Wilder fought Ortiz for 2million but wouldn't fight AJ for 15m??

Rumor has it , Wilder is going to punch the shyte out of Breazeale in a hotel lobby, one on one this time and knock 40% out of him that he demanded from Joshua which gets him 15.5 Million in coins falling out of Breazeales arse hole( using Wilder fan logic ) . :boxing: If i kept posting like this it would require no thought process , maybe i will become a Wilder fan ? lol :thinking: Well Donkey Wilder did beat up Dominic family for free already so this time he will beat Breazeale himself for his lunch money I suppose.

Donkey Wilder will make much more than 15m fighting Breazeale, you just wait and see!

I wouldn't say Wilder is eager to make the fight. AJ is certainly not in any hurry, but Wilder isn't going out of his way to get this done either. dude he accepted a flat fee to go to the uk. if thats not going out of his way, what is?

I really hate that argument... You should get what the fight is worth. I know the thread is like 300+ posts now, but I've said many times that I was being sarcastic and only applied the same logic as Wilder fans applied to Joshua - to make a point.

Yes, of course. Which is why Wilder has been more eager to make the fight. I have no problem saying AJ needs the fight less. The problem is his fans being tricked into thinking AJ is aggressively pursuing the fight when that's really not true. AJ's side has done everything possible to try to delay things. It's likely really only 4-5x. Not 10x. But still, it shows AJ needs the fight far less. I wouldn't say Wilder is eager to make the fight. AJ is certainly not in any hurry, but Wilder isn't going out of his way to get this done either.

I really hate that argument... You should get what the fight is worth.

It doesn't really make any sense. Having the opportunity to gain more belts no longer have any value. It's like not showing up in a job interview and demand compensation right away. It's like, "I'm not going to win, anyways."

The cold reality is that Wilder needs AJ more than AJ needs Wilder. Yes, of course. Which is why Wilder has been more eager to make the fight. I have no problem saying AJ needs the fight less. The problem is his fans being tricked into thinking AJ is aggressively pursuing the fight when that's really not true. AJ's side has done everything possible to try to delay things. AJ is earning 10x what Wilder earns per fight It's likely really only 4-5x. Not 10x. But still, it shows AJ needs the fight far less.

"joshua wont lose any sleep if wilder gets beat " I would disagree . Joshua actually wants the best possible resume and that idiot unfortunately would make any detractors silent , so he wants to be the first to knock him out . Im STILL assuming it does take place in Spring 2019 at Wembley . you could be right, maybe he does want the big unification undisputed event, cant argue it would be big night, only joshua knows his priority between cash, belts and wilder i tend to think he wouldnt mind a few more fights, loadz of cash and then wilder summer 2019 wembley, that sounds like a good plan, it sounds the best route for joshua to be honest, by a long way actually

The cold reality is that Wilder needs AJ more than AJ needs Wilder. AJ is earning 10x what Wilder earns per fight, plus all of his endorsements on top of that. There is NO ONE ELSE Wilder can fight for a 5-digit payday, meanwhile, AJ can earn $20M fighting Miller, Whyte, Ortiz, etc.

The problem /risk with that is Wilder getting knocked out in that time span . The reality is hes a top HW who really doesnt react well at times to punches and im assuring everyone Breazeale hits harder then Ortiz who hurts guys by timing them like he did Wilder .Breazeale will be the first TRUE heavy handed guy hes fought . Both should continue to win but Wilder is the guy most likely to take an L . As my post ? Yea they usually go over the head of the Wilder fan club, and im actually dumbing them down . lol joshua wont lose any sleep if wilder gets beat. Wilder is a dangerous opponent simply because of his weird angles power punch, if joshua gets all the belts without facing wilder he wont care. The fight will happen sometime regardless of other results. I will laugh so hard if this fight gets pushed back to next summer and the wilder fan boys having fits. Wilder can go back to fighting bums for a year, see you next year deo

AJ doesn't need 50 Million if he clears over 30 with hometown advantage . I know your somewhat new to the actual ins and outs but it wouldn't make sense to give all that up for an extra 10 /15 Million when you can generate 20 Million a fight . This is just pure common sense ,that you cant grasp ! Listen, that makes too much sense for wilder fan boys. They just cant put themselves in anyone elses boots except wilders!! Thats the problem with them. You cant even reason with them, bbbboooom sssqquuuaaddd baby yeah Joshua should at this stage fight povetkin in sept, some other good opponent in march and then make the wilder fight summer time in london in wembley, he will have close to 50 mil by the wilder fight and offer wilder 10X his payday and if he complains tell him to go **** himself, bombsquad!!! Reality check!!!!

AJ doesn't need 50 Million if he clears over 30 with hometown advantage . If the choices are 50 million in the US or 30 million in the UK, 20 million is a lot of money to leave on the table when you can be knocked out and your earning power is halved over night. I know your somewhat new to the actual ins and outs but it wouldn't make sense to give all that up for an extra 10 /15 Million when you can generate 20 Million a fight . Happy to compare credentials if you make it worth my while. This is just pure common sense ,that you cant grasp ! If it's such common sense, AJ wouldn't have said he'd sign tomorrow for 50 million. You can lose at any time. Career can end at any time. 50 million guaranteed is a lot to turn down.

i used to slag floyd off with his a side b side stuff but he did have a point, a side does have certain advantages, usually decides location, this gives you the ref and the judges for the most part, u force your opponent to travel, some travel well, some not so well, money, a side makes the most cash, usually a lot more. Joshua may get ko'ed in the uk, but he wont lose a decision to wilder there, thats a fact, if joshua wants he can fight a very conservative fight against wilder, if he tried that in the US, wilder would win a decision, they would find a way to give him the fight, thats boxing so joshua is totally correct in demanding the fight in the uk, its the only logical call for him

Floyd fans will say Wilder is getting low balled, talking about double standards. Yup what happened to the A side B side everyone was yapping about for so long? May could say 90/10 and the fan boys would yell A side!

Desperate fan boys trying to use earnings as a reason to duck a fight Casuals!

He wont answer it bc he knows the fight is not remotely 100 Million generated fight now unless hes retarded . Showtime guaranteed the money. If they lose money, who cares. AJ got his 50 million. Once his bluff was called, he had new excuses.

wilder is going to make about 10x his normal payday when the fight gets made, joshua maybe 2x his usual payday or even less, thats pretty good for both of them, especially wilder!!!!!! ffs hell if floyd is following this he would never offer wilder that much, never, wilder has never done a ppv and is a low selling fighter, he would be lucky to see 8 to 10 mil Floyd fans will say Wilder is getting low balled, talking about double standards.

wilder is going to make about 10x his normal payday when the fight gets made, joshua maybe 2x his usual payday or even less, thats pretty good for both of them, especially wilder!!!!!! ffs hell if floyd is following this he would never offer wilder that much, never, wilder has never done a ppv and is a low selling fighter, he would be lucky to see 8 to 10 mil

He wont answer it bc he knows the fight is not remotely 100 Million generated fight now unless hes retarded . ( which is a possibility ) WBC now claiming 6X his purse is meaningless like thats standard procedure ? :burnout: The 50 Million statement by Joshua is reference to splitting the fight with Wilder . These retards still havent figured out that Joshua is going to make CLOSE to 40 Million if this fight happens in 2019 , MAYBE more so the 50 Million is pointless when considering home field advantage which IS standard for the ONE generating the money even getting closer to 30 . @ Wilder fan girls , dont you realise Finkel was pushing for an END of year fight anyway but you want to pass blame on Hearn for not wanting the fight NEXT . Dont you idiots not see the contradiction here ? :poke: Mathematically there is no way for Joshua to make $50 million if the fight is in the UK. Not this year, not next year, not at all. The gates and PPV prices are too low. You need big U.S. revenues to do that. And no one knows who Joshua is in the U.S.