Welterweights a weak division, Tito or donald curry would be wrecking shop today

They should be fighting eachother

I'm not even sure if Brook was overrated. I think we'll never know. He had one notable opponent before GGG which was Porter, which he won but that move up to fight GGG was bad in the long run. It essentially damaged any chance of doing anything significant again at WW because he was never going to get back down to that weight in a fit state. But i suppose you gotta take those paydays when you can get them. I think he's a good fighter and not taking anything away from Spence's win, but i think Spence caught him at the best time possible. I think that fight would've been different if Brook hadn't dropped 2 divisions. I'd like to see Spence fight a top WW that is in condition to compete properly, although to be fair to him, nobody is really jumping at the chance to fight him. I agree with you. A fighter moving up 1 division (much less 2) is never the same moving down and he did take a helluva beating vs GGG. He did hold his own in spots but honestly Ive been in and around boxing gyms to know you put a good WW in with a good MW into spar, well its only a matter of time usually 3rds. The welter will always have the sneakiness/speed but again its just a matter of time. As for the Porter win, it was a good win (don't get me wrong) but I think a lot of times as boxing fans we are quick to forget how close fights were. That decision was razor thin. And lets not make Porter out to be some beast either, it was just 2 fights prior he fought to a wel deserved draw against an old mediocre LW. Porter is a tuff as nails/gritty guy but hed be a mere gatekeeper maybe even a journeyman in a different era. And I am not 1 of these guys to brag about days of times past. Good post though man, I don't disagree with you at all. Just a lil different perspective. & yes Id like to see Spence fight some1 willing and prime. I salivate at the thought of Spence vs Crawford and the sooner the better.

I forgot to mention those little details lol but yeah that adds to my point. I'm not even sure if Brook was overrated. I think we'll never know. He had one notable opponent before GGG which was Porter, which he won but that move up to fight GGG was bad in the long run. It essentially damaged any chance of doing anything significant again at WW because he was never going to get back down to that weight in a fit state. But i suppose you gotta take those paydays when you can get them. I think he's a good fighter and not taking anything away from Spence's win, but i think Spence caught him at the best time possible. I think that fight would've been different if Brook hadn't dropped 2 divisions. I'd like to see Spence fight a top WW that is in condition to compete properly, although to be fair to him, nobody is really jumping at the chance to fight him.

Tito would either be the GOAT or a bum feasting on a weak division depending on whom you ask here. I think today's batch is good. Thurman is a solid guy, Spence is a very good fighter (though not great) and Crawford is a great fighter (though we don't know how he'll be at the weight). Garcia, Porter are solid guys too. I think Crawford would actually beat all but Tito from that 90's crew and the early 90's Whitaker. Spence I could see having moments with Quartey but spending most of the fight getting jabbed to death and he'd be easily outboxed by De La Hoya and Whitaker. His best shot would be Jose Luis Lopez that's probably 50/50. I don't think Thurman would have much of a chance with any of those guys. Same for Garcia. That was a golden generation. Donald Curry at his best would be a firm favorite over all of today's guys too. You look at Curry in his prime and it's crazy how he never became a hall of fame lock or great fighter. Crawford has not defeated anyone to think that he could beat Oscar, Mosley, Curry, Or Quartely.

Well, then it was a badly drained overrated fighter who dropped 2 divisions after coming off a bad beating v the most dangerous Middleweight in the world. I forgot to mention those little details lol but yeah that adds to my point.

I think Spence would be a hard fight for any welterweight. Tito was better than Curry. Today's boxers never do well in fantasy fights with greats from the past. Spence can beat any welterweight he can actually fight today but he can't beat ghosts from the past. It's impossible. floyd mayweather would have done just fine in fantasy fights against most top WW. the only guys i'd pick to really wipe the floor with him are robinson, leonard, and hearns, and they're not only three of the best WW ever, but three very big, robust WW with power ranging from very good to some of the best ever. i think he beats donald curry and trinidad. tito might hurt him, but floyd's movement would have him lost at sea, and floyd's chin was actually pretty f#cking good! i think he'd be whooping tito's ass by the end f the fight! only thing tito really does better is punch and he's big.

IDK what Spence has done for people to exclude him as the only exceptional current WW. People are really hyping the guy for beating Kell Brook who in my opinion was/is one of the most overrated current boxers. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Spence is a bad fighter but if Kell Brook was beating him to the punch... Well, then it was a badly drained overrated fighter who dropped 2 divisions after coming off a bad beating v the most dangerous Middleweight in the world.

Tito would either be the GOAT or a bum feasting on a weak division depending on whom you ask here. I think today's batch is good. Thurman is a solid guy, Spence is a very good fighter (though not great) and Crawford is a great fighter (though we don't know how he'll be at the weight). Garcia, Porter are solid guys too. I think Crawford would actually beat all but Tito from that 90's crew and the early 90's Whitaker. Spence I could see having moments with Quartey but spending most of the fight getting jabbed to death and he'd be easily outboxed by De La Hoya and Whitaker. His best shot would be Jose Luis Lopez that's probably 50/50. I don't think Thurman would have much of a chance with any of those guys. Same for Garcia. That was a golden generation. Donald Curry at his best would be a firm favorite over all of today's guys too. You look at Curry in his prime and it's crazy how he never became a hall of fame lock or great fighter.

True.The 147 pound division been weak for a while. How about when the division had Leonard, Duran, Hearns and Benitez all competing at the same time? Then picture Guerrero and Danny Garcia fighting for the vacant WW title. SMH

Right now there are no generational fighters at the division. Trinidad is a generational fighter. Meaning that you can put him in any fighting generation and he would compete to be a champ. Spence is still young, but he has the potential to be that. Thurman has pulled the biggest Houdini move since Garry Russel. I can't believe he has still not fought a cab driver. Terrence Crawford is also a generational fighter.

IDK what Spence has done for people to exclude him as the only exceptional current WW. People are really hyping the guy for beating Kell Brook who in my opinion was/is one of the most overrated current boxers. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Spence is a bad fighter but if Kell Brook was beating him to the punch... It mostly comes down to his frame for me. Porter Pacquiao, Thurman, Garcia, etc are all small as hell compared to Oscar, Tito, etc.

I don't think the skill level is less, I think the current crop are talented, but they are a little undersized, and from that point I agree, head to head they would lose to a lot of the names mentioned. I don't think it's the strongest WW era we have seen, but I definitely would not describe it as weak. Maybe a little small in stature.

IDK what Spence has done for people to exclude him as the only exceptional current WW. People are really hyping the guy for beating Kell Brook who in my opinion was/is one of the most overrated current boxers. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Spence is a bad fighter but if Kell Brook was beating him to the punch...

Today’s athletes are stronger, faster, and smarter. The only thing some of the older athletes had going was NO TESTING for PEDs. A lot of the guys named above are overrated themselves Stop trying to discredit the new generation Everybody the TS names would probably get brutally KO’d by Julian the hawk Jackson.

Boxing fans always romanticize the past with the past fighters always beating the current crop of modern fighters When Tito was running things, fans would say he couldn’t compete with the likes of Leonard or Hearns When Leonard and Hearns were doing their thing they couldn’t compete with Emille Griffin or Sugar Ray Robinson and before that Henry Armstrong Coulda , shoulda , woulda who gives a f.uck they’ll never fight and are from different eras just appreciate the past fighters for what they accomplished and the current crop for what they are doing

I think Spence would be a hard fight for any welterweight. Tito was better than Curry. Today's boxers never do well in fantasy fights with greats from the past. Spence can beat any welterweight he can actually fight today but he can't beat ghosts from the past. It's impossible.

Nothing but truth here.

Very overrated division currently.

Ike Quartey would probably beat all of them also except maybe Spence. Maybe I agree, That whole late 90s crew would wreck shop today.. Tito Oscar Ike Shane Vernon Now that was a great welter division