So lets say this fight does indeed happen in November or December in Vegas, what kind of numbers will it do in the UK? Obviously the fight will be in the early morning, but can it get to 200k or that number is too high? Joshua fighting that early in the morning would still get close to, if not surpass the million mark, but his stardom is on another level.
Tell me what you guys think.
How many ppvs Fury/Wilder does in Vegas.
Cool, but it does matter as it potentially impacts the next negotiations with Joshua if Wilder is to win.
redmish, do you think that is due to the programming before the fight? Because you don't have to be a subscriber of BT Sports to purchase the PPV.
So lets say this fight does indeed happen in November or December in Vegas, what kind of numbers will it do in the UK? Obviously the fight will be in the early morning, but can it get to 200k or that number is too high? Joshua fighting that early in the morning would still get close to, if not surpass the million mark, but his stardom is on another level.
Tell me what you guys think.
We don’t care tbh...
You didn’t add in any sponsorship deals, think your figures are conservative.... I think total gross revenue nearer $100m
When you say 100 million, are you talking about before or after cable distributors get their share? No chance it generates that after distributions.
Sure I didn't add in sponsorship figures and you can add that to the mix, but the main source of revenue is coming off the PPV buys and live gate.
My numbers couldn't be that off as Hearn basically agreed that Wilder is probably making around 15 million and Fury over 10 million.
Because I'm trying to see the type of revenue this fight can generate and the type of purses both fighters will be making.
You didn’t add in any sponsorship deals, think your figures are conservative.... I think total gross revenue nearer $100m
on HBO though.
Not sure how many people would've bought Fury vs Klitschko on PPV on a Saturday night in the US.
HBO here is irrelevant. It was a UK PPV not a PPV in the states. What is relevant is that this time it will be a 4-5 am PPV fit the Brits, not a 11 PM PPV. Big difference there.
not a good reference though
fury - klit was primetime
wilder fury will be 5 in the morning
Right, that is an apples to oranges comparison. I do wonder though with Wilder's name being linked to Joshua and the UK public knowing the winner of this fight will be THE fight for Joshua in 2019, if that will drive up the buys. If what Hearn is saying right that Wilder will potentially get 15 million, and Fury will get 10+, then this needs to sell well in the UK to have any chance of achieving that goal. Unless they are ready to lose a lot of money on this PPV.
500k in the UK is huge though. That's a little over $13 million revenue generated from the PPVs. Well, $6.5 million after the cable distributors get their share.
If it does 300k in the states and 500k in the UK, both fighters will be walking away with $10+ million. And if Wilder gets a 60/40 split his way, he could get around $15 million. Imagine if he beats Fury and then gets the Joshua showdown? Dude will be walking away with 35-40 million after those two fights. And pretty much the same for Fury if he wins.
And just saw an interview with Hearn saying he's heard Fury will be getting 10 million and Wilder probably 15 million. Basically what I said in this post. But it's still going to have to take around 300k PPV sales in the states and decent amount in the UK.
In the U.S. If it's promoted properly it could easily do anywhere in the range from 700,000-1.2mil PPV buys. However, one is going to have to grind hard in order for this fight to sale.
One of the bonuses of this main event is that both fighters are loud and love to talk. They can make several public appearances and TV, internet and radio interviews together in order to create enough buzz awareness and interests in this fight.
You got keep the public informed and excited. Travel to every corner of the globe and make it a huge spectacle; From the U.S. all the way to Singapore.
Same situation here, my understanding is for Wilder/Fury to be held in Vegas. The hope for Wilder to become a star. Fury gunna want a huge guarantee aswell, well youd hope, could be commiting career suicide.
Depending on how it does in the UK, he could walk away with 10+ million. Not bad at all.
Well, one early November and another mid-December isn't bad.
The $50 million offer was banking on the PPV being held in Vegas. Obviously the hope is Wilder would win and become a star.
Same situation here, my understanding is for Wilder/Fury to be held in Vegas. The hope for Wilder to become a star. Fury gunna want a huge guarantee aswell, well youd hope, could be commiting career suicide.
Theyre both being talked about as PPVs Nov/Dec, doubt theyd do 2 so close to each other. They were willing to spend $50mil purse on the Joshua gamble to make Wilder a PPV star, always doubted theyd have recouped all the money. Surely they could just shift over all the cash to the 2 fights, and hope Wilder and Spence win, gain 2 controllable PPV guys going forward
Well, one early November and another mid-December isn't bad.
The $50 million offer was banking on the PPV being held in Vegas. Obviously the hope is Wilder would win and become a star.
They won't stick those two fights on the same PPV.
Well, putting them on PPV kind of covers them. The purses can be sales related.
SHO gets to keep their remaining budget for the rest of the year while putting these two cards on PPV.
Theyre both being talked about as PPVs Nov/Dec, doubt theyd do 2 so close to each other. They were willing to spend $50mil purse on the Joshua gamble to make Wilder a PPV star, always doubted theyd have recouped all the money. Surely they could just shift over all the cash to the 2 fights, and hope Wilder and Spence win, gain 2 controllable PPV guys going forward
So whats the plan here with Showtime? They gunna gamble a fortune, stick Wilder/Fury and Spence/Garcia on the same PPV, and hope they get a couple of PPV guys out of it going forward?
Right. Putting them all on there is the only way this is a PPV. Could probably do 400K+ as well!
So whats the plan here with Showtime? They gunna gamble a fortune, stick Wilder/Fury and Spence/Garcia on the same PPV, and hope they get a couple of PPV guys out of it going forward?
They won't stick those two fights on the same PPV.
Well, putting them on PPV kind of covers them. The purses can be sales related.
SHO gets to keep their remaining budget for the rest of the year while putting these two cards on PPV.
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