes, doesn't suddenly equate to a big win for one of them. - Ortiz is exactly the kind of fighter who's style Wilder thrives on, and presents very little risk in exposing Wilder's glaringly obvious flaws. Wilder is a big power, sloppy technique, throw bombs in bunches kind of fighter - those guys excel at fighting big, lumbering targets who struggle with movement and evasiveness. And what kind of fighters are Wilder's two best wins (Stiverne and Ortiz)? Big, lumbering targets who struggle with movement and evasiveness. Shock *****ing horror. You're wrong on just about everything you said, culminating with saying Ortiz was taylor made for Wilder. You couldn't be more wrong. Fury is the worst style for Wilder but Ortiz was close to it because he's got a high ring IQ, very good power and has a long reach. Stiverne was an example of a guy who was made for Wilder. Smaller, average power and no real boxing craft. Very poor assessment which I think starts with a little Wilder hate. So I'm not a big Wilder fan either but I'm curious to know what puts him off for you other than him being from the greatest country in the world?

Very impressed. He was getting out boxed and then roughed up pretty bad and managed to come back and get his man out of there like a champion is supposed to do. Nobody is ever safe from Wilder's power. Not even at the very end of a tough fight. If you get tired in front of him, you're in serious, serious danger.

Nope!!!!!!!

Ortiz was a good win for Wilder. His best yet. Wilder had to fight through adversity. Fat @ss Stiverne let Wilder fight at a slow, controlled pace in their first fight and he did sweet F- All in their second fight, so I think the Ortiz win was much more impressive than those fights.

Go back and read your post on page 5. You claim Joshua gassed out in every one of his fights. So it's you who seems to be slow. You don't even know what you're writing. You obviously didn't mean his most recent fights otherwise you would have said so. But you didn't, you said EVERY ONE of his fights. I'll give you the Wlad fight. But he did get a second wind and come back strong. But the Parker and Takam fights?? He didn't gas in any of those fights at all. If you're going to say that, you may as well say Joshua got knocked out in the first round by both. Makes as much sense as saying he gassed in those fights. Joshua had to fight his IBF mandatory first otherwise they said they would strip him. Ortiz would have been next if he didn't fail a test and go in Wilder's direction. Joshua called Fury's name because Fury kept on calling him out. He was just letting Fury know he's ready at any time to get it on. But Joshua also said that he wants the fight when Fury is back to his best. After Takam, a bigger fight in Parker was there in a unification. So Joshua wasn't going to fight Ortiz then. And now he's got another mandatory in Povetkin, so Joshua can't fight him next either. At no point could an Ortiz fight happen other than waiting for Joshua to sort out his IBF mandatory and get the fight next as he was WBA mandatory. But as I say, he went in Wilder's direction instead and failed a test, so he wouldn't have got the shot at Joshua anyway because the WBA stripped him of his mandatory position. I thought it was obvious that he didn't gas against Charles Martin and in his fights where he knocked people out in 1 or 2 rounds. I didn't think I needed to spell it out for you, but I forgot that this is NSB where people are obtuse or pretend to be obtuse for argument's sake. Even Ortiz himself says that he respects Wilder but doesn't respect Joshua because Joshua won't answer his call. Luis Ortiz has fired massive shots at Anthony Joshua & Eddie Hearn

What are you slow? Obviously, I didn't mean he gassed out of all of his 21 fights, including the ones that were over almost immediately. You know I meant his recent ones. He gassed against Klit. He gassed against Parker He gassed against that African cat. His stamina is ass. And he could've called out Ortiz after the fought Klitschko, but he chose to call out a Tyson Fury who hadn't even fought in a year & half at that point. He got let off the hook after Ortiz failed that drug test, but he was free to call him out any time since he's been back. Notice, he never ONCE has called him out. Even Ortiz is noticing this and called HIM out a few weeks ago. Go back and read your post on page 5. You claim Joshua gassed out in every one of his fights. So it's you who seems to be slow. You don't even know what you're writing. You obviously didn't mean his most recent fights otherwise you would have said so. But you didn't, you said EVERY ONE of his fights. I'll give you the Wlad fight. But he did get a second wind and come back strong. But the Parker and Takam fights?? He didn't gas in any of those fights at all. If you're going to say that, you may as well say Joshua got knocked out in the first round by both. Makes as much sense as saying he gassed in those fights. Joshua had to fight his IBF mandatory first otherwise they said they would strip him. Ortiz would have been next if he didn't fail a test and go in Wilder's direction. Joshua called Fury's name because Fury kept on calling him out. He was just letting Fury know he's ready at any time to get it on. But Joshua also said that he wants the fight when Fury is back to his best. After Takam, a bigger fight in Parker was there in a unification. So Joshua wasn't going to fight Ortiz then. And now he's got another mandatory in Povetkin, so Joshua can't fight him next either. At no point could an Ortiz fight happen other than waiting for Joshua to sort out his IBF mandatory and get the fight next as he was WBA mandatory. But as I say, he went in Wilder's direction instead and failed a test, so he wouldn't have got the shot at Joshua anyway because the WBA stripped him of his mandatory position.