Am I the only one that sees this as a big stunt organised by Frank Warren to draw attention to Fury's next fight vs that Italian guy? Hey, Wilder's side might be in on it too.
Frank and Wilder's team both agree to lend each other a hand - Fury gets publicity for his next fight and Wilder keeps his name in the media / has a more powerful bargaining chip in negotiating with AJ - basically saying to Hearn /AJ 'If you won't fight me, I have other options'.
I think it's clear Eddie Hearn knows it's all a bluff - there is no fuccing way Fury gets in the ring with Wilder this year...NONE!
The promoters get the fans talking and the buzz going - and laugh at the free publicity they are getting. Wilder helps Fury sell PPVs for his next glorified sparring session and Wilder gets what he wants.
Happy to eat my words - but I will say the Fury/Wilder fight 100% is not happening this year
genuine question here but who apart from joshua whyte bellew would get fury the best fight purse in your opinion?
A Wilder fight should get Fury a huge purse, seeing that he is an undefeated champion. The fact that it won't is testament to the cans he has beaten to get that undefeated record.
You said Fury's trying to make the most money in the fastest possible time. If he can beat Wilder, he'll set himself up for big pay days down the line. But in the immediate future, fighting Wilder is not going to make him much money.
genuine question here but who apart from joshua whyte bellew would get fury the best fight purse in your opinion?
well you would certainly have an argument its possible but right now joshua,whyte are too difficult to make with hearn involved and a warren fighter so wilders still his best realistic payday
Not quite, Whyte fight is actually the easiest to make in boxing right now, Eddie is practically begging Wilder to take that fight.
I didn't disappear for years, I just float in and out, check my post history, you're full of **** just like always.
Your patter is ****ing shyte btw lol as i said aberdeen angus anytime your ready to lay down some hard cold cash when finally fury and joshua meet....ill even drive up to your cold fish smelling city to personally bet with you....ill wait around to collect my winnings a return back down to where the skys are blue and feel the warmth of southern sunshine.
I am pretty sure again you will then disapear like a fart in the end only to pop up again after furys second attempt at a comeback and be facing sebastian stroganoff and your be heralding fury as the bees knees again lol.
You were a mug 3 year's ago and your an even bigger mug now.
Where is your mate denium ?
at what point in my post did I say the fight will generate crazy millions and they are both superstars?
its not hard to work out that facing Wilder will give Fury the biggest purse he can earn apart from fights vs joshua and bellew in the UK so he has taken his 3rd best option because he wants to earn as much as possible as quickly as he can
You said Fury's trying to make the most money in the fastest possible time. If he can beat Wilder, he'll set himself up for big pay days down the line. But in the immediate future, fighting Wilder is not going to make him much money.
Do you think it's a calculated move by Warren that if Tyson loses to Wilder, it doesn't jeopardise a bigger domestic (UK) payday against AJ, but in reverse a loss to AJ first could remove a Wilder fight from the equation?
That may be part of it, but just as important is that a loss to Wilder may harm Warren's fighter, but it doesn't give a boost to Warren's rival. A loss to AJ not only harms Warren's fighter, but also greatly enhances the fighter of Warren's chief rival. So in that sense, fighting Wilder is much safer for Warren's business.
Further, Wilder has shown a willingness to do a two fight deal where the rematch would be in the UK. Giving Warren two huge UK PPVs that he controls. For AJ vs Fury, Hearn would insist on Sky PPV. Hearn has made incredibly one sided demands in all discussions for a Wilder or Fury fight and ended up pushing the sides right into each other's arms.
People can be skeptical all they want, but the PPV industry has been told the fight is 99% if Tyson wins next week. So this definitely isn't a publicity stunt. If they're going to try to pull this off on November 17, the PPV providers are going to want at least 10 weeks notice that the fight is definite. There's not a lot of time here.
Do you think it's a calculated move by Warren that if Tyson loses to Wilder, it doesn't jeopardise a bigger domestic (UK) payday against AJ, but in reverse a loss to AJ first could remove a Wilder fight from the equation?
I suppose they have the added advantage of fighting Wilder BEFORE he (Wilder) potentially loses to AJ, and so win or lose they get the biggest payday they can from Wilder while he is undefeated and a belt holder and can always go after that domestic AJ fight.
Still, I can't help but think Fury is going to cash out - I see him losing to Wilder unless there is some miracle and he looks much better against Pianeta, and then maybe he fights Bellew or AJ for a retirement cheque.
you disapeaerd for a few years during the time fury went all bandy and cocaine needy and all of a sudden you have piped back up again with your stupid talk of tyson fury....as i said aberdeen angus lets have a serious bet with the fury joshua fight and lets see who is man enough to back it up.....your ding bat mate denium disapeared along time ago and its time you sewrched im out and go join him.
Fury is pathetic and has zero chance of beating joshua and 80% of losing to wilder.
Now go back to your fishie's
I didn't disappear for years, I just float in and out, check my post history, you're full of **** just like always.
Your patter is ****ing shyte btw lol
Well if you are sceptical then you are a hater, Hearn fanatics and you don’t want this fight to happen because it would make Joshua look bad..... So have heard.
People can be skeptical all they want, but the PPV industry has been told the fight is 99% if Tyson wins next week. So this definitely isn't a publicity stunt. If they're going to try to pull this off on November 17, the PPV providers are going to want at least 10 weeks notice that the fight is definite. There's not a lot of time here.
It's definitely a way to bring attention to Fury-Pianeta
I guess I'm somewhat skeptical of it happening right away....but I do think these two respect each other and want to fight- and now there is big leverage to gain by fighting each other sooner than later so it's very likelyto happen
Well if you are sceptical then you are a hater, Hearn fanatics and you don’t want this fight to happen because it would make Joshua look bad..... So have heard.
maybe not you... but my eyes are everywhere, many hearn fanatics and aj fanatics are hating on youtube, and various boxing sites, even hearn is hating...but ok. u all will complain either way, u are one of the more balanced ones but you are still a fanatic
You are trying to put out that narrative, again I haven’t seen anyone who is “Hating” on this potential fight. No boxing fans are hating on it. Some of you guys are more obsessed with Hearn and Joshua. If everyone doesn’t line up with the Wilder fanatics then you group us in with the Joshua fanatics, I couldn’t careless about Joshua, this is about Fury and Wilder and I too don’t think this fight happens this year, why? Because of all the things listed on Fury’s part. If that fight happens this year I and like many would be shocked. Just because some of us are real doesn’t mean we wish it doesn’t happen. We want big fights as fans and whether fit or not Fury is a massive fight for anyone. Which is what Wilder needs for his resume, some of you guys can’t take the truth, just like some of Joshua backers.
If Fury walks into the ring at 255lbs, and shows that his sharpness in a live fight is anywhere near what he's looked like in the gym footage, there's no longer any reason to drag out the fight any further.
With three camps under his belt, the weight under control, and the skills sharp, fighting another stiff wouldn't help Fury any.
I'd prefer it Not to happen this year .
What be nice is if they have another fight later in the year with Fury facing someone on Wilders undercard . That way Fury can get another fight under his belt .
Fury is all wrong for Wilder, longer arms, better jab, can switch hit, better inside, better movement and balance. Fury is great at taking away peoples best punch etc etc that was easy.
I don't bet on here, I just stand by opinions. I think Fury and Wilder is 50-50, Wilder always has a chance but if Fury is fit he wins.
Fury will beat Joshua if he gets past Wilder, Joshua is easier fight than Wilder for Fury. you disapeaerd for a few years during the time fury went all bandy and cocaine needy and all of a sudden you have piped back up again with your stupid talk of tyson fury....as i said aberdeen angus lets have a serious bet with the fury joshua fight and lets see who is man enough to back it up.....your ding bat mate denium disapeared along time ago and its time you sewrched im out and go join him.
Fury is pathetic and has zero chance of beating joshua and 80% of losing to wilder.
Now go back to your fishie's
Again point out the crying or salt! Lol. You know no one is “Hating” on anything. You want people to believe that narrative, no matter how many times you say it doesn’t make it true. Love the sport and stop dancing to a fighter tune.
maybe not you... but my eyes are everywhere, many hearn fanatics and aj fanatics are hating on youtube, and various boxing sites, even hearn is hating...but ok. u all will complain either way, u are one of the more balanced ones but you are still a fanatic
It's definitely a way to bring attention to Fury-Pianeta
I guess I'm somewhat skeptical of it happening right away....but I do think these two respect each other and want to fight- and now there is big leverage to gain by fighting each other sooner than later so it's very likelyto happen
4th option, Whyte also guarantee more money than Wilder.
well you would certainly have an argument its possible but right now joshua,whyte are too difficult to make with hearn involved and a warren fighter so wilders still his best realistic payday
I could see it not happening next, but they would likely only put it off one fight.
Fury is going to want to get paid for Joshua also and Hearn is going to play hardball there also Wilder is a chip that Fury needs before seeing Joshua just like the other way around to max out that payday.
wilder is all wrong for fury...long arms , quick and quick powerful right arm.
He will launch fury into orbit not because wilder is an all time future but because fury has neve been any good.
In fact how much you wanna wager on it if it takes place.
Fury will get knocked clean out by jooshua and wilder
Name the bet
Fury is all wrong for Wilder, longer arms, better jab, can switch hit, better inside, better movement and balance. Fury is great at taking away peoples best punch etc etc that was easy.
I don't bet on here, I just stand by opinions. I think Fury and Wilder is 50-50, Wilder always has a chance but if Fury is fit he wins.
Fury will beat Joshua if he gets past Wilder, Joshua is easier fight than Wilder for Fury.
Who did Fury fight to prepare him for Klitschko? same with Joshua..... sometimes you roll the dice and see how far your talent and will can take you.
And lets not make out Wilder is some 10 year unbeaten ATG fighter who can't be beaten by someone as naturally talented as Fury, who can outjab and outbox him on his worst day lol Wilder has a punchers chance or hope Fury gasses, Fury will still outbox him now.... even more after another fight and a full camp. wilder is all wrong for fury...long arms , quick and quick powerful right arm.
He will launch fury into orbit not because wilder is an all time future but because fury has neve been any good.
In fact how much you wanna wager on it if it takes place.
Fury will get knocked clean out by jooshua and wilder
Name the bet
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