Do you rate Abel Sanchez as a trainer?

Nothing Sanchez could have said to prevent a complete washing of Gassiev. He did tell him to go for the KO in the last 3 rounds or so, but Gassiev wasn't even close to accomplishing that. Go for the KO is a vague instruction as is saying go out there and kick his ass. You can't give instructions like that against a good technical fighter like Uysk

where was everyone calling him overrated when gassiev beat dorticos? his fighter lost to a better more experienced fighter, deal with it. Maybe actually read what's being said before making a stupid post like this. Nobody denies that Uysk was better...

Of course his guys come in good shape, its PED city over in the eastern bloc.

No, I rate him as a carpenter Even left him a review on Angie's list

Abel sucks. His best fighters in Terry Norris and GGG were already decorated amateurs before turning pro.

tbh every time i listen to his corner advice during a fight where his fighter is not doing well, he says the opposite of what is needed... but then again the sucess he's had with his fighters shows he must be doing something right?

His philosophy. Is my fighters make the other fighter adjust to them We don't adjust. Is it just me or does anyone else find that somewhat short sighted. I'm also tired of seeing almost all of the clips coming out of his gym of Golovkin hitting the pads. Does he teach anying other than punching?? Sanchez has a system but if the system doesn't work on a particular fughter then what? I'm not a fan of Sanchez.

I find his mustache incredibly annoying, so yeah....he's overrated.

I mean, he’s obviously doing something right but people have to keep in mind a trainer is just that. Theyre not miracle workers. Sometimes making a guy be the best version of himself is all they can do. Not everyone is suited to learning new things and becoming the next Floyd (for example). With some guys, that’s about as good as they’ll ever be and that’s just the reality of it. Sometimes all you can do is keep morale up if your fighter has nothing for the other guy. I remember Roach in the Chavez Jr and Martinez fight literally saying (mid fight) “he’s just too fast.” When your guy can’t pull counter like Floyd...you dont ask him to pull counter like Floyd

He's like a typical sadistic poster on here. Sat in the corner jacking off, eyes glazed, lights on and nobodies at home murmuring ''kill him, kill him, kill him!"

He sucks. Another hack that's never boxed and offers zero tactical information its just stupidly vague **** like ''apply more pressure'', ''go for the knockout''. Never does he explain how. What they need to adjust, set up, an opponents tendencies, what to look out for. He's just living through GGG and any half decent trainer would of got just as much out of GGG with the pedigree, ability and commitment he has. He'd be twice the beast he is under a Robert Garcia for example. He'd actually be the fighter his fans had hoped he was. He ruined Terry Norris, GGGs limitations have been shown time and time again. Ponamarev was once promising, Gassiev just looked as limited of a fighter as you'll ever see. He just has an eye for good talent and has been very fortunate. A conditioning coach, an egomaniac whose been fortunate enough to have talent come his way. A glorified Frankenstein who makes fighters do silly neck and jaw exercises rather than honing their skills. All he does tries to create zombies. He's a sadistic that spent his former life getting pitbulls to fight and kill each other.

I really do think he gives the right advices. the problem I think Its in the gym, I suppose they dont really train for that counter styles

For me it’s not a one size shoe fits all type of argument. You can see how Virgil with ward was a fabulous duo. But if you see the rest of the stable, the fighters regressed if anything. Abel teaches you how to punch. That’s a mighty good trainer since a lot of boxers don’t really punch that well to begin with. So with GGG he was actually coaching him well in the corner vs Canelo. Told him to move to the right a bit and he had more success connecting the right hand later through the fight. A coach won’t win a fight for you. Coaches can only tell you to move left or right from the corner and the rest is in your experience, IQ and identity as a fighter.

Nothing Sanchez could have said to prevent a complete washing of Gassiev. He did tell him to go for the KO in the last 3 rounds or so, but Gassiev wasn't even close to accomplishing that.

He is a maricon.

You make some very good points and I agree with getting his fighters ready physically. From a PR perspective I think he can be a double-edged sword, he has made comments that have come back to bite GGG for example. And to your last point about him taking Gassiev to the final, was that really him or was that more to do with Gassiev's physical traits? By this I mean that Gassiev has looked quite basic in a lot of his fights but has relied on his natural power and toughness to grind out wins. Thankfully the boy is tough as he has had to take a lot of shots clean. I havent seen much head-movement or defence for that matter and that again is something Sanchez is responsible for. It's probably up for debate how much is training and how much is just how he is naturally. With the shape he's in, I'm personally more inclined to think that it's training - at the very least Sanchez has taught him how to punch the right way to capitalise on his power.

In this current era, I think if nothing else he has a good eye for talent, it's obvious that he examines amateur prospects quite closely, especially those from Eastern Europe, and manages to pick out the guys with the best attributes for the pros and adapts them quickly to the ranks. Golovkin's obviously the best example of this but I think it goes for a lot of his current guys too - like others have said, I don't think round-by-round strategy is his strong suit but his guys always come in peak physical condition, and the guys he's trained seem to hit a lot harder than average, so I think he at least deserves credit for the fitness and punching form training he's taught, though some of that is no doubt down to the natural ability of the guys he recruits. I also think he's good PR, he's confident in front of cameras, speaks fluent English, and is good at talking smack, which means he's a good complement for a lot the Eastern Euro guys he trains who aren't the most charismatic and only speak broken English. The fact that he's a Mexican trainer with a down-to-earth feel to him makes him less offputting as a frontman than some sleazy old white promoter would be, for instance. That ad where it was footage of Golovkin training interspersed with Sanchez's thinly-veiled clowning on Canelo for his Mexican Beef was like the peak of that, that was PR brilliance. So yeah, I think as far as strategy goes he's no Manny Steward. It seems like he favours overwhelming offense as his go-to strategy that follows an effective but relatively basic ruleset. However I still think he's smart in a lot of other ways that are valuable to fighters careers, and he's a good fit for the guys he has, especially for Golovkin. I know in the aftermath of the whipping Gassiev took from Usyk it's easy to not be impressed, but the fact remains that Sanchez helped Gassiev, a 24-year old, reach the grand final of a tournament filled with the toughest guys at the weight, capturing two world title belts along the way, so imo he still deserves credit as a good trainer. You make some very good points and I agree with getting his fighters ready physically. From a PR perspective I think he can be a double-edged sword, he has made comments that have come back to bite GGG for example. And to your last point about him taking Gassiev to the final, was that really him or was that more to do with Gassiev's physical traits? By this I mean that Gassiev has looked quite basic in a lot of his fights but has relied on his natural power and toughness to grind out wins. Thankfully the boy is tough as he has had to take a lot of shots clean. I havent seen much head-movement or defence for that matter and that again is something Sanchez is responsible for.

No I don’t, not in the least and having watched GGG vs Clenelo it confirmed to me the guy is vastly overrated. Same with Gassiev I don’t see what he brings to his fighters whatsoever. I think he gets his fighters in tremendous shape but ultimately that's it. I haven't seen any of his fighters really improve technically or tactically and he seems to like to work with fighters who are physically strong and aggressive. Gassiev clearly has the attributes to be successful but needs to improve his technical ability. He's still young and can come back from this defeat but I think he should look at alternatives to Sanchez.

I've spent enough time on this forum to know that literally every single trainer is overrated.

He did tell Gassiev to cut off the ring and not just follow. Gassiev just couldn't do it.