Would you prefer him to tuck his tail and duck Crawford? But yeah... he will get beat
another easy fight for the coward champs in boxing. a total disgrace
Point is you cant make a fight when one half of the duo doesn't want the fight. Pac team will not put him in there with TC at this point.
Same way they cant make Thurman or Porter or Garcia fight Spence when they want no part of him.
Cant blame Arum at this point. He would have sold Pac out to make TC his next superstar.
I believe Arum can make his fighters fight or put them on the shelf as we have seen him do. If not Crawford then Thurman at the very least to make 1 WBA champ.
Even more reason for the Crawford/Manny fight to be made next.
Point is you cant make a fight when one half of the duo doesn't want the fight. Pac team will not put him in there with TC at this point.
Same way they cant make Thurman or Porter or Garcia fight Spence when they want no part of him.
Cant blame Arum at this point. He would have sold Pac out to make TC his next superstar.
You're acting as if Spence has fought anyone worth a damn from his side of the street. He's got all the names over there and hasn't fought any of them either. Is that Bob's fault also?
No I'm not acting like that because we are not discussing Spence. He fought Brook.
It's dumb as f-ck to ask if Spence not fighting Haymon guys is Bob's fault. As a boxing fan, you know the reason Spence hasn't fought Thurman is because he is hurt. You also know he is being positioned to fight the Porter/Garcia winner, which would be the best ww other than he and crawford (since Thurman is still out).
Jose talked real tough with all his homies around stepping to Crawford and Bo Mac. Time for him to back up his machismo **** all that "he's needs more fights" bull****.
Well, if he wants it, let him have it!
Jose talked real tough with all his homies around stepping to Crawford and Bo Mac. Time for him to back up his machismo **** all that "he's needs more fights" bull****.
Yes, I'd have thought Arun would have built benavidez up some more before feeding him to Crawford!
He doesn’t have a choice. He’s got nothing for Crawford.
This is the fight for Crawford (On his side of the street).
Benavidez is NO joke & will give "Bud" the best comp out of ANY of his past opponents.
I don't know why people think this is a joke fight.
I'm kind of surprised he's letting benavidez get cooked by crawford so soon. This can be built to a pretty big fight. He hasn't even tried to make benavidez a star. His brother on the other hand is being guided into stardom the right way.
Yes, I'd have thought Arun would have built benavidez up some more before feeding him to Crawford!
I just missed the thread. Paste a link.
Loma fought Linares, Crawford has fought non TR guys as well. Lets also not pretend Loma/Linares is equal to Spence/Crawford. The equivalent is Mikey/Loma, which Bob has said he will not make, just as he has said he will not make Crawford/Spence until its a 500k Selling PPV.
Promoters are not always to blame but Bob is to blame for these fights not happening.
The logical fight to make is Manny/Crawford unification and that is not being made.
You're acting as if Spence has fought anyone worth a damn from his side of the street. He's got all the names over there and hasn't fought any of them either. Is that Bob's fault also?
Spence will be fighting in a big ppv event With M. Garcia, D. Garcia, K. Thurman and Canelo. Crawford will be fighting in Bob's re-runs. I hope he enjoys his Bob Arum signing bonus and his Timothy Bradley like legacy!
one is 36 and one is 30
one is a 2 division lineal champ , 1 division undisputed unified champ and 3 division champ
and the other is 36 and never was lineal or undisputed
F.uck Larry give it up
Both their resumes aren’t impressive, f.uck Crawford’s trinkets . I’m glad you care more about worthless trinkets beating the likes of Horn , Dulhorme , Burns , Indongo then actually having Crawford fight someone on his level
Gennady also was stuck in boxing purgatory untill he was 30 . The other one has had the backing of the sports biggest promoter essentially their whole career
But guess what both of their CVs suck, but at least there’s a explanation for Gennadys , Buds not so much
Since Gennady got on the scene he’s chased the biggest fights , Has Bud ?
I could care less about what Crawford did at 140 because it was the weakest division in the sport when he was there and he beat Dulhorme , Postol and Indongo to get those straps , None of which are even half way top shelf in the grand scheme of things there nobodies and have all proven that since they fought Bud
Both have subpar resumes
But there’s 2 different reasons why , I don’t know why it’s hard for you to accept that
one is 36 and one is 30
one is a 2 division lineal champ , 1 division undisputed unified champ and 3 division champ
and the other is 36 and never was lineal or undisputed
Naw man dont make excuses for one and slam the other...I dont overrate Crawford yet GGG gets credit for fights he never even fought
Both have subpar resumes
But there’s 2 different reasons why , I don’t know why it’s hard for you to accept that
okay so lomachenko fighting who you call 'a world class welterweight' at 140 is garbage (even though pac would have a size advantage) and a meaningless fight, but crawford fighting him is a good match up, cause he holds a belt? And youre the one saying i have the agenda?
Yes it is garbage. I explained why-its meaningless, at a CW, neither guy's title is on the line, and it's costing us better fights that most fans want. The only people that want this fight are Loma fans looking for an easy win and Manny fans that prefer Manny taking an easier fight rather than getting KTFO by Crawford.
I NEVER posted Crawford/Manny was a good fight. I said it was the logical next fight and gave reasons why. You'd agree with me in any other situation but have decided not to here because of your agenda.
And THEbigdunn it's never gonna be a 500k fight when are u gonna realise these guys don't have star power at all and never will. They've been around the block for a while now. People on the forum barely even talk about them let alone casuals.
Why are you posting this? Bob said this, not me. If you believe this then you should be blaming Bob for Crawford and Spence not fighting. Instead, you blame Crawford and Spence because you are trying to get back at posters you think are their fans all because they fairly criticized GGG's resume and/or the Brook fight.
No, not really. The best should fight the best when there's no reason for them not to. Just like u all say wilders only acceptable fight is Joshua. And don't give me that crap, u all said he was done and now he beats a **** mattysse he's now back? I'd love to hear what u say if Loma fought him....
No, posters say Joshua's only acceptable fight is Wilder because they are the 2 best HWT's in the world.With respect to Spence and Crawford you have posted Thurman has a better resume than both and could be the best Ww, which makes it clear your pushing the fight is agenda driven.
No one claimed he is back. Lets stick to facts-not made up stuff. He is the WBA ww champ and a TR fighter. Crawford beat Horn, most thought Manny did as well but got robbed. Simple and logical.
If Loma fought him it would be garbage because it's a meaningless fight where neither guy would lose their title because the fight would be at 140 as opposed to 2 unification fights-Manny/Crawford and Mikey/Loma- that most fans want that would move the divisions forward.
Benavidez should jump ship or have his people not take this fight. Knowing Benavidez though he'll accept if the offer is made. I remember reading not that long ago that one of his people said he'd like for Benavidez to get more experience under his belt before taking the Crawford fight. 2-3 fights before stepping up would help him imo. But if it were to happen Benavidez is no pushover. He was sparring Pacquiao back in 08 when he was at his prime and Benavidez was only about 16 I believe. We'll see what happens but I would like to see Benavidez get a couple more fights at least before taking on Crawford.
Benavidez didn't do himself any real favors by winning his last fight by 1st round KO. He needs more rounds in before challenging a fighter of Crawford's caliber.