The guys has beaten Walters, Russel Jr, Rigo, and Linares. All these guys are A-LEVEL fighters. We give guys like Thurman, Crawford, Spence, Wilder, Joshua, Fury, The Charlos, and Mikey so much credit but none of these guys have beaten the quality of fighters that Loma has beaten. Let's just appreciate the phenomenal talent that we are witnessing. The boxing community is becoming one big race war.
The guys has beaten Walters, Russel Jr, Rigo, and Linares. All these guys are A-LEVEL fighters. We give guys like Thurman, Crawford, Spence, Wilder, Joshua, Fury, The Charlos, and Mikey so much credit but none of these guys have beaten the quality of fighters that Loma has beaten. Let's just appreciate the phenomenal talent that we are witnessing. The boxing community is becoming one big race war.
Nice post. Glad you're a realist and don't let a thing like race dictate your better judgement.
Could you tell me which black American fighters lost to a fighter at Salido's level who then went on to have a good career after but was denied credit because, according to you, there is no coming back from that?
there is no coming back from losing. losers are losers. period. if you lose that makes you a loser. loma is a loser. trump and floyd are winners and therefore great people. they deserve all the money and hookers
1. He's not black (how many threads lead with that? "I'm whoevers ethnicity" that way I can give my argument credibility.
I'm black american, I grew up in America, and if youre white in America, you get more credit for certain things than if a Black guy does it. FACTS (there's more attention Example: Just a few years ago, if you "Boxed" it was boring (floyd), now its great if you have the right skin color. Thats America, dont fall for the "branding" they hate successful black people:usaribbon
Look at the comments about Floyd's fighting style, look at when he was supposed to fight Chino, Salido did what THAT delegation wanted done to Floyd, Salido ran over his ass comming straight forward, where was his boxing IQ (he supposed to have according to his fans)
Look at americas history. We are just holding him to the standards you set for Floyd, the same crap you spoke about one fighter is now DIFFERENT, if Youre black and you lose to Salido, there is no coming back from that. History speaks for itself in this case, so you cant trust certain people opinion because, you saw the election, KKKLAN rally, "their are some good people over there", NFL players protesting (how this country was founded....protest), They are some "sons of b|thces":fu2:
Could you tell me which black American fighters lost to a fighter at Salido's level who then went on to have a good career after but was denied credit because, according to you, there is no coming back from that?
The first 2 were great movies. Rocky 3 was entertaining, but that’s when it started getting cartoonish. Never saw the last one.
Yeah some of the later ones were crap. I remember now. The last one was called Creed. It's a step up more character development better written and acting.
The first was the best. The last one can't recall the name, was excellent.The first 2 were great movies. Rocky 3 was entertaining, but that’s when it started getting cartoonish. Never saw the last one.
These fools wish Lomachenko was black!!! They'd be outta of their minds they would call loma the best ever! gayweather jr would be forgotten. hilariously Lomachenko has utterly dominated every black fighter he's faced. I want loma to keep winning just to laugh at their reactions I wasn't a big fan of loma but I am now due to him making the demographic delirious!!! Keep making em mad Lomachenko!!!
Im white. I like Spence. I like his body attack and his calmness in the ring. Is he top P4P? Don't care... I just enjoy watching him fight.
I'm white I don't like Ward I don't like his bending of the rules.
I'm white and I like Golovkin. I like fighters that come forward and seek and destroy.
I'm white and Tommy Hearns is in the top two of my favorite fighters ever. I love his heart, power and world class boxing skills.
I'm white and Duran is the other guy in my top two list. I love his ruthlessness and incredible infighting skills.Cool. I’m black and rocky is a great movie series lol.
130 Berchelt or Tank
135 a solid top 10 right handed tune up like Beltran, Commey or Crolla then Easter/Mickey winner.
140 Relikh who just beat Barthelimy for a 4th division title
Loma need to grow a bit more into 135 and fix some stuff. He's not fully ready. So 12 rounds against a Beltran would be good, Beltran is bigger, goes to the body well, cutt off the ring well, went 12 with Bud, not an easy fight for lil Lomo.
IMO the best 3 P4P fighters are Mickey, Bud and Loma where you can make a case for any of them as P4P kings.
Mickey is slightly bigger than Loma, so they need a solid prep with at least one tune up to be ready for a P4P clash at 135, see they will have 2 fights and fight Mickey early 2019 IMO.
It will be a good clash, yeah Mickey is a beast and smart but he isn't not that fast and active, there is a fight IMOYea a Beltran tune up before the clash with Mickey could be interesting. I see the Mickey fight being more than a year off tho.
lol you need to work on your reading comprehension skills. I never said GGG wasn't skilled, he is skilled at different aspects in comparison to someone like floyd or loma. What i was saying is that people like you, and the basic casual boxing fan always found ways to hate highly skilled and technical boxers like floyd for example.
Bu bu but GGG is exciting, comes forward and takes punishment and is always looking for the KO!!" Thats how you guys used to sound. Now that loma is around those same people love watching highly technical boxers and can now really appreciate the "sweet science" :lol1:
and your "racism" claim is complete bullsht. HBO and the boxing media have been trying for YEARS to make GGG into a superstar. Hyped him like he was some unstoppable beast even though he was fighting weak competition, always had him highly ranked on p4p lists, etc. The same goes for Kovalev to a lesser attempt. The boxing media constantly hyped him up, had him highly ranked on p4p lists and went crazy when he beat bernard hopkins despite him being like 50 years old. Lol you know if floyd beat a a guy in his 50's no one would give him credit LMAO.
:usa: :lol1:
I have been saying for a while HBO (mainly Merchant) were haters/racist towards Floyd, well, against him despite Floyd being their cash cow, it fired back to them when Floyd left.
You’re making it about race though. Why can’t you just let people have their opinions and evaluate them on their merit instead of making it about race? I’m black and I can tell you that there are plenty of blacks who are on the loma train. Maybe it’s not the majority of black boxing fans, but there are plenty of blacks who believe in his hype.
I’m not even saying that he’s not going to end up being an atg. I’m just saying don’t write off black people who aren’t completely sold yet as racist just because. There’s nothing wrong with thinking Spence is higher on the p4p list at this point. It really doesn’t matter. They’re both young and we will all get to see how their careers play out.
Im white. I like Spence. I like his body attack and his calmness in the ring. Is he top P4P? Don't care... I just enjoy watching him fight.
I'm white I don't like Ward I don't like his bending of the rules.
I'm white and I like Golovkin. I like fighters that come forward and seek and destroy.
I'm white and Tommy Hearns is in the top two of my favorite fighters ever. I love his heart, power and world class boxing skills.
I'm white and Duran is the other guy in my top two list. I love his ruthlessness and incredible infighting skills.
Respect.
As a fan who’d you rather see loma face next?
130 Berchelt or Tank
135 a solid top 10 right handed tune up like Beltran, Commey or Crolla then Easter/Mickey winner.
140 Relikh who just beat Barthelimy for a 4th division title
Loma need to grow a bit more into 135 and fix some stuff. He's not fully ready. So 12 rounds against a Beltran would be good, Beltran is bigger, goes to the body well, cutt off the ring well, went 12 with Bud, not an easy fight for lil Lomo.
IMO the best 3 P4P fighters are Mickey, Bud and Loma where you can make a case for any of them as P4P kings.
Mickey is slightly bigger than Loma, so they need a solid prep with at least one tune up to be ready for a P4P clash at 135, see they will have 2 fights and fight Mickey early 2019 IMO.
It will be a good clash, yeah Mickey is a beast and smart but he isn't not that fast and active, there is a fight IMO
Because GGG isn't a skillfull fighter? GGG has high stalking skills, shifting and arm blocking tricks,
but you just don't know sht about boxing.
I never did prefer one style at all, I just like good active and down to earth fighters.
You're just talking sht at this point, and yeah I destroyed your argument trying to deny racism towards white fighters.
You're just trying to defend your racist pass wich is cool.
When the guy brings up "they did the same with Floyd", using the past as an excuse you know you're dealing with a racist LOL
lol you need to work on your reading comprehension skills. I never said GGG wasn't skilled, he is skilled at different aspects in comparison to someone like floyd or loma. What i was saying is that people like you, and the basic casual boxing fan always found ways to hate highly skilled and technical boxers like floyd for example.
Bu bu but GGG is exciting, comes forward and takes punishment and is always looking for the KO!!" Thats how you guys used to sound. Now that loma is around those same people love watching highly technical boxers and can now really appreciate the "sweet science" :lol1:
and your "racism" claim is complete bullsht. HBO and the boxing media have been trying for YEARS to make GGG into a superstar. Hyped him like he was some unstoppable beast even though he was fighting weak competition, always had him highly ranked on p4p lists, etc. The same goes for Kovalev to a lesser attempt. The boxing media constantly hyped him up, had him highly ranked on p4p lists and went crazy when he beat bernard hopkins despite him being like 50 years old. Lol you know if floyd beat a a guy in his 50's no one would give him credit LMAO.
:usa: :lol1:
The guys has beaten Walters, Russel Jr, Rigo, and Linares. All these guys are A-LEVEL fighters. We give guys like Thurman, Crawford, Spence, Wilder, Joshua, Fury, The Charlos, and Mikey so much credit but none of these guys have beaten the quality of fighters that Loma has beaten. Let's just appreciate the phenomenal talent that we are witnessing. The boxing community is becoming one big race war.
The forum is a cesspool of ignorance and racial division. I hope people hear you and think about what you wrote.
You’re making it about race though. Why can’t you just let people have their opinions and evaluate them on their merit instead of making it about race? I’m black and I can tell you that there are plenty of blacks who are on the loma train. Maybe it’s not the majority of black boxing fans, but there are plenty of blacks who believe in his hype.
I’m not even saying that he’s not going to end up being an atg. I’m just saying don’t write off black people who aren’t completely sold yet as racist just because. There’s nothing wrong with thinking Spence is higher on the p4p list at this point. It really doesn’t matter. They’re both young and we will all get to see how their careers play out.
You got a point, I understand what you mean, peace dude.
That sentence is the worst thing I ever read in my life TBH. I mean read it again and laugh at yourself, that's some elementary school stuff.
Regarding Linares, I NEVER predicted an easy fight. You just need to put words I never said in my mouth to have a point.
Bookers are just dumb, they had Lacey beating Calzaghe.
Styles make fights and bookers always go wrong.
Then if it's all about the hype, why Latinos who are big boxing fans aren't hating that much against that so called Loma hype?
Why always the same cats Dontae dudes hating on him? I mean, the world is big...
Why is GGG packing avenues with mexican fans?
That's right, most afro americans won't appreciate non black fighters.
Look at Spence, he's all hype at this point, he lost all his big fights in top amateur tournaments, got schooled bad by Sapyev twice from Kazakhstan, then won his single world pro belt beating up Brook coming of a TKO loss. But dude is P4P over Loma according to many brothas. Check me when Spence beat a solid middleweight champ to get his 3rd division title.
That's what I call unearned hype, Loma earned his hype with 2 olympic titles in 2 divisions and 3 pro title in 3 divisions.
I agree that hype goes too far sometimes, but dudes is special with special record to back it up (unlike Spence for example).
You’re making it about race though. Why can’t you just let people have their opinions and evaluate them on their merit instead of making it about race? I’m black and I can tell you that there are plenty of blacks who are on the loma train. Maybe it’s not the majority of black boxing fans, but there are plenty of blacks who believe in his hype.
I’m not even saying that he’s not going to end up being an atg. I’m just saying don’t write off black people who aren’t completely sold yet as racist just because. There’s nothing wrong with thinking Spence is higher on the p4p list at this point. It really doesn’t matter. They’re both young and we will all get to see how their careers play out.
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