How overrated is Abel Sanchez as a trainer?

Not as overrated as Roger Mayweather.

I will acknowledge that a slick southpaw is the worst opponent to fight. The style is difficult enough to deal with on it's own with all the movement, and then you complicate it further by adding the awkward angles of a southpaw? Solving that puzzle must have given Abel fits.

Nah I think he is a very good trainer but defo has some flaws. His fighters seem to be able to cut the ring off if their opponents are scared of their power, if not then they can escape pretty easily. Gassiev was trying to herd Usyk all night with that left hook to the body trying to force OA into his right, but it never worked. Usyk adapted and then zeroed in on counters as the fight wore on. Gassiev’s feet were far too slow to keep up with an elite athlete like Usyk and he had no answers for the movement down the stretch. The southpaw stance was a big factor also, he was always playing catch-up with the lead foot and Usyk had his fundamentals down to a tee fighting opposite handed fighters. Not surprising considering Usyk had an extensive elite am career while Gassiev is only 24. You are right though, with GGG vs Canelo and Gassiev vs Usyk, his fighters seemed unable to adapt to their opponents escape routes and step across, even though they were mostly going the same way every time (Canelo to GGs right, Usyk to Gassievs left) Glad someone else pointed out the lead foot, I said the same thing on the live score card thread. Usyk fought an elite fight, he was constantly circling and keeping his lead leg on the outside.... this totally nullifies orthodox fighters and they can't get their shots off. I'm not going to be too hard on Gassiev or Sanchez here, there is no one else active currently at CW or HW that will do that to Gassiev..... Maybe Tyson Fury at 100% could totally nullify him.

Usyk fought very well. But were there no adjustments Sanchez could have made? Why was there no Plan B when it became obvious that what they were doing wasn't working? there likely was, but we don't even know what Plan A was (I doubt it was just putting his arms up and taking 950 punches)

Because Gassiev lost the finals? If you're training a 200lb fighter and his opponent somehow manages to throw 970 punches over the course of the fight (average CW throws 35 punches a round, Usyk was dancing around throwing 81 punches a round) How the hell do you coach against that? What's your game plan? Usyk fought very well. But were there no adjustments Sanchez could have made? Why was there no Plan B when it became obvious that what they were doing wasn't working?

Because Gassiev lost the finals? If you're training a 200lb fighter and his opponent somehow manages to throw 970 punches over the course of the fight (average CW throws 35 punches a round, Usyk was dancing around throwing 81 punches a round) How the hell do you coach against that? What's your game plan?

Nah I think he is a very good trainer but defo has some flaws. His fighters seem to be able to cut the ring off if their opponents are scared of their power, if not then they can escape pretty easily. Gassiev was trying to herd Usyk all night with that left hook to the body trying to force OA into his right, but it never worked. Usyk adapted and then zeroed in on counters as the fight wore on. Gassiev’s feet were far too slow to keep up with an elite athlete like Usyk and he had no answers for the movement down the stretch. The southpaw stance was a big factor also, he was always playing catch-up with the lead foot and Usyk had his fundamentals down to a tee fighting opposite handed fighters. Not surprising considering Usyk had an extensive elite am career while Gassiev is only 24. You are right though, with GGG vs Canelo and Gassiev vs Usyk, his fighters seemed unable to adapt to their opponents escape routes and step across, even though they were mostly going the same way every time (Canelo to GGs right, Usyk to Gassievs left)

If Abel tells murat he needs to throw more punches and move his head if he wants to win and murat doesnt listen is that really abels fault? The fighter has to be held responsible as well

most trainers are overrated Most boxing fans are overrated! Best man won on the night, why is there always a kangaroo court after a great fight night like last night

EXTREMELY and that is something people (myself included) been posting on this forum for awhile but I guess because he is GGG Trainer people somehow turn that into "If You're Calling Abel Sanchez Overrated Then You're Taking Shots At GGG" but no that is not the case. GGG is a excellent figher who would likely have the same success regardless of his trainer is. But Canelo and the Reynoso's are not wrong...he does talk too much :lol1: but he is also an excuse maker, he put excuses in place before the fight with the "Well If he Stands And Trade..." "If He Comes To Fight" "If He Fights A Certain Style"

Poor mans freddie roach

Just checked Boxrec . Says Canelo vs. GGG = DRAW ? well if boxrec says it then it must be true

Gassiev didn't seem to be ready for that type of fight mentally, he had the wrong attitude in this fight, with a skilled guy like Usyk you can't be that inactive and that clean, they should've known that Usyk is better at all departments except maybe power so they should've fought a rough busy fight to break Usyk down and take away his speed and movement. Either said than done though, what happened to Gassiev happened to almost all of Floyd Mayweather's opponents for example and these were partly certified hall of famers and all time greats. You can train and try to prepare as hard as you can physically, but if you're not there nentally on fight night and you're outskilled like Gassiev was, it's game over.

You clearly don't know Jack about boxing GGG wasn't dominating nothing get your eyes checked casual

He always been overrated

His fighters tend to be one-dimensional and fight the same way. Yes, the same way that he trains? He only trains one style...the come forward action packed "Mexican" style that he's said time & again. You can't complain that his fighters aren't doing something different, because that's what they're supposed to do! Now, if you're criticism is how they fail to adapt to the movers? Well, this is a valid complaint but it's not the same per circumstance since fighters present different problems. ie...Gassiev put no pressure on Usyk whatsoever. He didn't fight the same as Golovkin at all. The critique here would be that why didn't he take more risks, especially when he was constantly being tee'd off on? Abel btw had the same comment in the post fight interview. Golovkin vs Canelo 1: Golovkin also didn't throw as much as he should of, but I think he thought he was winning easily with the jab so felt no need. In fact I'd say that he should have backed off when Canelo was on the ropes (which he did a couple times) & simply outboxed him in the center of the ring. He was winning those exchanges easily & I could see him pull the Usyk role against Saul fairly easily. This didn't win him the fight though & it's counter to his entire strategy...of wanting to create a drama show, an actual fight. I don't think Abel is the best trainer out there because he doesn't seem to change his strategy according to the opponent/fighter but he's very good at what he does do & his fighters are highly entertaining. I'd take them over say Virgil Hunter any day, win or lose...just more fun to watch.

Probably as overrated as Roach, Hunter , Garcia and the Mayweaher brothers. Then you have underrated ones like Joe Goosen and Nacho Beristain.

I feel like he is overrated as hell. He has no game plan and has guys fighting the same way all the time, theres no plan B whatsoever.

what you want to do is take a very slow reflex guy like ggg and teach him the shoulder roll and counterpunching The Golovkin that was fighting under Universum wasn't some "slow reflex" guy; say what you want about the level of competition he was facing, Golovkin moved his head, used his feet, threw his lead jab in few different ways, changed up the speed on his shots, etc. He wasn't Pirog fluid for an Eastern European fighter, but he wasn't a stiff either.

All i have to say is that he was trash in this fight. He kept talking **** to Gassiev and giving no real technical advice. Gassiev should go back to his old trainer