Is Mikey on a HOF trajectory?

mayweather/corrales went 10 rounds not 5. so even with Google you still dont know wtf you're talking about. and my live boxing knowledge starts with tyson vs Douglas My mistake, lol. Floyd basically beating on Corrales for the whole fight had me crossed up, lol. The rest of the point still holds, though.

Lol. Ranks got nothing to do with it, when folks have eyes, make a decision, and put money down on the table. Folks looked at Corrales, looked at Mayweather, and their money said that it would be a close fight that Floyd should edge, and Floyd obliterated Corrales in 5 rounds. lol, you don't know **** about ****. Floyd turned pro after the Olympics, and then basically had a 20-year run where he was either the best fighter on the planet or in the top 5, with maybe three fights where folks thought he might win close (don't know the odds for Genaro Hernandez, 6:5 favorite against Corrales, and the first Castillo fight). If you honestly want to sit here and argue boxing knowledge, we can do that; my live boxing memory starts with Nelson-Leija 2. What about you? mayweather/corrales went 10 rounds not 5. so even with Google you still dont know wtf you're talking about. and my live boxing knowledge starts with tyson vs Douglas

People are way too critical of current-day fighters. Mikey Garcia has had a great career so far. People forget he had 30 months out of action too.

so let me guess, you werent watching boxing back then. Because if you were then you would know corrales was ranked higher than floyd on the p4p list. and that floyd was supposes to get wiped out that night. hbo telecast mentions the odds. i dont need google. I actially remember fights past 2010 buddy. amd you still didnt name the fighter that would be favorited over floyd from his era that he didnt fight Lol. Ranks got nothing to do with it, when folks have eyes, make a decision, and put money down on the table. Folks looked at Corrales, looked at Mayweather, and their money said that it would be a close fight that Floyd should edge, and Floyd obliterated Corrales in 5 rounds. lol, you don't know **** about ****. Floyd turned pro after the Olympics, and then basically had a 20-year run where he was either the best fighter on the planet or in the top 5, with maybe three fights where folks thought he might win close (don't know the odds for Genaro Hernandez, 6:5 favorite against Corrales, and the first Castillo fight). If you honestly want to sit here and argue boxing knowledge, we can do that; my live boxing memory starts with Nelson-Leija 2. What about you?

Isn't the fact that he is a 4 division champ already enough to put him in there? I mean even Broner should be.

3kingsboxing, roundbyround, and Sherdog say that you are full of ****; 6:5 Floyd as of fight night so let me guess, you werent watching boxing back then. Because if you were then you would know corrales was ranked higher than floyd on the p4p list. and that floyd was supposes to get wiped out that night. hbo telecast mentions the odds. i dont need google. I actially remember fights past 2010 buddy. amd you still didnt name the fighter that would be favorited over floyd from his era that he didnt fight

Diego Corrales was the favorite and higher ranked p4p fighter the night floyd destroyed him. Now name me a fighter who floyd would have been an underdog to? 3kingsboxing, roundbyround, and Sherdog say that you are full of ****; 6:5 Floyd as of fight night

When has Floyd ever been an underdog in a fight? Diego Corrales was the favorite and higher ranked p4p fighter the night floyd destroyed him. Now name me a fighter who floyd would have been an underdog to?

Loma in that same boat. LOOOLLLLL, that statement is so wrong, its laughable. Mikey's resume is incomparable to Loma's resume. Loma didnt just *talk* about Linares, he fought him. Russell, Axeman, Rigo...and he's done this in 5 years in the game. So what if he stayed out of the pros until he was older? True, by staying amateur, he may have avoided a loss when he was still green (as what happened w/ Siri). But what matters to me is that once he turned pro - HE MAKES GOOD FIGHTS, w/ challenging opponents. Mikey's got 10 years in and his resume will be Siri, Broner & (hopefully) Easter. In half the time, Loma has done twice as much as Mikey. AND LOOOLL at whoever said that Broner will be in the HOF. lets compare. broner vs russell salido vs linares walters vs easter we wont count rigo since he was 2 weight classes smaller where is the difference in resume? where is the hall of famer that loma beat? who is the guy that loma beat that makes him elite? loma is doing what a 30 yr old fighter should be doing. and broner has won titles in 4 weight classes. he is overrated to me but there isnt a 4 weight champ thats not in the hall of fame.

When has Floyd ever been an underdog in a fight? He hasn't been, that Im aware of. So, what's your point? My point was that Mikey has never sought out dangerous fights. I guess you could say the same of Floyd. Was Pac Floyd's most dangerous fight? But Floyd beat so many good & great fighters (Chico, JLC, Cotto, Chino, Pac, etc etc) that he is a slamdunk HOF. Mikey's resume is IN NO WAY COMPARABLE to Floyds. Currently, he is borderline HOF, IMO.

Reading is fundamental. I never said betting lines determines who gets into the HOF. I was pointing out that Mikey has never been an underdog in a fight to push against the view that he is "courageous" and willing to fight anyone. Yes, of course betting lines have nothing to do w entrance to the HOF. The resume determines HOF. And so far, Mikey's resume is borderline HOF. Best wins are Siri, Broner, hopefully Easter on Sat. He needs to step up his comp to be a slam dunk for the HOF When has Floyd ever been an underdog in a fight?

I mean Lipinets is a good fighter, a stiff test for anyone at 140, but I don't see him as tipping the balance to the HOF. If you add some more good wins at 140, then yes, but one win against Lipinets? Nah

Lipinets puts him over the top Lol please tell me this is a joke.

I think so but he's got a long way to go

Mikey Garcia is an undefeated 4-weight world champion, who likely beats Lomachenko at 135lbs (the skills conversation is what it is, but Mikey Garcia still has destructive power at 135, while Lomachenko's heavy power basically stopped at 130) to seal the division, while being the likely favorite at 140lb over every fighter not named Prograis or Crawford. 147 is likely too much for him, but if he becomes the 135lb and 140lb kingpin, after Winn world titles at 130 and 126, while still being unbeaten, he's in the hall on the first ballot whenever he's ready to go. Floyd was maybe the underdog when he fought Genaro Hernandez and Jose Luis Castillo the first time. If you want to use the betting line as grounds to keep Floyd out, you're a fool. Remilard, Salido, JuanMa, Rocky Martinez, Broner, and Lipinets now, with a likely slate of Easter Jr, Lomachenko, Prograis/Ramirez/etc in the near future. Not a bad run at all Reading is fundamental. I never said betting lines determines who gets into the HOF. I was pointing out that Mikey has never been an underdog in a fight to push against the view that he is "courageous" and willing to fight anyone. Yes, of course betting lines have nothing to do w entrance to the HOF. The resume determines HOF. And so far, Mikey's resume is borderline HOF. Best wins are Siri, Broner, hopefully Easter on Sat. He needs to step up his comp to be a slam dunk for the HOF

Mikey Garcia is an undefeated 4-weight world champion, who likely beats Lomachenko at 135lbs (the skills conversation is what it is, but Mikey Garcia still has destructive power at 135, while Lomachenko's heavy power basically stopped at 130) to seal the division, while being the likely favorite at 140lb over every fighter not named Prograis or Crawford. 147 is likely too much for him, but if he becomes the 135lb and 140lb kingpin, after Winn world titles at 130 and 126, while still being unbeaten, he's in the hall on the first ballot whenever he's ready to go. Floyd was maybe the underdog when he fought Genaro Hernandez and Jose Luis Castillo the first time. If you want to use the betting line as grounds to keep Floyd out, you're a fool. Remilard, Salido, JuanMa, Rocky Martinez, Broner, and Lipinets now, with a likely slate of Easter Jr, Lomachenko, Prograis/Ramirez/etc in the near future. Not a bad run at all Mickey only fights Lomachenko, Prograis/Ramirez in your dreams, you may as well include Spence in that fantasy.

I would love for Bud to fight either Spence or Garcia. The guy has more talent than either of those two, he'll go down as one of the greatest boxers in a couple decades. Garcia especially would serve his career well to avoid Bud at all costs. :boxing: Bud would crucify Mikey and I think Mickey knows it.

He’s already there Lipinets puts him over the top

Hard to say but he did beat Lipinets and he called out Spence so he's got that going.

Is Crawford HOF material already because he hasn't really beaten any top name other than a overhyped Gamboa. Yes he was undisputed at 140, but he didn't face and beat any elite fighter for those titles. It's on par with what Mikey has done to be a 4 division champ. I think both Crawford and Mikey are in the same boat. I would love for Bud to fight either Spence or Garcia. The guy has more talent than either of those two, he'll go down as one of the greatest boxers in a couple decades. Garcia especially would serve his career well to avoid Bud at all costs. :boxing: