thurman is not coming back there aren't even any rumors of him coming back like who is he fighting what date ect its a joke! thurman had to give up the wbc belt due to inactivity. time for that joke of an orginazation called the wba to do the right thing. Strip keith and make PAC the super champion and get rid of the multiple belts!
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yeah but...steroids
plus, half those divisions have only been around half as long. (example. Bantamweight has been around since 1890. Super Bantamweight/Junior Featherweight has been around since 1976)
It's not like it'll take them long to get belt shots either haha.. whoever wins becomes undisputed at the weight and by virtue of the WBO becomes automatic for a shot when they move up weight from being CW champion.
Soo... it could be Usyk or Gssiev vs either Povetkin, wilder or AJ.
time cant roll by quick enough now ive just realised this lol
It's one of the reasons I was angry when usyk vs gassiev got postponed. Wilder vs Joshua would have nowhere to go if it was "fight eachother or fight Usyk/Gassiev"
You’re still asking wba to get rid of all their belts lol. Not gonna happen. Even if they strip Thurman when he comes back they’ll prob make his next fight for a new belt
thurman is not coming back there aren't even any rumors of him coming back like who is he fighting what date ect its a joke! thurman had to give up the wbc belt due to inactivity. time for that joke of an orginazation called the wba to do the right thing. Strip keith and make PAC the super champion and get rid of the multiple belts!Sure, make him the super champ and offer Thurman a title shot if he ever comes back.
Pac the near 40 year old's body appears to be more intact than the younger Thurman, lol. Too funny. At least Pac fights once per year, not even that Thurman can accomplish.
Even worse, I'm pretty sure both Usyk AND Gassiev have stated they plan to move up to HW after the tournament. So WBA will have a vacant Super and vacant Regular that they can get many fees out of.
As much as I love the CW division right now, once those two move up, they're immediately top 5 HW's (in all honesty, I don't think anyone at HW beats them. Sure, Wilder can get lucky with the right hand, but a punchers chance is all anyone has)
(Maybe Fury if he gets in shape and is pre binge Fury)
It's not like it'll take them long to get belt shots either haha.. whoever wins becomes undisputed at the weight and by virtue of the WBO becomes automatic for a shot when they move up weight from being CW champion.
Soo... it could be Usyk or Gssiev vs either Povetkin, wilder or AJ.
time cant roll by quick enough now ive just realised this lol
Let him get a tune up then Pac (he may just want to cash out and this would give him a PPV fight). Sucks that the fighters that want to be active champions keep getting ducked. Pac vs Khan will probably be next, and we won't ever get the Brook fight until no one wants to see it anymore.
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The WBA meanwhile has 3 Cruiserweight champions right now, and no Super champion.
WBA Regular Champion - Murat Gassiev
WBA Champion in Recess - Denis Lebedev
WBA Interim Champion - Arsen Goulamirian
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... nope: WBA has Gassiev as "super", but doesn't have a "regular"... (go check on the website...)
I believe they changed their rules for the Super(again) AFAIK currently the only requirement is that you defend 5 times.... although as we have seen they freely ignore this as they see fit. Nowhere in the revised rules from Sofia does it state that the Super championship can be earned by unifying although this was of course the original purpose of the super title. Interestingly there is now a special 'unified' title awarded by the WBA to go alongside the 3 or 4 other world titles they offer, although it seems to attract very little attention.
Yeah i hear ya, and i had a good LOL at this one..
In exceptional circumstances, the Championships
Committee and the President may designate a Champion (other than an Interim Champion) as a
Super Champion. The President and Committee may establish criteria for a Super Championship.
Roughly translates to
When we give someone the super belt, and for whatever reason they arent defending it.. we have the right to promote someone else into that position cos we want sanctioning fees from 3 belts and cant get that if our super champion isnt fighting and we only have a reg and an interim.
we are money hungry sluts.
And whats gonna happen after the final of WBSS.. by their own rulers gassiev should be a super champion as he holds more than one belt. So once he or usyk wins.. they'll be super. they'll promote interim to regular or have Arsen fight the #1 for the regular belt.. and then bet your ass they'll sanction #2 and #3 for an interim title afterwards.
Greedy cu-nts
Even worse, I'm pretty sure both Usyk AND Gassiev have stated they plan to move up to HW after the tournament. So WBA will have a vacant Super and vacant Regular that they can get many fees out of.
As much as I love the CW division right now, once those two move up, they're immediately top 5 HW's (in all honesty, I don't think anyone at HW beats them. Sure, Wilder can get lucky with the right hand, but a punchers chance is all anyone has)
(Maybe Fury if he gets in shape and is pre binge Fury)
Isn't bellew still champion in recess for the wbc though
Emeritus status.. he can come back and fight for the belt whenever he wants.
Best believe he's never stepping in the ring with Usyk or Gassiev though.
Not enough money for him and he knows he would get his head stoved in.
Bellew either fights Ward, Stevenson at CW or retires. The Fury fights never gonna happen for him.
And whats gonna happen after the final of WBSS.. by their own rulers gassiev should be a super champion as he holds more than one belt. So once he or usyk wins.. they'll be super. they'll promote interim to regular or have Arsen fight the #1 for the regular belt.. and then bet your ass they'll sanction #2 and #3 for an interim title afterwards.
Greedy cu-nts
I believe they changed their rules for the Super(again) AFAIK currently the only requirement is that you defend 5 times.... although as we have seen they freely ignore this as they see fit. Nowhere in the revised rules from Sofia does it state that the Super championship can be earned by unifying although this was of course the original purpose of the super title. Interestingly there is now a special 'unified' title awarded by the WBA to go alongside the 3 or 4 other world titles they offer, although it seems to attract very little attention.
That's the thing. We all like to **** on the WBC and Mauricio (and rightfully so) for making special occasion belts, but at the end of the day, they don't get defended. They're just special event trophies basically.
The WBA meanwhile has 3 Cruiserweight champions right now, and no Super champion.
WBA Regular Champion - Murat Gassiev
WBA Champion in Recess - Denis Lebedev
WBA Interim Champion - Arsen Goulamirian
In what world does this make sense? Why do they even have a Champion in Recess and Interim Champion? Gassiev isn't injured, he's just in a tournament...so instead of upgrading him, they just give belts to two other guys?
Isn't bellew still champion in recess for the wbc though
**** no. He wont fight Crawford or Spence. Would be another road block preventing the division from unifying.
Because Thurmans calling everyone out right now huh lol...
He said he'll fight Crawford in the Post fight presser ..i doubt he'd fight spence.
In all honesty.. Spence best hope someone steps up with some bollocks and unifies with him otherwise he can look forward to a couple years of fighting the IBF bums below him before he gets too big for the weight and moves up to super WW which again isnt the hottest division right now.
Shame really.. but until porter / Swift winner steps up or crawford lets bob let him fight then spence's opponents are going to be far below the level we know he can fight at.
That's the thing. We all like to **** on the WBC and Mauricio (and rightfully so) for making special occasion belts, but at the end of the day, they don't get defended. They're just special event trophies basically.
The WBA meanwhile has 3 Cruiserweight champions right now, and no Super champion.
WBA Regular Champion - Murat Gassiev
WBA Champion in Recess - Denis Lebedev
WBA Interim Champion - Arsen Goulamirian
In what world does this make sense? Why do they even have a Champion in Recess and Interim Champion? Gassiev isn't injured, he's just in a tournament...so instead of upgrading him, they just give belts to two other guys?
And whats gonna happen after the final of WBSS.. by their own rulers gassiev should be a super champion as he holds more than one belt. So once he or usyk wins.. they'll be super. they'll promote interim to regular or have Arsen fight the #1 for the regular belt.. and then bet your ass they'll sanction #2 and #3 for an interim title afterwards.
Greedy cu-nts
Well.. he hasnt got two belts and he hasnt defended it x amount of times and he hasnt defended enough to force the internal unificiation.
They should do away with it for that division until one or more of the above criteria is met, or simply promote him .. make thurman champion in recess to fight when he comes back and get rid of the regular belt .
The WBA are a ****ing joke.. greedy mother****ers and liars for saying they were gonna get rid of the influx of belts but they love them sanctioning fees.
WBC love making up belts but at least theyre one-time things to promote a certain event or date of significance.
That's the thing. We all like to **** on the WBC and Mauricio (and rightfully so) for making special occasion belts, but at the end of the day, they don't get defended. They're just special event trophies basically.
The WBA meanwhile has 3 Cruiserweight champions right now, and no Super champion.
WBA Regular Champion - Murat Gassiev
WBA Champion in Recess - Denis Lebedev
WBA Interim Champion - Arsen Goulamirian
In what world does this make sense? Why do they even have a Champion in Recess and Interim Champion? Gassiev isn't injured, he's just in a tournament...so instead of upgrading him, they just give belts to two other guys?
Well.. he hasnt got two belts and he hasnt defended it x amount of times and he hasnt defended enough to force the internal unificiation.
They should do away with it for that division until one or more of the above criteria is met, or simply promote him .. make thurman champion in recess to fight when he comes back and get rid of the regular belt .
The WBA are a ****ing joke.. greedy mother****ers and liars for saying they were gonna get rid of the influx of belts but they love them sanctioning fees.
WBC love making up belts but at least theyre one-time things to promote a certain event or date of significance.