For many people, and this includes astute observers on the US side of the pond, it has been obvious who has been making genuine attempts to make the fight, and who has been behaving amateurishly via social media, refusing to meet, not communicating, taking time etc.
There is a time and place for trash talk and all that stuff, more so after a fight has been made, it serves to hype up the event for casuals. The problem is that casuals can't read between the lines, and what they take away from some screaming on twitter is what they perceive as facts.
The facts are.
1. Asking AJ to sign a $50m 'offer' and openly saying that you have to sign without knowing terms and conditions, location, judges etc....that may be inconsequential to casuals but any boxing follower knows it's ridiculous to expect a fight to be made that way. Fact, plain and simple.
2. Hearn flew to New York and Wilder's team would not even meet with him. Fact, plain and simple.
3. Joshua is the A side. More belts, more draw. He decides where he wants it. Fact.
4. They sent an offer to Wilder, properly formatted and executed. Received Monday. Wilder is 'mulling it over'. This came out today via a respected US newspaper, link below.
So, as most casuals screetch and whine because they react to drama on social media, actual boxing followers and people with some sense can see who has acted professionally and reasonably, and who has been amateurish and difficult. Kudos to the many Americans who have pointed this out too, among the many who have just been a bit dramatic throughout this saga.
Glad it is coming out now. Hopefully Wilder doesn't 'mull' for too long, it's a great fight and a close match up, great for fans.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/boxing/la-sp-wilder-mulling-joshua-offer-20180619-story.html
I read Wilder is awaiting clarification of a couple points on the contract and is frustrated Hearn says there is a time limit but are not responding to the requests for clarification.
what if i spoke to wilder himself? And your post saying he got it last week explain to me how u came to that conclusion. Its just a flat out lie. U all lie to make yourselves feel better.
Says the guy who claims he only received the contract on Monday with no proof :lol1:
so based on that retards logic, if you want the fight you don't negotiate :lol1:
They are in the preliminary stages of negotiation and generating publicity. Like I said once the figure they have the public demand peaked they will get serious..
Ha ha, nice one.
I love how it’s all turning into “we were just joking around” now that the fight is getting made.
Americans are funny. Stupid, but funny.
They will elect an orange haired moron who has no respect for women, human rights, environmental issues, or any other relevant topic- and then try and convince you that they are the hub of the universe.
America: We all laugh at you. You are perceived as fat ****ers who know nothing about the world outside of your own boundaries and you are all fat, loud, ****s. THAT is how the world sees you. We don’t want to be like you, you silly ****s, we ****ing despise and look down on you fat bastards.
Who cares about any of this? :sad6: You all know what we know which is that it should be the best holding those belts and not the best of Britain.
The fight will surpass well over 100 Million in two fights anyway ,only one side is trying to be drama queens on social media , and we ALL know who that is .
The fight COULD have happened next , the fact if it goes to 2019 it sells itself and they still both have to win so it becomes greed at this point and thats from the man thinking hes worth 40% ( 20 / plus ) Million ! lol
The Wilder fan base have to be completely stupid not to see Wilder was the problem from the get go with his 50 % demand and they supported that bc its part of negotiating even though they want the fight NEXT ?
Complete brain dead fan base if i ever seen one ! :dead1:
Whatever..
What crazy demands could one possibly conjure up who can generate 50 Million dollar fights with Wilder who has averaged 1.4 Million a fight and hasnt even been on PPV yet ?
The 12.5 starting negotiating point should have been actually NEGOTIATED from the start and the fight would have been signed weeks ago but i guess you fan girls didn't want to see the fight and WERE the ones who cried about money ? :doh:
What are you talking about I'm not a fan if either guy. I'm just pointing out that they are generating the publicity they need to make this fight a financial success.
Ha ha, nice one.
I love how it’s all turning into “we were just joking around” now that the fight is getting made.
Americans are funny. Stupid, but funny.
They will elect an orange haired moron who has no respect for women, human rights, environmental issues, or any other relevant topic- and then try and convince you that they are the hub of the universe.
America: We all laugh at you. You are perceived as fat ****ers who know nothing about the world outside of your own boundaries and you are all fat, loud, ****s. THAT is how the world sees you. We don’t want to be like you, you silly ****s, we ****ing despise and look down on you fat bastards.
France is a schithole.......don't try to park in Stasbourg you'll get you car burned up if you're American. Germany is sick and tired of Merkel's failed policies, I know that from speaking with Germans.....in Germany. But yeah, Karlsruhe is pretty cool, nice city. Stop being so stereotypical and brush your teeth!!
:spankme:
Ha ha, nice one.
I love how it’s all turning into “we were just joking around” now that the fight is getting made.
Americans are funny. Stupid, but funny.
They will elect an orange haired moron who has no respect for women, human rights, environmental issues, or any other relevant topic- and then try and convince you that they are the hub of the universe.
America: We all laugh at you. You are perceived as fat ****ers who know nothing about the world outside of your own boundaries and you are all fat, loud, ****s. THAT is how the world sees you. We don’t want to be like you, you silly ****s, we ****ing despise and look down on you fat bastards.
Dude, America is a continent.
It just those on the North Side that are a bit slow.
Calling the USA America is like calling France Europe.
just a lot of women from the UK upset that the US HW has their beloved under immense pressure right now
they thought they had the market cornered on a HW champion...and they thought for sure Ortiz would rid them of their wilder "problem"....then Ortiz(considered widely more skilled) got dropped 3x and now AJ is under immense pressure
he has them delusional
Like many Americans- you have your head firmly shoved up your arse. You actually believe what you are saying
- so you are oblivious to the facts
How you see yourselves is like this: “Europe envies us and we are a world leader.”
How Europe sees you is this: “ A nation of fat, uneducated, McDonalds eating ****s who don’t know the difference between good wine and a can of pop.”
You think the world likes you and wants to be like you. You, and your orange haired moron of an idiot leader, are the laughing stock of the world, you horrible, war mongering, money hungry, stupid, fat ****s
Wilder’s team, The Times has learned, received the contract proposal Monday night and has yet to officially respond.
An answer could come to Joshua “within the next few days,” according to one official close to the negotiation who is not authorized to speak publicly. /I]
Good article OP.
"Joshua is scared doe"
The 50 million dollar duck has finally quacked!
Ha ha, nice one.
I love how it’s all turning into “we were just joking around” now that the fight is getting made.
Americans are funny. Stupid, but funny.
They will elect an orange haired moron who has no respect for women, human rights, environmental issues, or any other relevant topic- and then try and convince you that they are the hub of the universe.
America: We all laugh at you. You are perceived as fat ****ers who know nothing about the world outside of your own boundaries and you are all fat, loud, ****s. THAT is how the world sees you. We don’t want to be like you, you silly ****s, we ****ing despise and look down on you fat bastards.