people are already trashing gassiev?

damn, usy makes sompe people as uncomforable just like loma and GGG do. wonder why? :thinking; More importantly, and more pathetically, people are trashing Abel Sanchez for Marat's performance vs. Usyk. The same Abel Sanchez whose guidance helped Gassiev to a 26-0 record at the age of 24...

He's 24. Lots of time to improve, he's good a good head on his shoulders and monstrous power to boot. Watch him comeback strong. All the haters can go to hell.

"andre ward" "war"??? what's your concept of a war in boxing? seriously, ward's never been in a war. I meant war of attrition, but you're right, war's not the right word. If Ward was getting beat from the outside, he made it a brawl, anything goes, last man standing type of a fight. Gassiev's a good fighter (and Usyk probably fought the fight of his life) but what Murat was doing wasn't working and he couldn't adjust.

I was actually rooting for Gassiev (though I knew Usyk would win) but he put up a bum performance as was made to look like a fool. Usyk is the goods and top 3 P4P but Murat dropped a turd that night in front of his fans. Never did I see him try to go out on his shield when he was obviously out, the guy didn't even move his head all freakin night.

he was ranked #1 at cw not heavy. why do you keep pretending they are the same division? you do realize gassiev and usyk fight at cruiser right? wilder fights at hw. ortiz fights at hw. they don't have wins over the #1 guy 37 or not. also he started his career late. he had a few fights then stopped fighting for 4 years, then at age 28-29 started his career up again. things you would know if you cared but you have your own agenda to do so go for it. They're barely 1 division apart, they literally weigh in as HW's on fight night. CW is a division where for HW's that can't make it but somehow it's better than HW? If Gassiev was a HW his lack of skill would be lambasted, just like Lebedev who took 9 rounds to KO RJJ. Or Dorticos who couldn't even put away Edison Miranda but is supposed to be a power puncher. Bellew & Vlasov breaking in the top 10 too, c'mon man CW is a joke.

Bro i felt a past prime shot to ***** labadev beat gassiev and u are comparing him to wilder? Gassiev and usyk fight in a trash division. The comp is low. Btw daggum u will forever be ignored by me. U are a flaimming idiot who spams the forum with trash day in day out. he was shot to sh-it and still #1 in the division? what a laughable statement. how is it a trash division? cause you say so? there are top guys like ortiz, stirverne, miller and whyte who are woefully out of shape but thats a great division? what does it say about a division if a bunch of the top guys don't even have to train or be in shape yet they can still make it to the top? low comp at cruiser doe!!! ignore me cause i destroy your pitiful arguments. its better for your confidence this way.

5'11 37 year old Lebedev, in his prime he was going 10 with Roy Jones Jr. that somehow makes him a good fighter? Name a top 10 HW that wouldn't toy with 5'11 Lebedev. he was ranked #1 at cw not heavy. why do you keep pretending they are the same division? you do realize gassiev and usyk fight at cruiser right? wilder fights at hw. ortiz fights at hw. they don't have wins over the #1 guy 37 or not. also he started his career late. he had a few fights then stopped fighting for 4 years, then at age 28-29 started his career up again. things you would know if you cared but you have your own agenda to do so go for it.

Bro i felt a past prime shot to ***** labadev beat gassiev and u are comparing him to wilder? Gassiev and usyk fight in a trash division. The comp is low. Btw daggum u will forever be ignored by me. U are a flaimming idiot who spams the forum with trash day in day out. man, Wilder is trash, yet u guys keep saying he would beat prime Mike T, Lennox, Holyfield. Even at this age those mofos would sh it on Wilder.

Gassiev looked terrible last night. Usyk boxed well but Murat made him look like the second coming of JC. Gassiev looked plodding, predictable and passionless. If you can't win a boxing match, make it a war. Don't these guys ever watch a Ward fight? Usyk deserves praise for his performance but remember in his last fight he beat Briedis by the narrowest of margins, so let's hold off on crowning him "top fighter in the word" for a little while. "andre ward" "war"??? what's your concept of a war in boxing? seriously, ward's never been in a war.

Gassiev looked terrible last night. Usyk boxed well but Murat made him look like the second coming of JC. Gassiev looked plodding, predictable and passionless. If you can't win a boxing match, make it a war. Don't these guys ever watch a Ward fight? Usyk deserves praise for his performance but remember in his last fight he beat Briedis by the narrowest of margins, so let's hold off on crowning him "top fighter in the world" for a little while.

who exactly did he fight though? oh so lebedev who is better than anyone that ortiz has beat and was ranked #1 in the division is suddenly shot hmm ok i see you! 5'11 37 year old Lebedev, in his prime he was going 10 with Roy Jones Jr. that somehow makes him a good fighter? Name a top 10 HW that wouldn't toy with 5'11 Lebedev.

So it was kind of Loma vs Gervonta. Just Loma would go for KO around 8-9.

nope, I am not saying any of them is HOF material. But fans like you think Wilder is the ultimate boxer when in reality he is a POS in a time when there is no one good. He could of fought Klitsch,never wanted that. He is just a POS. Bro i felt a past prime shot to ***** labadev beat gassiev and u are comparing him to wilder? Gassiev and usyk fight in a trash division. The comp is low. Btw daggum u will forever be ignored by me. U are a flaimming idiot who spams the forum with trash day in day out.

LOl there were like 5 thread about andre ward after this fight It's so sad

we watched 2 great fighters today. Usyk is just too much of a great fighter. I wish we could learn to respect boxers more when they are guys like Usyk and Gassiev!!! Great great fighters in my opinion. Exactly. Great fighters both of them.

gassiev is a bum! ward would of beaten both of those eurobots on the same night! Gassiev is only 24 and been in a full unification fight. Pretty good imo. Can only get better.

Ortiz is better and more proven, and is a whole division up. Gassiev is a good win but he's very young & was very 1 dimensional as he has shown vs Lebedev as well. Ortiz has a world class jab, footwork, counters, power, all from the southpaw stance. Dominated ALL opponents, a very important note. I don't understand how Gassiev taken to a SD against a shot 5'11 Lebedev makes him a P4P fighter. He's great in his division but that's it. Ortiz was shot with rabbit punches from the windmill. Wilder is poo poo

Usyk benefits from fighting in traditionally whats a weak division. No one gives a crap about cruiserweight. Thats not to say that usyk is total trash but. Benefits from a division thats blown way out of proportion by fans like u. Guys like. Gassiev are nothing apecial at all. I have threads months ago calling this fight A mismatch because gassiev is that bad.....its a perfect opponent to appear to look "great" against. Fans like u are even saying that usyk is now in the hall of fame hahahahaha. This is why no one takes euro fans serious. Gassiev is a BUM compared to wilder. A total d class BUM. Pfp such a fighter like gassiev would never eeeeeeever get wilder in the hall of fame but usyk in ure minds is itching towards the hall of fame from gassiev? Again. U are a crowd that can't stop over exaggerating a certian group and it blinds u to what they have actually accomplished. nope, I am not saying any of them is HOF material. But fans like you think Wilder is the ultimate boxer when in reality he is a POS in a time when there is no one good. He could of fought Klitsch,never wanted that. He is just a POS.

Usyk benefits from fighting in traditionally whats a weak division. No one gives a crap about cruiserweight. Thats not to say that usyk is total trash but. Benefits from a division thats blown way out of proportion by fans like u. Guys like. Gassiev are nothing apecial at all. I have threads months ago calling this fight A mismatch because gassiev is that bad.....its a perfect opponent to appear to look "great" against. Fans like u are even saying that usyk is now in the hall of fame hahahahaha. This is why no one takes euro fans serious. Gassiev is a BUM compared to wilder. A total d class BUM. Pfp such a fighter like gassiev would never eeeeeeever get wilder in the hall of fame but usyk in ure minds is itching towards the hall of fame from gassiev? Again. U are a crowd that can't stop over exaggerating a certian group and it blinds u to what they have actually accomplished. Meanwhile, Usyk is on everyone's P4P list and Wilder is nowhere in the top 10. Stay mad, kiddo.

Usyk benefits from fighting in traditionally whats a weak division. No one gives a crap about cruiserweight. Thats not to say that usyk is total trash but. Benefits from a division thats blown way out of proportion by fans like u. Guys like. Gassiev are nothing apecial at all. I have threads months ago calling this fight A mismatch because gassiev is that bad.....its a perfect opponent to appear to look "great" against. Fans like u are even saying that usyk is now in the hall of fame hahahahaha. This is why no one takes euro fans serious. Gassiev is a BUM compared to wilder. A total d class BUM. Pfp such a fighter like gassiev would never eeeeeeever get wilder in the hall of fame but usyk in ure minds is itching towards the hall of fame from gassiev? Again. U are a crowd that can't stop over exaggerating a certian group and it blinds u to what they have actually accomplished. gassiev has a much better resume than wilder so how is he a bum? gassiev beat the #1 guy in the division. something wilder has never done. they are in different divisions so thats just a dumb argument. usyk and gassiev have done more in their divisions than wilder. you are tte one overrating wilder based on beating old out of shape fighters.