Please read this link in it's entirety and see if you came away thinking the same as me. That there's no doubt in my mind that Floyd had been using illegal PED's. The only reason to apply for IV's way before even knowing that you would get dehydrated IN THE FUTURE is if you plan on doping. Not only that, the IV was extremely large for normal dehydration. No doubt Floyd had cheated.
https://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/USADAs-Detailed-Correction-to-SB-Nation-Article-by-Tom-Hauser.pdf
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#4- its too late now.
Mayweather is retired incase you didn't know.
No amount of polls will change the fact that he was never caught doing any illegal actions in regards to doping or else he would of been banned from boxing.
The funny thing is that Floyd fans always bragged about how he's small for the div and doesn't cut much weight. But, then all the sudden they found themselves in an awkward position defending the IV for hydration...
Honestly, where he lost me was not the possibility he could have used (anyone could have used), but the beating up on women. THAT was fact but I think most angry fuks on the internet hate women anyway so they're OK with that part.
Comical part is that Floyd and company, INCLUDING USADA said that giving urine/blood (drug testing) doesn't affect you.
Floyd went a step further with Manny
"When Manny gave blood before the first Morales fight," Mayweather says, "he lost. He didn't give blood for the next two fights and he knocked Morales out with ease. A lot of times, people don't realize, giving blood doesn't make you weak. Not being able to juice because you have to give blood makes you weak. That's what a lot of people don't realize and don't know."
Then Floyd/Ellerbe bring up the drug testing also affected Floyd!!!!
Blood sample < 2 tbsp. was given 10 days before hand!!!! :pat:
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Almost every fighter in the top 50 of each weight class is using or was using
It doesn't matter if you know about it or not
It doesn't matter if you like it or not
It's a fact and people in charge know it, they know it's been used since at least the 60's
The funny thing is that Floyd fans always bragged about how he's small for the div and doesn't cut much weight. But, then all the sudden they found themselves in an awkward position defending the IV for hydration...
Honestly, where he lost me was not the possibility he could have used (anyone could have used), but the beating up on women. THAT was fact but I think most angry fuks on the internet hate women anyway so they're OK with that part.
Damn redd we are a lot alike cheers brotha.
I just never got how he would need an IV if his walk around weight was 150 according to his groupies so he would need it for losing just 3 pounds?
The funny thing is that Floyd fans always bragged about how he's small for the div and doesn't cut much weight. But, then all the sudden they found themselves in an awkward position defending the IV for hydration...
Honestly, where he lost me was not the possibility he could have used (anyone could have used), but the beating up on women. THAT was fact but I think most angry fuks on the internet hate women anyway so they're OK with that part.
I just never got how he would need an IV if his walk around weight was 150 according to his groupies so he would need it for losing just 3 pounds?
and we see him drinking plenty at the weigh in!!!
The head of the WADA TUE Committee who is also a doctor used words such as:
"Red Flag", "Smells bad".
The explanations given was that if Floyd required an IV then that meant that he was in no shape to fight.
He explained that for dehydration, just drink some fluids.
Floyd was seen drinking lots of fluids!!!!
According to their own admission, Floyd came in weight EASILY!!!!
Weighed relatively stable for 1 month
Science does NOT back up Floyd's statements!
Finally, there was no investigation done by USADA. Instead, there was a 25 page response which mainly was to "protect" Floyd! As per USADA, many who try to get a RETRO TUE are investigated to verify the TRUTH.
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I'm no Floyd fan but it's entirely feasible that a smart guy would apply for an IV if he felt dehydrated in previous fights and wanted to be prepared.
Fans get these little scraps of info and desperately inflate them way beyond what what they are. I think it's possible he doped. But I'm not going to act like a clown over it when he wasn't busted. AJ is probably doping and I think his appearance is greater evidence than anything Floyd was caught doing.
I just never got how he would need an IV if his walk around weight was 150 according to his groupies so he would need it for losing just 3 pounds?
didnt he get tested before and after the IV?
this was the defense for Lance Armstrong too. Ooops!
but that is an incorrect statement if you meant that he gave 2 full urine samples.
Floyd was delaying 6 hours because he was not able to urinate that little amount of urine that is required.
So he gave a bit before and a bit after until it reached the level required. That was then placed into a container (both samples) then only after that was it tested
Delaying just a few hours can make the difference between getting caught and showing no signs of PEDs use. Even less than that if you took the PED a while back and you just want to be sure that it will not show up in the sample.
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Xylocaine lidocaine is legal in all 50 states. You should just exit this thread. Just like all of the Maywether haters low iq, no knowledge, and jealous
Lol yet people act the clown over Manny and he was never caught either.
I think that's the stupidest thing ever. Manny could have certainly doped but there's nothing about his gains or appearance that offers any evidence. These guys that protect one fiercely but attack the other are just being biased fanboys, IMO. They need to grow the fuk up and recognize both were great boxers and we're lucky to have had them in the sport.
Lol you know how much money has been made off him??:pat:
Stop it with that retarded excuse. They made money off of Lance Armstrong also. No established organization as large as USADA would risk their entire organization for a black boxer convicted of domestic violence. Furthermore no white man would ever risk his career and federal prison time to cover up for a black boxer.
I'm no Floyd fan but it's entirely feasible that a smart guy would apply for an IV if he felt dehydrated in previous fights and wanted to be prepared.
Fans get these little scraps of info and desperately inflate them way beyond what what they are. I think it's possible he doped. But I'm not going to act like a clown over it when he wasn't busted. AJ is probably doping and I think his appearance is greater evidence than anything Floyd was caught doing.
Lol yet people act the clown over Manny and he was never caught either.
https://slipthejab.wordpress.com/2014/01/27/injecting-drama-floyd-mayweather-jr-lidocaine-xylocaine-his-hands-and-supposed-doping/
It turns out that Floyd Mayweather was given a secret, massive injection of chemicals the day before his May 2 super-fight with Manny Pacquiao.
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Such shots break generally accepted anti-doping rules because they can mask the presence of other chemicals in the athlete’s system, including performance-enhancing drugs.
Mayweather’s silent fixer/advisor Al Haymon, the Godfather of boxing, saw to it that the U.S. Anti Doping Agency was paid an extremely generous $150,000 for handling blood and urine testing for the fight. That’s approximately ten times the amount it would normally get. Mayweather’s own company handled the promotion and hired the testing agency for both fighters.
USADA is privately operated, and Haymon is one of its best customers.
USADA retroactively said that what Mayweather did was okay, but it kept it quiet. It didn’t inform the Nevada commission for three weeks. Nor did it inform Team Pacquiao. The commission wasn’t even told whether USADA was on site to test the ingredients.
All this information can be gleaned from the massive, quite thorough investigative piece by Thomas Hauser that just appeared in SB Nation and was written about on this site by Sean Crose. Almost every year without fail Hauser wins first prize in the investigative category from the Boxing Writers Association of America, and it looks like he’s done it again in 2015.
USADA says everything’s on the up and up, and it objects to Hauser’s article, but its denials are mostly general in nature. It more or less says he doesn’t know what he’s writing about, but it has a hard time pinpointing inaccuracies. It also says it follows standard practices set by the World Anti-Doping Agency, which prohibits such injections.
Meanwhile Pacquiao, who, alas, failed to pay USADA $150,000, didn’t get much help when he requested a pain-relieving injection for an injured right shoulder that his team had somehow forgot to tell the state commission about. The team did inform USADA though, and USADA chose not to share that information with the state commission, which refused the injection. Now Pacquiao says he got screwed even worse than he thought, and he’s demanding a rematch.
The shot or shots from two separate mixes that were administered to Floyd equaled about 16 percent of the blood normally present in an average adult male. His team said the mixes contained saline and vitamins to help him overcome the dehydration he endured to make the 147-pound weight limit. Fighters are supposed to rehydrate by consuming water and nutritionally helpful substances the old-fashioned way, by swallowing.
USADA is a nonprofit entity, which means it pays no federal income tax. However, that doesn’t mean it works for free. Nonprofit status doesn’t prevent an organization from paying its executives generous salaries and expenses and granting other nice perks.
Hauser cited other USADA inconsistencies regarding its handling of Erik Morales, who tested positive prior to his 2012 match with Danny Garcia. The match proceeded anyway. If you want to know why, I suggest you read Hauser’s article because the answer requires lots and lots of snore-mongering details.
VADA, the Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency headed by Dr. Margaret Goodman, is generally considered more thorough than USADA. Goodman, who used to be a ring physician for the Nevada commission, is one of the foremost PEDs experts in the world and squeaky clean. Mayweather and Haymon prefer USADA, which numbers the U.S. Olympic Committee among its clients.
Of course there’s lots of irony in all this. Mayweather once had to settle out of court with Pacquiao after he accused the Philippines congressman of indulging in secret chemistry and couldn’t back it up with any evidence. It’s hard to write about specifics because you can be sued for repeating a libel. Mayweather also issued a denial saying he didn’t say the things we heard him say.
Boxing articles should be about boxing, not chemicals.
I disagree with fans clamoring for a rematch. A crummy fight shouldn’t be repeated, especially after the first fight demanded a record $100 for high-def pay-per-view and both teams profited mightily from the carefully calculated scalping of tickets for seats in the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. The two fighters and their teams were hugely overpaid.
If they want to do it again that’s fine, but only if they agree they’ve lost all pay-per-view privileges.
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What does that have to do with the injections in his hand . You said something stupid and now trying to play it off with that copy and paste
I'm no Floyd fan but it's entirely feasible that a smart guy would apply for an IV if he felt dehydrated in previous fights and wanted to be prepared.
Fans get these little scraps of info and desperately inflate them way beyond what what they are. I think it's possible he doped. But I'm not going to act like a clown over it when he wasn't busted. AJ is probably doping and I think his appearance is greater evidence than anything Floyd was caught doing.
Floyd’s clean as ever. From the Olympics until the day he retired. No organization is going to cover for an black felon for over 20 yrs. Only people to try to discredit him are the racist haters who never won a fight a day in their life.
Lol you know how much money has been made off him??:pat: