Thoughts about the HW Division and the Top Contenders, Fury, Wilder, Joshua, Ortiz.

Nothing durable about this either: And Molina had Wilder wobbling all over the damned ring .. Molina, FFS! Ortiz had him doing the chicken dance too, and would have finished him off a Doctor hadn't jumped up onto the ring apron and called an illegal break to allow him time to recover! Wlad knocked him out cold twice in the gym, with 18 gloves and headgear, which is why Wilder refused to fight him to unify the division after he beat Stiffern. Idk why you're bringing up his amateur career? Wilder fought at HW, 91kg in the amateurs not Super Heavy which is 91kg+. If Wilder fought at 91kg in the pros he'd get KTFO. Wilder's right foot got tangled with Molina's left foot which you can clearly see in their fight. Molina actually has KO power too unlike Cunningham-Pajkic, he nearly stopped Arreola in 1 round and knocked Adamek out it took a guy like Vitali TONS of punches before he could do stop both guys. Wilder was never even down against Ortiz & Ortiz hits much harder than Fury. Fury needs accumulative punches to put guys out, his power is honestly questionable. Fury's 2nd best career win is Chisora FFS, not exactly a stacked resume. And the sparring rumors are just that, rumors.

He did get rocked by Chisora in round 2, same against Abell, against Wlad he wasn't exactly rocked but did fade extremely fast once Wlad applied pressure in the 12th. Wilder was a cruiserweight as an amateur duh, he had no durability at 6'7 200lbs. Wilder has been down once against Sconiers in the past 8 years or so, he sustained clean punches from Duhpaus, Stiverne, Molina, Ortiz, etc. Fury has been dropped by a cruiser with 1 stoppage win at HW and another HW with just a 30% Ko ratio, nothing durable about that. Nothing durable about this either: And Molina had Wilder wobbling all over the damned ring .. Molina, FFS! Ortiz had him doing the chicken dance too, and would have finished him off a Doctor hadn't jumped up onto the ring apron and called an illegal break to allow him time to recover! Wlad knocked him out cold twice in the gym, with 18 gloves and headgear, which is why Wilder refused to fight him to unify the division after he beat Stiffern.

Lol i think you're reaching a bit. He definitely wasn't hurt or rocked by Chisora there, he was simply getting out of the way. He didn't even look to hold. He was stumbling into the ropes, even the commentators and crowd went wild. Fury is one of those guys that fights back when he's hurt, he'll get KO'd against Wilder doing that. His punch resistance is far from great as evidenced by the Pajkic-Cunningham knock downs. Defensively you can watch any of his fights and he's getting clipped with right hands.

Chisora 1, time :35. 2nd fight was much more dominant however Chisora had already been KO'd by Haye. Just look at the amount of wild punches thrown by Chisora and the success he was having, Fury very easy to hit. :07 secs, 2nd round, Fury immediately holds clearly hurt, ref breaks up action due to headbutt though 2:48 4th round, eats a right hand, legs buckle, fortunately for Fury Abell is made of glass Against Wlad watch the 12th, Fury was fading fast while Wlad was coming on strong, not exactly rocked but you could see the punches having an effect. Fury is not a defensive master, he's been hit by some wild punches and put down 2x against both Pajkic & Cunningham. Lol i think you're reaching a bit. He definitely wasn't hurt or rocked by Chisora there, he was simply getting out of the way. He didn't even look to hold.

Lol, if you saw Fury get rocked by Chisora, Abel and Wlad, you need to see either a shrink or an optician! Fury is much more durable than Wilder. He's never been stopped, amateur or pro. Wilder was KO'd by a cruiserweight as an amateur, decked twice by journeymen as a pro, and knocked out cold twice by Wlad Klitschko in sparring. He did get rocked by Chisora in round 2, same against Abell, against Wlad he wasn't exactly rocked but did fade extremely fast once Wlad applied pressure in the 12th. Wilder was a cruiserweight as an amateur duh, he had no durability at 6'7 200lbs. Wilder has been down once against Sconiers in the past 8 years or so, he sustained clean punches from Duhpaus, Stiverne, Molina, Ortiz, etc. Fury has been dropped by a cruiser with 1 stoppage win at HW and another HW with just a 30% Ko ratio, nothing durable about that.

Please point me to those 3 in bold. I especially don't remember Chisora giving Fury any trouble at all in their fights. Their second fight was a long sustained one sided beating. Nobody ever got Chisora pulled out by his corner. Chisora 1, time :35. 2nd fight was much more dominant however Chisora had already been KO'd by Haye. Just look at the amount of wild punches thrown by Chisora and the success he was having, Fury very easy to hit. :07 secs, 2nd round, Fury immediately holds clearly hurt, ref breaks up action due to headbutt though 2:48 4th round, eats a right hand, legs buckle, fortunately for Fury Abell is made of glass Against Wlad watch the 12th, Fury was fading fast while Wlad was coming on strong, not exactly rocked but you could see the punches having an effect. Fury is not a defensive master, he's been hit by some wild punches and put down 2x against both Pajkic & Cunningham.

The thing about Fury is he's never been a durable fighter, I've seen him down hard against Cunningham, rocked by Pajkic, Chisora, Abell, and Klitschko. Please point me to those 3 in bold. I especially don't remember Chisora giving Fury any trouble at all in their fights. Their second fight was a long sustained one sided beating. Nobody ever got Chisora pulled out by his corner.

The ref was unfair to Ortiz in the Wilder fight but that doesn't mean Ortiz would have won if the ref handled the fight correctly. That is just guesswork on your part and not a fact. Ortiz still ended up losing by KO and he was floored while Wilder was not.That Ortiz wins a rematch with Wilder is more guesswork on your part. I'll do some guesswork myself. I think you have fat bragging Fury badly overrated and Wilder will knock his fat ass out. Wilder ain't Cunningham.

I'm convinced Wilder beats Fury and by knock out even if Fury is at 100%. The thing about Fury is he's never been a durable fighter, I've seen him down hard against Cunningham, rocked by Pajkic, Chisora, Abell, and Klitschko. I've always said Wlad was incredibly overrated and would be exposed against a tall guy with skill. Fury was able to take away Wlad's tools because he was very predictable, jab, 1-2, occasional left hook, defensively move straight back arms out, hold on the inside. Fury's body was wide open that fight and Wlad threw something like 10 body shots the entire fight. Wilder on the other hand is unpredictable, you have to adjust to his style on the fly, there is no prep for it. Wilder's body punching and inside fighting is light years ahead of Wlad's, he throws counters from awkward angles and most importantly he needs just 1 punch as opposed to Wlad to systematically breaks people down. AJ, he's legit too. The issue with his opponents is that they go into survival mode, Takam for example said he game plan was to survive the first 4-5 rounds before he started throwing. Wlad was in pure survival the first 4 rounds before AJ tired himself out, Parker was running around the ring the entire time etc. AJ-Wilder are great heavies, they'd arguably beat anybody in the history of boxing. Head 2 head I give Wilder the heads up because of their styles, AJ has no head movement, his defense is his offense. Lol, if you saw Fury get rocked by Chisora, Abel and Wlad, you need to see either a shrink or an optician! Fury is much more durable than Wilder. He's never been stopped, amateur or pro. Wilder was KO'd by a cruiserweight as an amateur, decked twice by journeymen as a pro, and knocked out cold twice by Wlad Klitschko in sparring.

I'm convinced Wilder beats Fury and by knock out even if Fury is at 100%. The thing about Fury is he's never been a durable fighter, I've seen him down hard against Cunningham, rocked by Pajkic, Chisora, Abell, and Klitschko. I've always said Wlad was incredibly overrated and would be exposed against a tall guy with skill. Fury was able to take away Wlad's tools because he was very predictable, jab, 1-2, occasional left hook, defensively move straight back arms out, hold on the inside. Fury's body was wide open that fight and Wlad threw something like 10 body shots the entire fight. Wilder on the other hand is unpredictable, you have to adjust to his style on the fly, there is no prep for it. Wilder's body punching and inside fighting is light years ahead of Wlad's, he throws counters from awkward angles and most importantly he needs just 1 punch as opposed to Wlad to systematically breaks people down. AJ, he's legit too. The issue with his opponents is that they go into survival mode, Takam for example said he game plan was to survive the first 4-5 rounds before he started throwing. Wlad was in pure survival the first 4 rounds before AJ tired himself out, Parker was running around the ring the entire time etc. AJ-Wilder are great heavies, they'd arguably beat anybody in the history of boxing. Head 2 head I give Wilder the heads up because of their styles, AJ has no head movement, his defense is his offense.

I have no idea why Tyson Fury has this reputation as some kind of master technical boxer. Is it the Klitschko fight where he landed something like 25% of his punches? Klitschko looked like garbage in that fight but Fury didn't look that much better in my opinion. I think Wilder ices him pretty early in the fight.