Wilder sued Povetkin, Ledbedev sued Jones (Don King) so why not?
Perhaps Loeffler is smarter than we think? (or perhaps not lol).
No one can make any argument whatsoever that the May 5th cancellation was not 100% Canelo's fault (whether deliberate action or merely negligent). So maybe the strategy here is to torpedo the negotiations, let GGG fight Derev or Charlo next, and use the reduced earnings as evidence of damages against Canelo. It would actually be pretty smart (unless of course he lost to either guy, then obviously they would look retarded).
And unlike Povetkin or Jones, a good portion of Canelos earnings come via US PPV revenue, so collecting on any judgement would be a piece of cake.
Not sure if this is their strategy, but it certainly would put some $$$$ in their pocket.......
Oscar said that Donald Trump cheats at golf, and he didn't get sued.
He probably would if he wasn't president when he was asking to see Obama's birth certificate to see if he was American Bill Maher got used by him for saying he wants to see his birth certificate because he believes his mother was some orange monkey at the N.Y. zoo
The reporter asked him to explain why he said canelo was dirty in the first fight even through he passed all the test then and ggg said 3 doctors sent him video and pictures of injection sights on his body and canelo taking pills at the weight in if that's not enough he also said Oscar was a cheat too but that last part was probably out of jealousy since Oscar moved up 6 times and he couldn't even do it once.
Oscar said that Donald Trump cheats at golf, and he didn't get sued.
That's not the way it works. Golovkin was giving his opinion on Canelo failing 2 PED tests, which is something that actually happened. He can't be sued for that.
The reporter asked him to explain why he said canelo was dirty in the first fight even through he passed all the test then and ggg said 3 doctors sent him video and pictures of injection sights on his body and canelo taking pills at the weight in if that's not enough he also said Oscar was a cheat too but that last part was probably out of jealousy since Oscar moved up 6 times and he couldn't even do it once.
He tested for trace levels of it 2 weeks from start of camp They still would have to prove he intentionally took it and those levels he had were to low to even treat asthma which is what the drug was made for and they can also use his knee surgery as a 2nd reason he pulled out
That's not the way it works. Golovkin was giving his opinion on Canelo failing 2 PED tests, which is something that actually happened. He can't be sued for that.
NSAC and WADA did not conclude that Canelo's test failure was caused by accidental Mexican meat contamination and the hair follicle test is irrelevant when it comes to suing GGG because, whether it was in his hair sample or not, Canelo was suspending for testing positive for clen in his urine twice, and that's what he got suspended for.
He tested for trace levels of it 2 weeks from start of camp They still would have to prove he intentionally took it and those levels he had were to low to even treat asthma which is what the drug was made for and they can also use his knee surgery as a 2nd reason he pulled out
He said it as fact that he already knew since the first fight seeing pics and vids of him taking the drugs having needle marks and big muscles
Ggg was reckless making judgment before the case which Nevada and Wada concluded was accidental MexicAn meat contamination was complete
Ggg credibility about wanting the fight will come up since he told the media he still wants and expects the fight but behind the scenes he had his promoter send a letter to nsac stating that they must suspend canelo and that they will sue nsac if they don't stop the fight and ggg gets hurt also refusing the sign the rescheduled rematch
Canelo getting suspended is not Nevada saying he was intentionally using they have a strict liability rule that states if there's something in your body that's not allowed your responsible even if for example there was security footage of a waiter dropping crushed up clen on your food
The hair test found no evidence of clen if he had took the amount of the drug to trigger the desired fat burning side effect he would of failed.espn received documents from Nevada for canelo with his signature stating since hair test are not part of there testing its completely voluntary and he will be liable for anything they find and will be charged with new charges and fined.that documents gives him credibility in court showing he's got nothing to hide and wasn't doping
NSAC and WADA did not conclude that Canelo's test failure was caused by accidental Mexican meat contamination and the hair follicle test is irrelevant when it comes to suing GGG because, whether it was in his hair sample or not, Canelo was suspending for testing positive for clen in his urine twice, and that's what he got suspended for.
Canelo failed a PED test and got suspended as a result.
The evidence pointed to the possibilty of accidental contamination, but Canelo couldn't prove it, which is why he got suspended
GGG is entitled to give his opinion on that, which is that Canelo deliberately cheated. To sue Golovkin, Canelo would have to prove that he didn't cheat, and he can't do that, otherwise he would never have been suspended.
The hair follicle test is not conclusive one way or the other, and the result wasn't obtained until after GGG had made those comments.
He said it as fact that he already knew since the first fight seeing pics and vids of him taking the drugs having needle marks and big muscles
Ggg was reckless making judgment before the case which Nevada and Wada concluded was accidental MexicAn meat contamination was complete
Ggg credibility about wanting the fight will come up since he told the media he still wants and expects the fight but behind the scenes he had his promoter send a letter to nsac stating that they must suspend canelo and that they will sue nsac if they don't stop the fight and ggg gets hurt also refusing the sign the rescheduled rematch
Canelo getting suspended is not Nevada saying he was intentionally using they have a strict liability rule that states if there's something in your body that's not allowed your responsible even if for example there was security footage of a waiter dropping crushed up clen on your food
The hair test found no evidence of clen if he had took the amount of the drug to trigger the desired fat burning side effect he would of failed.espn received documents from Nevada for canelo with his signature stating since hair test are not part of there testing its completely voluntary and he will be liable for anything they find and will be charged with new charges and fined.that documents gives him credibility in court showing he's got nothing to hide and wasn't doping
He would get quickly countered with multiple lawsuits from canelo Oscar retired fighter and GBP promotions for his defamatory statements saying canelo injected and took steroid pills at the weigh in front of 100 cameras was dirty for the first fight the glove bs Oscar and his company being dirty.ggg already hurt himself in the suit by fighting on the 5th and refusing to fight his mandatory leading to him getting stripped and the letter he had tom send to Nevada stating they must suspend canelo.canelos defence can be his knee surgery and the off camp clen traces in his system were from the meat from a country with a wide spread problem with vada Wada experts in the field concluding that all the evidence including the hair test points to accidental contamination.
Canelo failed a PED test and got suspended as a result.
The evidence pointed to the possibilty of accidental contamination, but Canelo couldn't prove it, which is why he got suspended
GGG is entitled to give his opinion on that, which is that Canelo deliberately cheated. To sue Golovkin, Canelo would have to prove that he didn't cheat, and he can't do that, otherwise he would never have been suspended.
The hair follicle test is not conclusive one way or the other, and the result wasn't obtained until after GGG had made those comments.
If you all want some true insight, by an actual lawyer, go to YouTube and search Dwyer Boxing. He is a good lawyer and breaks down the possibility of suits vs counter suits. That might help some of the debate..... he breaks it down in layman’s terms as well, for those of you not used to court lingo.
Canelo pulled out of the fight of his own free will, before he was suspended
That's something I've been wondering about. GBP have lawyers doe. I presume they were consulted before Canelo took that decision.
Are you going to admit that Shadoww702 was right and you were wrong about Golovkin asking for a 50/50 split?
Or are you just going to try to ignore it and pretend it didn't happen so that maybe it will go away?
dude, WTF is wrong with you? Shadow and I already put that nonsense to rest and have moved on.
For the record, I do not consider reading media reports to be on par with having inside sources. Once something is out in a credible media source, it is no longer a "rumor" that someone "heard".
But if it makes your life complete, then fine, I was wrong, Shadow was right, and now you can take some sort of bizarre comfort in that, even though none of this had anything to do with you.
Your job as Captain Avenger of the Internet is now completed.
says the guy so afraid of his own comments that he has to hide his identity under a fake screen name.
Are you going to admit that Shadoww702 was right and you were wrong about Golovkin asking for a 50/50 split?
Or are you just going to try to ignore it and pretend it didn't happen so that maybe it will go away?
i wouldnt count on it...terry is one of those females who wont admit hes wrong cause its the internet and he doenst have to look anyone in the eye
says the guy who is so afraid of his own comments that he has to hide his identity under a fake screen name.
It must really suck to live your life in such fear.
GGG gonna line up BJS for September, then sue coke la hoya for lost revenue because his fighter is a drug cheat coward. Coke la hoya and his chica won't be laughing then, they'll be scrambling to get that Spike deal signed, lolol.
I doubt litigation is going to result from this. I'm sure there would have been a break clause in the contract allowing Canelo to pull out in case of any extraordinary event, and even if there wasn't, a judge would likely just declare the contract frustrated. Venue and date would have been explicitly part of the terms and conditions, and Canelo being suspended in the entire state on that particular date means he wouldn't be able to perform his obligations under the contract, therefore the contract is frustrated and therefore void. Sure, for a contract to be frustrated rather than breached there needs to be no fault on either party's behalf, but GBP's slick lawyers and paid experts will come forth, start presenting hair tests, poke holes in the science behind the testing etc. and ultimately put forward the case that the tests are unreliable and that there's no indisputable proof that Canelo did anything wrong, and I can see the judge awarding that point in their favour.
At any rate, win or lose, litigation is expensive and time-consuming. Better for now to just try and renegotiate the original contract in order to get a bigger slice of the purse, and only contemplate a lawsuit once negotiations completely fall apart.
Under the VADA rules it's 100% the fighters responsibility to ensure they are PED free. There are no accidents..
Shadoww702 said that he heard Golovkin was asking for a 50/50 split.
You told him he heard no such thing.
Are you ready to admit you were wrong and take your L?
i wouldnt count on it...terry is one of those females who wont admit hes wrong cause its the internet and he doenst have to look anyone in the eye
All said AFTER Canelo failed 2 drug tests, NEWSFLASH, HE WAS DIRTY
He said canelo and team purposely took drugs and Oscar too.in court vada and Wada would say that looking at all evidence including a historic hair test never before done by a boxer showed it was a innocent case of contamination
This is Canelo. This is his team. This is his promotion. Canelo is cheating. They're using these drugs
Canelo tested + almost 3months before the rematch never in the first before the fight and in the immediate post fight test
"Before the first fight, I knew he was not clean. I can talk about Oscar De La Hoya too. He is also not clean. He's dirty."