https://i.imgur.com/9d0ckIb.jpg
Still no logical explanation til this day as to why Pacroid requested a powerful painkilling injection prior to entering the ring against Floyd.
These pictures prove beyond doubt there was no shoulder injury to speak of. with a torn rotator cuff and he's smiling, both arms up taking selfies. then after the fight he raises both arms again. and then this happens..
https://i.imgur.com/R4iGVjr.jpg
Toradol is what NFL players get injected with prior to games to play through concussions and hard tackles. one player described he could literally run through walls on toradol and not feel pain. but it also comes with side effects and NFL players have sued for not being informed of the risks
read about that here >> https://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2011/12/former_nfl_players_say_they_di.html
read more about toradol's heavy use in the NFL >> https://www.sbnation.com/2016/8/3/12310124/comfortably-numb-the-nfl-fell-in-love-with-a-painkiller-it-barely-knew
the shoulder injury hoax has a couple different versions.
· according to Arum and Pacroid this injury dates all the way back to 2009 in a "jet ski mishap." and that it was a non issue until the 4th round vs Floyd in 2015. LOL
· then they said the injury occured during training camp while in sparring.
if the first version is true that he wasn't injured up until the 4th round that means he entered the ring perfectly healthy and had zero justification to request a painkiller injection.
if the second version is true that he suffered the injury in camp why not report this to NSAC to be approved of the injection. USADA had nothing to do with that yet the Pac turds bash them for it.
Here's what Freddie Roach said about the "injured" arm
https://i.imgur.com/CQrYtHm.jpghttps://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jan/22/manny-pacquaio-floyd-mayweather-boxing-donald-trump-shoulder
In the dressing room it wasn't a problem at all. - Roach.
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A non issue throughout training camp.
Like I said there was no kill mode there, the last 3 rounds was Floyd going into pretty boy mode, not allowing a glove to touch him without earning it, and if Manny did connect come back with a quick counter...
It was moreso Floyd showing his levels the last 3 rounds, toying with Manny, and Manny felt that shame, u saw it on his face...he saw levels he didn't know exist... Manny was so shamed and embarrassed he made up a excuse when there was no need, well that's what kids do when they play the kid down the street in ball and find out everything u do against everyone else don't work
You're delusional. Floyd did nothing but play defense and Manny was hurt. That's why Floyd Sr. was so worried about the decision. Because Floyd didn't do sh@t but stay on his bike. He barely even hit Manny with anything other than jabs. I agree he won but it was only because Manny couldn't fight his fight after the 4th round. Toying with him my a55.
Lol! Manny didn't have a scratch on his face!
Lol @ a beating! :friday:
Like I said there was no kill mode there, the last 3 rounds was Floyd going into pretty boy mode, not allowing a glove to touch him without earning it, and if Manny did connect come back with a quick counter...
It was moreso Floyd showing his levels the last 3 rounds, toying with Manny, and Manny felt that shame, u saw it on his face...he saw levels he didn't know exist... Manny was so shamed and embarrassed he made up a excuse when there was no need, well that's what kids do when they play the kid down the street in ball and find out everything u do against everyone else don't work
Lmaoo are u kidding me? the #1 Pound for Pound boxer (2009) in a skii accident is not "relevant"??
We got proof of Thurmans car accident in a few days.
You provided no link to confirm a jet skii accident.. you lose. cumstain.
and how the fck are you gonna compare yourself to one of the most famous athletes in the world? yet more diarrhea.
I'm giving out links to literally EVERYTHING I'm typing. all youre replying with is diarrhea/your opinions.
1. Pacroid said it was from 2009 and he fought through it all these years.
2. Roach said the arm was a "non issue" in camp and in dressing room. why would he say this? this is already after the fight.
3. If he was injured in sparring and hid it he is guilty of perjury and could've went to jail for 2-4 years. thats why the story changed to he was perfectly healthy and the injury was from round 4.
4. If he was hurt in round 4 why is it he never stopped using the right arm the remainder of the fight? why no mention of it in the corner? literally nothing.
Still waiting on that 2009 link...
MANNY PACQUIAO IN A JET SKII ACCIDENT.. nobody ever hears about it... then you say "it is irrelevant" LMAOO:ok:
Either you are the world's worst driver (i'm considering that possibility) or have never jet skied before.
People fall off jet skis all the time, you can't hardly spend a weekend riding one without several falls. It is very unusual (or should be) to have a serious enough car accident that someone is injured. The former usually results with someone taking an ibuprofen, the latter with a police report, insurance claims and lawyers.
Lmaooo
https://i.imgur.com/mTR27PB.pnghttps://www.philstar.com/sports/2015/08/11/1487194/mannys-miraculous-recovery
I NEVER SAW A DOCTOR!!
EXPLAIN THAT YOU PACSTAINS.
https://media.giphy.com/media/pGm1AyKBDFKSI/giphy.gif
So you think a world-renowned surgeon who performs these surgeries for the highest paid athletes and celebrities (and has a long wait list of wealthy clients) is going to jeopardize his license to lie about Pacquiao's shoulder and perform unnecessary surgery just to help him strengthen an alibi?
The same fighter who was just diagnosed with a heart condition a week prior to the Matthysse fight and told he shouldn't fight, that's the guy you think faked a shoulder injury?
The injury was exacerbated in the 4th round. Not all shoulder injuries are alike and not all those who have them will function in the same manner. Why else would be ask for a shot in that shoulder just prior to the fight? Because he wants to numb just that shoulder?
The only sketchy one in that fight was Floyd, who was caught with an illegal IV, so now you Floyd-bots need to deflect his cheating and crappy performance and try to blame Pac. LMAO! Typical.
No doubt about it. Like Floyd even needed an IV making 147.
I call BS!
Manny took a serious beating the last 3 rounds; luckily that was a old no kill mode Floyd....He was Zoned in then
Lol! Manny didn't have a scratch on his face!
Lol @ a beating! :friday:
that's not "common knowledge" d-ckhead.
I provide links for everything.
And I know you're referring to a supposed April 4th, 2015 sparring session correct?
trainer Freddie Roach said: "To be honest, 16 rounds of mitts today. I've never seen him hit so hard. He's ready to go."
EXPLAIN THAT YOU CUMSTAIN.
why didn't Roach or Pacroid mention the sparring session after the fight?? THEIR STORY was there was no injury until round 4.
so which is it??
you can pay a sparring partner to say anything. I'm quoting Pacroid and Roach. the two main characters here.
This is a 2009 injury that didn't affect him in any fight until Floyd? your peanut brain ass really buys that?
No more diarrhea from you. Post me a link FROM 2009 detailing Pacroid's jet ski injury?? go ahead. start digging.
Why no surgery in 2009?
if the injury occured in round 4 why did he continue to use his right hand perfectly fine the remainder of the fight?
why no injury story to Max Kellerman postfight??
come on you Pacstain. if you reply you better have some links FROM 2009 detailing the Jet skii accident.
No links and this little debate is over cumstain. Im tired of slapping you idiots upside the head with facts and sources and all I get is diarrhea in return.
BRING LINKS, SOURCES.. or GTFOH. :fu2:
Old common boxing knowledge. You're ignorant. Piss off :fu2:
It is irrelevant how or when the original injury occurred. I played baseball for years with a slight meniscus tear (don't know for sure when it happened) right up until one day when I could not. That is how most athletic injuries are, they go from manageable chronic conditions to unmanageable ones literally overnight or even in an instant.
Pac had his shoulder examined and repaired by the same surgeon who examined and performed surgery on Kobe Bryant and Tom Brady among others. That IS a well documented injury.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1eqqiTpk-Y
Why the desperation? (take 2)
Lmaoo are u kidding me? the #1 Pound for Pound boxer (2009) in a skii accident is not "relevant"??
We got proof of Thurmans car accident in a few days.
You provided no link to confirm a jet skii accident.. you lose. cumstain.
and how the fck are you gonna compare yourself to one of the most famous athletes in the world? yet more diarrhea.
I'm giving out links to literally EVERYTHING I'm typing. all youre replying with is diarrhea/your opinions.
1. Pacroid said it was from 2009 and he fought through it all these years.
2. Roach said the arm was a "non issue" in camp and in dressing room. why would he say this? this is already after the fight.
3. If he was injured in sparring and hid it he is guilty of perjury and could've went to jail for 2-4 years. thats why the story changed to he was perfectly healthy and the injury was from round 4.
4. If he was hurt in round 4 why is it he never stopped using the right arm the remainder of the fight? why no mention of it in the corner? literally nothing.
Still waiting on that 2009 link...
MANNY PACQUIAO IN A JET SKII ACCIDENT.. nobody ever hears about it... then you say "it is irrelevant" LMAOO:ok:
So you think a world-renowned surgeon who performs these surgeries for the highest paid athletes and celebrities (and has a long wait list of wealthy clients) is going to jeopardize his license to lie about Pacquiao's shoulder and perform unnecessary surgery just to help him strengthen an alibi?
The same fighter who was just diagnosed with a heart condition a week prior to the Matthysse fight and told he shouldn't fight, that's the guy you think faked a shoulder injury?
The injury was exacerbated in the 4th round. Not all shoulder injuries are alike and not all those who have them will function in the same manner. Why else would be ask for a shot in that shoulder just prior to the fight? Because he wants to numb just that shoulder?
The only sketchy one in that fight was Floyd, who was caught with an illegal IV, so now you Floyd-bots need to deflect his cheating and crappy performance and try to blame Pac. LMAO! Typical.
Hey cumstain. Im not a fanboy. Im simply a fan. I have like 2-3 threads about Floyd's IV so don't come at me with fanboy mess.
This is about Mannys bogus injury not Floyd's IV. stay on topic.
This is an injury from 2009 in a jet skii accident that Pacroid has been fighting through all these years.. but on May 2nd 2015 his shoulder collapsed??
Provide a link FROM 2009 to confirm the jet skii accident Pacroid said caused this.
I'm posting links to everything im typing. All I'm gettin in replies is diarrhea.
Why is it no boxing fan on earth knew Pacquiao had a jet skii accident in 2009?? not even Filipino media knew of it and they will write articles about literally anything Manny does.
Provide a link FROM 2009.. ill wait
if he was able to fight through it all these years why did it become an issue vs Floyd?? you seriously dont see the bullsh-t in that?
Freddie Roach said there no issue with arm. Neither in training camp or the dressing room.
Their original story was that he was injured in sparring and kept it a secret. this opened them up to perjury lawsuits. so the story changed to he was perfectly healthy goin in and the injury occured in round 4.
There is no evidence to support none of these versions. all you can reply with is diarrhea.
Why no surgery in 2009?
Why no mention of injury to Max Kellerman when Max told him to his face he got humiliated?
Why isn't the story consistent??
Bring facts (sources, links) to prove he was in a jet skii accident in 2009. I'll wait ...
It is irrelevant how or when the original injury occurred. I played baseball for years with a slight meniscus tear (don't know for sure when it happened) right up until one day when I could not. That is how most athletic injuries are, they go from manageable chronic conditions to unmanageable ones literally overnight or even in an instant.
Pac had his shoulder examined and repaired by the same surgeon who examined and performed surgery on Kobe Bryant and Tom Brady among others. That IS a well documented injury.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1eqqiTpk-Y
Why the desperation? (take 2)
You are not a professional who needs his body working at 100% to make a living. Big difference.
You said injuries go from manageable to unmanageable in an instant... yes that is true, and thats exactly why a professional athelete would NEVER do what Pac did and let the injury go untreated for years.
Anybody with half a brain would tell Pac listen, get surgery now, clean up what needs to be cleaned up, because in the middle of a fight, it will let you down and you will lose this fight because of it, and you dont want to lose a fight over this.
do I have to be a doctor to spot a lie? whats your issue with the thread. what did i post thats incorrect. i posted links for everything.
this is supposedly an injury that dates back to 2009 and we hear nothing of it until Arum mentions it in the Mayweather postfight press conference in 2015. you don't smell the bullsh-t?
why didn't the surgery take place in 2009 after the "jet ski mishap"?
so he was able to beat Clottey, Marquez, Margarito, Bradley, Algieri and Rios with this injury.. so why did it cripple him vs Floyd?
their versions of how it happened changes all the time. do you need to be a doctor to realize that?
If it occurred in round 4 doesn't that mean he was perfectly healthy entering the ring? so why request a powerul painkiller injection?
So you think a world-renowned surgeon who performs these surgeries for the highest paid athletes and celebrities (and has a long wait list of wealthy clients) is going to jeopardize his license to lie about Pacquiao's shoulder and perform unnecessary surgery just to help him strengthen an alibi?
The same fighter who was just diagnosed with a heart condition a week prior to the Matthysse fight and told he shouldn't fight, that's the guy you think faked a shoulder injury?
The injury was exacerbated in the 4th round. Not all shoulder injuries are alike and not all those who have them will function in the same manner. Why else would be ask for a shot in that shoulder just prior to the fight? Because he wants to numb just that shoulder?
The only sketchy one in that fight was Floyd, who was caught with an illegal IV, so now you Floyd-bots need to deflect his cheating and crappy performance and try to blame Pac. LMAO! Typical.
The fight is over why is it that Floymos cant accept the fact that Pacquiao was washed up already lost and knocked out and even injured when Floyd fought him, who cares, dont go lying and create a conspiracy just to give Floyd full credit.
the fight was boring, Floyd was scared, and his punch output was at his lowest, the pressure was on Floyd not Manny, and Floyd didnt deliver Pac had no zero pressure because as Floyd fans say he was washed up bum, so Floyd couldnt outdo marquez or Morales or even Bradley, he barely touched Pac with anyting
sad that his fans are trying to exaggerate the win, why not be honest it was a **** fight should have been a draw
do something with your life and be someone dont live vicariously through another black man, are you a female or man with a father?
"well documented injury"
Pacroid said it happened in 2009 in a "jet ski mishap". link me to any 2009 article about Manny getting injured while jet skiing. I'll wait..
Roach said it was a "non issue" in training camp and the dressing room.
yet another version has Manny saying the injury began bothering him FIVE DAYS before the Floyd fight with no mention of any sparring session.
https://i.imgur.com/ef1eRwK.pnghttp://fastbreak.com.ph/pacquiao-got-shoulder-injury-riding-a-jet-ski-in-gensan/
I provide links for everything.
Provide your link that this was a "well documented injury".
the #1 Pound for Pound fighter (2009) gets injured while jet skiing and nobody hears about it until May 2, 2015.
but I will give you a chance to support your diarrhea with facts. post some links FROM 2009 to support your claim this was a "well documented injury".
Notice Pacroid said "it has bothered him since then." so he was able to defeat Clottey, Margarito, Marquez, Bradley, Rios & Algieri but vs Floyd this 2009 injury cripples him???
Why no surgery in 2009??
if you reply with zero links this little debate is over.
NO MORE DIARRHEA. you said this was "well documented" provide a link from 2009...
:burnout:
It is irrelevant how or when the original injury occurred. I played baseball for years with a slight meniscus tear (don't know for sure when it happened) right up until one day when I could not. That is how most athletic injuries are, they go from manageable chronic conditions to unmanageable ones literally overnight or even in an instant.
Pac had his shoulder examined and repaired by the same surgeon who examined and performed surgery on Kobe Bryant and Tom Brady among others. That IS a well documented injury.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1eqqiTpk-Y
Why the desperation? (take 2)
Pacquiao shoulder injury still exists today. That was just Roach mentioned when interviewed before Pacquiao - Matthysee fight. And we all know he and Pacquiao are not in good terms.
Boom! Case closed.
Hey you dumb f@ck, it's common knowledge that Manny hurt it in the training camp for the FMJ fight and requested the shot BEFORE the fight and hurt it again in the 4th round.
Go get the basics of the situation before you even next time you twit.
This is old a55 news and is well documented. :fu2:
that's not "common knowledge" d-ckhead.
I provide links for everything.
And I know you're referring to a supposed April 4th, 2015 sparring session correct?
trainer Freddie Roach said: "To be honest, 16 rounds of mitts today. I've never seen him hit so hard. He's ready to go."
EXPLAIN THAT YOU CUMSTAIN.
why didn't Roach or Pacroid mention the sparring session after the fight?? THEIR STORY was there was no injury until round 4.
so which is it??
you can pay a sparring partner to say anything. I'm quoting Pacroid and Roach. the two main characters here.
This is a 2009 injury that didn't affect him in any fight until Floyd? your peanut brain ass really buys that?
No more diarrhea from you. Post me a link FROM 2009 detailing Pacroid's jet ski injury?? go ahead. start digging.
Why no surgery in 2009?
if the injury occured in round 4 why did he continue to use his right hand perfectly fine the remainder of the fight?
why no injury story to Max Kellerman postfight??
come on you Pacstain. if you reply you better have some links FROM 2009 detailing the Jet skii accident.
No links and this little debate is over cumstain. Im tired of slapping you idiots upside the head with facts and sources and all I get is diarrhea in return.
BRING LINKS, SOURCES.. or GTFOH. :fu2:
Pacquiao shoulder injury still exists today. That was just Roach mentioned when interviewed before Pacquiao - Matthysee fight. And we all know he and Pacquiao are not in good terms.
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