Why do people think Spence would beat Crawford?

This is a little off topic. I watched the Charlo Trout fight and I think Crawford can beat Jemell. His talent level is a step above.

Body Punching! :dunno: Good Body Punchers through out HISTORY have always given even the most skilled and the most slickest fighters problems. This is going back to the great Willie Pep and Sandy Saddler Rivalry in which Saddler had his number because Sandy while yes he used dirty tactics, he also would go to the body vs one of the slickest fighters in boxing history and this would take away Pep Legs... http://giant.gfycat.com/DopeyFamousEsok.gif This is why I SLIGHTLY lean 51/49% towards Spence Jr in that match up but if Crawford can avoid punishment to the body and box from outside then Crawford no doubt can get a Decision. Yes Kell Brook boxed Spence Jr early in that fight but once again body work Broke Him Too by the 6th Round https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ElatedWildArchaeopteryx-size_restricted.gif and we know how BIG of a Welterweight Kell was!

tell you who else has a good jab, coming up, that Shakur Stevenson - impressive http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/790719 He's coming along nice so far...

I like Crawford a lot but I don't think his skill advantage is enough to make up for Spence's size and power advantage.

I don't bet. It'll be a good fight while it lasts, but Spence won't be able to stop Bud's jab. Bud is just too fast and too strong for these WW's. tell you who else has a good jab, coming up, that Shakur Stevenson - impressive http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/790719

Porter beat Usyk in the amateurs, doe!... :) Usyk!!? Damn. That is impressive, Usyk is the man I consider now to be a future threat to Joshua, Wilder, but feel Fury's style if in shape would beat Usyk. Nathan Gorman would give Usyk a run possibly in the future. Usyk has a nasty cross. It's fast, faster than Klitschko's I think, and he makes good adjustments w it. I think if he puts on weight, Joshua won't see the cross coming like he did Klitschko's. But I wouldn't put a lot of money on that fight

I'd be interested in a bet, 1:1 odds, if they ever fight - maybe there is a dAPP or something where we could place a wager without any third party getting a piece. I know that Spence would probably be -200 on a betting site and I'd rather not risk it 2 to 1, I believe in Spence to win but like you say, Crawford is a beast and does have more experience. Don't knw about stronger or faster, but his experience may give him better timing I'd rather see Spence go up against PorterI don't bet. It'll be a good fight while it lasts, but Spence won't be able to stop Bud's jab. Bud is just too fast and too strong for these WW's.

Exactly. People think that the Horn fight was easy, but Bud made it look easy. Bud has the between resume and better skills between them two. He will ko Spence. He's stronger, faster and more skilled. Spence has made his bones fighting old men and a WW who had to diet to come down in weight. He has beaten no one at WW. Bud is going to whip his ass. I'd be interested in a bet, 1:1 odds, if they ever fight - maybe there is a dAPP or something where we could place a wager without any third party getting a piece. I know that Spence would probably be -200 on a betting site and I'd rather not risk it 2 to 1, I believe in Spence to win but like you say, Crawford is a beast and does have more experience. Don't knw about stronger or faster, but his experience may give him better timing I'd rather see Spence go up against Porter

I wish Porter would fight him, I'd take Porter vs Spence. Porter beat Usyk in the amateurs, doe!... :)

I mean I like Spence a lot but even with the size I don't think he has the skills to match up with Crawford.Exactly. People think that the Horn fight was easy, but Bud made it look easy. Bud has the between resume and better skills between them two. He will ko Spence. He's stronger, faster and more skilled. Spence has made his bones fighting old men and a WW who had to diet to come down in weight. He has beaten no one at WW. Bud is going to whip his ass.

Porter would debilitate Spence with the dirty tactics, the dirty rope bodywork, probably give him his first bad headbutt cut. Spence's people won't put him in with Porter at this time, and that's smart business.

I guess that Spence will have to move up next year, because he will not find any other belt holder who will want to "unify" with him. I don't think that Haymon is able to force Thurman or the winner of Garcia-Porter to face him... I wish Porter would fight him, I'd take Porter vs Spence.

agree. I feel like Spence has an advantage as his training area exposes him to more styles than Crawford has in Omaha. Age will be a contributing factor, I feel like Spence would put that pain on him with good early bodywork to the old warrior Crawford. I don't really feel like Crawford has that many miles on the clock. Most of his fights have been relatively easy for him. I'm 50/50 on this. I think Bud is more talented. Spence just has that relentlessness in him. So very hard to say.

I'm guessing that Spence will be moving up to JMW at some point within the next 2 years (he turns 30 at the start of 2020 - the usual age at which fighters reach their lasting weightclass). If this happens it's likely to be - as you say around late 2019 early 2020 just before Spence moves up. Honestly though I don't see this as being as inevitable as some people seem to think. I don't think either Haymon or Arum are gonna be too eager to risk one of their stars when it would be relatively easy to steer them around one another. Expect it in 2025 or so if they both keep winning... I guess that Spence will have to move up next year, because he will not find any other belt holder who will want to "unify" with him. I don't think that Haymon is able to force Thurman or the winner of Garcia-Porter to face him...

I'm on the fence for this fight. Crawford the far more skillful fighter imo, and perhaps even the harder puncher but Spence has that dog in him and relentless workrate. To be fair they both have. One of the best fights in boxing! agree. I feel like Spence has an advantage as his training area in DeSoto, TX exposes him to more styles than Crawford has in Omaha. Age will be a contributing factor, I feel like Spence would put that pain on him with good early bodywork to the old warrior Crawford. I feel Spence has faced superior opposition in their first 22 fights, Crawford's guys have some losses early in http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/447121 above is bud, below is spence http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/629465

This fight happens at a catch weight I bet since this won't be made in a year or 2 which by then Spence would have out grown at Welterweight.

Sizes , Spence coming in at 170 the next day for all his fights at 147

Spence has the better jab, power, punch variation, better at cutting off the ring, and he is just bigger and stronger. This fight will be a lot like Hurd vs Lara but end quicker. After watching Crawford's fights against Postol, Molina, Diaz, Indongo, and Horn it is clear that he has had some huge advantages in either size or skill. The only fighter who was able to match him in the "skill and speed" department was Gamboa, and we saw how Gamboa was having some success and even hurt Crawford while being a much smaller man. Since then, Crawford has yet to fight a puncher with speed and skill. This is why I kind of find it laughable for him to be favored over guys like Thurman and Spence who are much more skilled than anyone Crawford has fought but also have certain advantages over him. I think Spence will take Crawford out of his comfort zone and as time goes on, Spence will unload his arsenal and stop Crawford. Let's look at this objectively, you guys. Brook is bigger, stronger, and more powerful than Crawford. Brook was able to go up to 160 and be competitive against GGG even though he faced the inevitable and got stopped. Crawford could not go up to 160 and do to GGG what Brook was able to do. He's just not strong enough. Brook was basically a man amongst boys at 147 and Spence was able to walk him down and break him. I do not see Crawford being able to to do any better than what Brook could do. If anything, it will end much faster due to the fact that Crawford does not have the defense, strength, or power to gain Spence's respect. I honestly think Thurman would have a better shot than Crawford.

I'm on the fence for this fight. Crawford the far more skillful fighter imo, and perhaps even the harder puncher but Spence has that dog in him and relentless workrate. To be fair they both have. One of the best fights in boxing!

Agree. I think its very likely it doesn't even happen. IF they both keep winning yea perhaps. But I mean I tend to lean towards Bud being in the last division he'll compete for the top sport in at 147. And I feel like Spence might have a 154 & 160 run in front of him still. So basically I think once Spence goes to 154 this fight I think might have a 15% chance of happening right now goes down to about a 3% chance of happening. I agree completely, this fight will never happen. It would be a dumb move to put Spence in with Crawford, and from Crawford's end, it would be dumb to risk fighting Spence right now. If they box, I will take Spence, but Crawford is a dog.