Bellew speaks sense when not fighting
Wilder had the contract and as the b side he should have signed and made the fight, instead he was worried about losing or he would have signed
Joshua Signed his part and his may been forced by team wilder due to public pressure but wilder in the end did not sign
The fact is the fight did not happen due to wilder not signing, had he did he fight would have happened
When he fought Haye the first time, he was desperate to win so gave up everything
In the history of boxing the b side gives up everything for a chance to be the a side
It seems wilder lost his balls when he came to actually fighting and has stuck to hiding and posting on the internet
Bellew would not take that fight to save his life and should just stfu unless he would
100%
I was being facetious. No way does skinny fat Tony take that fight.
So, Bellew is going to come out and accuse Wilder of not having any balls....last I checked Tony is fighting at HW now.
Sounds like a good tune up to me.
Bellew would not take that fight to save his life and should just stfu unless he would
Wilder is a killer? A killer of what, bums? And he even struggles with them.
Wilder is on borrowed time. It will all collapse soon enough. The writing is on the wall.
Lol @ Joshua being scared of a 94 ko% bum
Stfu you ignorant twit. Everyone is laughing at you
It was only valued as a 100 mill fight in the US, not the UK. And even then that was just a hope. 2 fighters who aren't big in the sates and haven't fought on PPV doesn't look good regardless of the bullsh*t by people like you.
Then take the 50 million offer in the US huh you idiot. It's a no brainer. Your man was scared and never planned on fighting Wilder next. Not even for record money. But you defend it huh numb nutz lol
So, Bellew is going to come out and accuse Wilder of not having any balls....last I checked Tony is fighting at HW now.
Sounds like a good tune up to me.
You made a fool of yourself with the last post, you're now making a bigger fool of yourself now.
Go back and read our posts to see how crazy you really are.
Lol you are literally a complete delusional f@ckwit and don't even know it ha ha ha
Lol @ being in your own world!
^ This is spot on. Joshua is worth more to them over the course of a few fights as opposed to getting paid a lot for one extremely dangerous fight that he has a very real change of not only losing, but getting knocked out very badly and costing him valuable future earning potential.
I don't blame the Hearn side from wanting to maximize the earnings of Joshua before putting him in there with a killer like Wilder but I can't respect the way that they went about seeing to it that the fight didn't take place before next year. I didn't have a favorite in the fight but I can't actively root for Joshua after what has happened.
Wilder is a killer? A killer of what, bums? And he even struggles with them.
Wilder is on borrowed time. It will all collapse soon enough. The writing is on the wall.
What ignorance in this world tells you that Wilder deserves about 15% of a pot of cash that ONLY EXISTS BECAUSE HE'S INVOLVED, when a mandatory challenger gets 25% if a fight goes to a purse bid? Plus Wilder is a mfkn champion and was so before Joshua! Do you really need me to do the math on a potential 100 million dollar fight? 15 million is low as f@ck and Wilder even took it anyways to be the undisputed champ! You idiots just don't want the fight because you know that danger is REAL. How fkn dumb are you motherf@ckers? Seriously!?!?
It was only valued as a 100 mill fight in the US, not the UK. And even then that was just a hope. 2 fighters who aren't big in the sates and haven't fought on PPV doesn't look good regardless of the bullsh*t by people like you.
Lol @ dummies who can't distinguish Floyd from when he was selling under 1 million ppv's ten years ago as opposed to when he fights ODLH, Manny Pacquiao, Canelo and McGregor. Huge difference. Ignorantly, you're comparing one better than average PPV fight vs. Klitschko vs. current Floyd who is the all time PPV king.
That's just ridiculous. 15 million from a 100 million dollar fight is a joke. And if you think that was fair, you're a joke.
You made a fool of yourself with the last post, you're now making a bigger fool of yourself now.
Go back and read our posts to see how crazy you really are.
:lol1: Don't get it twisted mate. Your boy AJ is all about the money. He asked Wilder for $50 Million and guess what they gave to him.
He got it but wasn't permitted to keep it because Barry and Eddie Hearn persuaded him to not to take it because it would have been too risky fighting Deontay so soon and at this point. Also, it would have been too dangerous and a very bad career move because he would have stood to lose $Millions of dollars once he had lost to Wilder by way of knockout.
Both his stock and marketing value would have seen a significant dip as all his major sponsors would have dropped him.
^ This is spot on. Joshua is worth more to them over the course of a few fights as opposed to getting paid a lot for one extremely dangerous fight that he has a very real change of not only losing, but getting knocked out very badly and costing him valuable future earning potential.
I don't blame the Hearn side from wanting to maximize the earnings of Joshua before putting him in there with a killer like Wilder but I can't respect the way that they went about seeing to it that the fight didn't take place before next year. I didn't have a favorite in the fight but I can't actively root for Joshua after what has happened.
So your saying if Joshua is worth 2.5x his highest payday, that Wilder is worth 8x his highest payday? What kind of math is that?
What ignorance in this world tells you that Wilder deserves about 15% of a pot of cash that ONLY EXISTS BECAUSE HE'S INVOLVED, when a mandatory challenger gets 25% if a fight goes to a purse bid? Plus Wilder is a mfkn champion and was so before Joshua! Do you really need me to do the math on a potential 100 million dollar fight? 15 million is low as f@ck and Wilder even took it anyways to be the undisputed champ! You idiots just don't want the fight because you know that danger is REAL. How fkn dumb are you motherf@ckers? Seriously!?!?
You claimed Floyd earned more so didn't have to pay his opponents any more than 2-4 million. But claimed Joshua should pay more because he isn't on Floyd's level. Yes you did.
Joshua is worth that because he is a big PPV star. Wilder isn't worth more because he's a nobody. So you're now contradicting yourself. If Joshua is worth 50 mill, why can't he pay Wilder 2-4 mill like Floyd paid his opponents?
Lol @ dummies who can't distinguish Floyd from when he was selling under 1 million ppv's ten years ago as opposed to when he fights ODLH, Manny Pacquiao, Canelo and McGregor. Huge difference. Ignorantly, you're comparing one better than average PPV fight vs. Klitschko vs. current Floyd who is the all time PPV king.
That's just ridiculous. 15 million from a 100 million dollar fight is a joke. And if you think that was fair, you're a joke.
Dude look it doesn’t matter about delaying to more by giving x days
Don’t you get my point, wilder had enough days and people won’t wait forever
Aj signed to fight
Wilder wanted more time
All wilder has to do is fight, if wilder signed and returned it, the fight would be on
How does aj not want it by signing to fight ?
How does wilder want it when he refuses ?
The absolute fact is and I ask you again my friend to dispute this
Wilder never signed to fight aj
Aj signed to fight wilder
Therefore it’s on wilder
Bellew wanted vs Haye and signed
Floyd wanted vs oscar and signed
Wilder never wanted it so he never signed
1. I never said AJ doesn't want the fight. I don't think Hearn wants it
2. As I said before, of course AJ signed, HIS promoter drew up the contract, so everything for him was already cleared and good for him to sign
3. Wilder's side asked for clarification and revisions on a couple points on the contract. Are they supposed to just get it back and sign right away trusting that it's in there without their lawyers and people going over it again to make sure nothing else out of the ordinary was added? Again, where did Finkel say they received the contract back with the venue and date of the fight? You said everything was agreed to and they were just waiting to sign it right. Hearn just gave an IFLTV interview, even he didn't say they had a date and venue. He said they were still looking
4. Joshua(i'm sure at the influence of Hearn) walked away from the biggest guarantee in heavyweight history. Fight could of already been made
5. In my opinion it was always in Hearns plans to stall this fight. Now look at how quick he just came back out saying the fight can happen with a date already picked out in April of next year. :lol1: He is even trying to get options on Wilder with adding that he can get an extra 5 mil for a fight in September or October.
Honestly though, I don't even care anymore. This crap has drawn out too darn long and we know now they aren't fighting each other next. Screw Finkel and Hearn.
Deontay is the people's champ? Hahahahahahahaha Nobody even knows who he is. Man, you're crazy delusional.
It was all about the money. Wilder was claiming 12 mill was beneath his worth. So don't give me that load of nonsense.
Wilder's fans are as deluded as he is. And they contradict themselves just as much too.:lol1: Don't get it twisted mate. Your boy AJ is all about the money. He asked Wilder for $50 Million and guess what they gave to him.
He got it but wasn't permitted to keep it because Barry and Eddie Hearn persuaded him to not to take it because it would have been too risky fighting Deontay so soon and at this point. Also, it would have been too dangerous and a very bad career move because he would have stood to lose $Millions of dollars once he had lost to Wilder by way of knockout.
Both his stock and marketing value would have seen a significant dip as all his major sponsors would have dropped him.
The fights not happening because Deontay lost his balls and his pen. Shame. Now he can fight nobodies for a pittance.LOL, Yeah, that's what you will tell your AJ fanboys. You all must think Deontay is a damn fool just because he's from a Tuscaloosa Alabama; Which by the way has been named the most livable city in America and one of the "50 Best College Towns" in America according to Wikipedia.
So the man isn't stupid as he resides in a community that has some of the best higher learning institutions in the country. In addition, just because he's from the South doesn't mean he is that naive or foolish enough to sign a blank contract.
Matchroom Boxing tried to hoodwink him by attempting a slick a can of oil on him by getting him to sign a contract with no proper venue or date. However, thank goodness Wilder had the presence of mind, discernment, commons sense and the Due diligence in seeing through all the bullshit that they were trying to put down.
The fights not happening because Deontay lost his balls and his pen. Shame. Now he can fight nobodies for a pittance.LOL, Yeah, that's what you will tell your AJ fanboys. You all must think Deontay is a damn fool just because he's from a Tuscaloosa Alabama; Which by the way has been named the most livable city in America and one of the "50 Best College Towns" in America according to Wikipedia.
So the man isn't stupid as he resides in a community that has some of the best higher learning institutions in the country. In addition, just because he's from the South doesn't mean he is naive or foolish enough to sign a blank contract.
The fact is, Matchroom boxing tried to hoodwink him into signing away his life. However, thank Goodness he was able to discern and see through all the Bullshit that they were trying to put down.
No, obviously I'm saying that if Joshua is worth 50 million then Wilder is damn sure worth more than 15 million and he took that anyways to become undisputed. Joshua's team just didn't want it yet.
So your saying if Joshua is worth 2.5x his highest payday, that Wilder is worth 8x his highest payday? What kind of math is that?
No, obviously I'm saying that if Joshua is worth 50 million then Wilder is damn sure worth more than 15 million and he took that anyways to become undisputed. Joshua's team just didn't want it yet.
You claimed Floyd earned more so didn't have to pay his opponents any more than 2-4 million. But claimed Joshua should pay more because he isn't on Floyd's level. Yes you did.
Joshua is worth that because he is a big PPV star. Wilder isn't worth more because he's a nobody. So you're now contradicting yourself. If Joshua is worth 50 mill, why can't he pay Wilder 2-4 mill like Floyd paid his opponents?
Are you saying the less you earn the more you pay out to opponents?
No, obviously I'm saying that if Joshua is worth 50 million then Wilder is damn sure worth more than 15 million and he took that anyways to become undisputed. Joshua's team just didn't want it yet.
I didn't see Finkel.say that at all but if he did you mean to tell.me they can't wait til this Friday? That's all they would have to tell the WBA. C'mon man, if it were that simple we wouldn't be having this discussion
The WBA had already given Hearn another month to agree terms with Wilder. They weren't interested in waiting any longer without a signed contract.