The Charlos gotta be sick of playing second fiddle

Charlo isn't in the same position as a fighter that has been proven to sell out arenas, so he is going to operate differently. When you are a proven money maker, anyone will fight you, so you make the most lucrative fights. Example right now is GGG. He is mandated to fight Charlo next but many posters speculate he will fight Murata and Saunders instead because they are far more lucrative. GGG, other than Cnaelo, is the most lucrative fight Charlo can have at MW, so he doesn't have the same choices as GGG would. So in short, you agree with me. Charlo has to do as hes told when hes told. Not sure why that was so hard to say from the jump.

So you brought up points about how the sport operates, but dont want to apply those same points to Charlo now. Interesting. Why are the points different for him? Charlo isn't in the same position as a fighter that has been proven to sell out arenas, so he is going to operate differently. When you are a proven money maker, anyone will fight you, so you make the most lucrative fights. Example right now is GGG. He is mandated to fight Charlo next but many posters speculate he will fight Murata and Saunders instead because they are far more lucrative. GGG, other than Cnaelo, is the most lucrative fight Charlo can have at MW, so he doesn't have the same choices as GGG would.

No, we brought up points that demonstrated how the sport operates. Rather than have an adult discussion about it, certain posters decided to make it some kind of mantra or core values statement because they don't really follow the sport outside of whatever power puncher that was deemed the most dangerous opposition for Floyd, roy or whomever was the top p4p fighter. I'm sure there are some childish "real" fans that share your mindset you can discuss this with instead of me. So you brought up points about how the sport operates, but dont want to apply those same points to Charlo now. Interesting. Why are the points different for him?

You guys made these stupid rules about draws, a side, boxing is a business, etc, not me or Manny fans. Why arent they good enough now? No, we brought up points that demonstrated how the sport operates. Rather than have an adult discussion about it, certain posters decided to make it some kind of mantra or core values statement because they don't really follow the sport outside of whatever power puncher that was deemed the most dangerous opposition for Floyd, roy or whomever was the top p4p fighter. I'm sure there are some childish "real" fans that share your mindset you can discuss this with instead of me.

Just sign the fight. Have it in Texas stadium in Arlington. Bet there will be more people there for Canelo than for the Charlo brother. He has fought Trout who was old, He had a good win over J rOCK, He beat up a one legged Heiland. and He beat a fringe guy in Centeno. Honestly He hasnt done much to be ranked number one. He is kind of in the same shoes as Heiland was. Heiland was number one contender for a long time. He chose to wait it out, take step aside money, etc. When he had his chance he was hurt. Oh well. He could have pulled out , but he figured he wouldnt get a nother shot for a while. Oh well it happens. If he wants to be number one tell him to challenge Lemeuix or another. Canelo will probably fight GGG in May , so this would make sense.

Huh? you are using some retarded logic a Manny fan said Floyd fans use and are throwing back at me because Charlo is black instead of reading my post and responding to the contents of it. That is the equivalent of trolling, with some slight racism and mounds of stupidity added to the mix. My guess is from now on Canelo will fight exclusively on PPV. None of the top potential challengers other than GGG has the "name value" that "deserves" a PPV fight. Neither do any of the mandatories. Using the logic you say you are throwing back at me, Canelo can fight GGG on PPV again or he has to fight on ESPN since no one is "big enough" for PPV. I guess Canelo could drop the belt and fight a more name fighter on PPV while Charlo and whoever is available can fight for it since in your mind Charlo isn't big enough to fight on PPV against Canelo. You guys made these stupid rules about draws, a side, boxing is a business, etc, not me or Manny fans. Why arent they good enough now?

I don't think they should be co-headlining. I mean what if something happened to the brother who fights first? Like a possible knockout loss, or a disqualification, anything. That would have a bad mental effect on his twin fighting right after him. So thats the chance you take if you fight. I think it is more about the trainer getting the one who fights in the main event ready.

Not trolling at all. Using your guys logic back on you. Charlo needs to build up his name, get in line and take what hes offered when the time comes. Dude isnt even a b side. Hes a has no say at all side. Huh? you are using some retarded logic a Manny fan said Floyd fans use and are throwing back at me because Charlo is black instead of reading my post and responding to the contents of it. That is the equivalent of trolling, with some slight racism and mounds of stupidity added to the mix. My guess is from now on Canelo will fight exclusively on PPV. None of the top potential challengers other than GGG has the "name value" that "deserves" a PPV fight. Neither do any of the mandatories. Using the logic you say you are throwing back at me, Canelo can fight GGG on PPV again or he has to fight on ESPN since no one is "big enough" for PPV. I guess Canelo could drop the belt and fight a more name fighter on PPV while Charlo and whoever is available can fight for it since in your mind Charlo isn't big enough to fight on PPV against Canelo.

Is Jermall Charlo still interested in getting a shot at Glovkin, now that Gnnady no longer have any titles?

Yeah Charlo is 28, his lack of desire to fight for the belt is atrocious. Such a waste of career.

Huh? I didn't say he deserved a PPV. I said he is the mando or the regular champ and Canelo only fights on PPV. Oh I get you are trolling. Got it. Carry on. Not trolling at all. Using your guys logic back on you. Charlo needs to build up his name, get in line and take what hes offered when the time comes. Dude isnt even a b side. Hes a has no say at all side.

They need to step there comp up. A lot of talent and a lot of talk but the competition is lacking

When will pbc announce their schedule for the rest of the year? Are they going to do an announcement show like early in the year? When is the first event for the fox deal going to happen? As of now, we know about wilder vs fury, stevenson vs gvozdyk and apparently garcia vs commey. What about charlo, charlo, spence, hurd, broner, browne, lara, thurman, mares, santa cruz, davis, benavidez, breazeale, gary russell jr etc.?

Dont you just love it when “boxing is a business” comes back to bite you in the ass? Charlo is not good business. Barely fights. When he does, its against nobody anybody knows. Is not a headliner. So why does he deserve a ppv? Mind you, these are the same metrics “you guys” used for several years for other fighters who were deserving of fighting a champion but didnt because they didnt meet your standard of business, I mean boxing. Huh? I didn't say he deserved a PPV. I said he is the mando or the regular champ and Canelo only fights on PPV. Oh I get you are trolling. Got it. Carry on.

i thinmk they're both being moved fine, only thing missing is maybe 1 more fight a year. both have foght tough tests punchers, guys in their primes, vets with good boxing skills. they're young and they can make a lot of money down the line when they make it to PPV. the game is changing. i think it's pretty obvious that the dust is settling now and will further settle in 2019, and we will sartto get these guys where they want to be, which is PPV, in big fights. by that i mean real big fights. spence fighting garcia or canelo. jermall charlo fighting canelo. lomachenko fighting garcia or crawford, etc. big, high selling ppv fights between top talent in their primes. i am looking forward to them, and i'll tkae missing a fight a year in the interim if those fights are made.

Isn't Charlo the WBC mando for Canelo since he beat GGG? That or Charlo is the "regular" champ while Canelo is "unified" or whatever. So it isn't a case of whether he is "ready" for PPV it's he is due a fight and Canelo only fights on PPV. Sometimes you guys get so caught up in frivolous BS that you overlook the simplest reasons. Dont you just love it when “boxing is a business” comes back to bite you in the ass? Charlo is not good business. Barely fights. When he does, its against nobody anybody knows. Is not a headliner. So why does he deserve a ppv? Mind you, these are the same metrics “you guys” used for several years for other fighters who were deserving of fighting a champion but didnt because they didnt meet your standard of business, I mean boxing.

maybe they should fight opponents worthy of headlining cards? is that such a strange idea lol This in a nutshell, if you want to be a star fight some worthy opponents.

It charlo cant bring any viewers why would anyone consider putting him on ppv? And why would Canelo not do a ppv when he easily can? The answer. Charlo is not ready for a ppv. Doesnt fight enough for anyone but us to know who he is. Doesnt even fight decent names to get known when he does fight. Isn't Charlo the WBC mando for Canelo since he beat GGG? That or Charlo is the "regular" champ while Canelo is "unified" or whatever. So it isn't a case of whether he is "ready" for PPV it's he is due a fight and Canelo only fights on PPV. Sometimes you guys get so caught up in frivolous BS that you overlook the simplest reasons.

no. Canelo can carry a PPV by himself. If not, then make the same card on regular ESPN. They can afford it. It charlo cant bring any viewers why would anyone consider putting him on ppv? And why would Canelo not do a ppv when he easily can? The answer. Charlo is not ready for a ppv. Doesnt fight enough for anyone but us to know who he is. Doesnt even fight decent names to get known when he does fight.

Nobody knows who charlo is. Why would he get a ppv fight? Rumor has it Canelo went to a card he was on and asked 10 people if they knew who he was and nobody knew him. He needs to make a name for himself first dont you think? Ppvs are for the big dogs. Charlo is still eating kibbles n bits. no. Canelo can carry a PPV by himself. If not, then make the same card on regular ESPN. They can afford it.