Topic about loma getting dropped : right hands being southpaws nightmare

His movement is also something he should work a bit more on. It gets repetitive when he keeps moving to the right and his opponents can pick up his rhythm in the latter rounds if he is not careful. One thing I commend him for is he is always looking for a fight. He went on the inside and threw combos instead of going in and out the whole fight even though that is a perfectly fine way of winning. that one move he does when he angles to the right and slides to the side of his opponent, someone could possibly have a left hook waiting for him one day. I don't know anyone who could do it, but it's dangerous to repeatedly do that throughout the fight. Linares caught on to it and was spinning with him at times so he didn't do it anymore in the fight

His movement is also something he should work a bit more on. It gets repetitive when he keeps moving to the right and his opponents can pick up his rhythm in the latter rounds if he is not careful. One thing I commend him for is he is always looking for a fight. He went on the inside and threw combos instead of going in and out the whole fight even though that is a perfectly fine way of winning. His footwork is fantastic and unique. His head and body movements are good but need to be great. Loma is short and active at the same time, he's exposed to short crisp counters, something mickey masters by the way

I posted this in another thread, People got mad when I said Lomachenko was susceptible to the lead right hand, one even called me a dunce, assuming I didn't know this is the usual case against southpaws. It's far more apparent with Lomachenko because he likes to antagonize his opponents from mid range, squaring up, looking to run them into counters. It's something that many needed to look at. A good example is Pernell Whitaker, the distinct difference is that Whitaker squared up more so when he started showboating and guys like McGirt/ Roger Mayweather who possessed very good lead right hands were able to drop him. Lomachenko looks like a far more presentable target for lead right hands which is why I shake my head at those who think he could have tangled with Morales or Marquez. That remains to be seen. It's gonna be far more dangerous if or when he faces Mickey Garcia, that fight will allow me to rate Lomachenko better. At this point I can say Lomachenko is a very good fighter, I don't see great as of yet. To add to it, Linares' lead right hand is decent at best and no don't even try to convince me otherwise, I've followed Linares' career. He throws it like a fast ball at times without turning into it. This is why DeMarco kept coming. That's the best straight lead right hand Lomachenko has gone up against too, now in comparison to Garcia's :nonono:

I just made a post in another thread about his pitty pat jabs. A trainer once told me to never throw multiple pitty pat jabs thru a fight because someone will time it and bad things will happen. He got a little too confident, but he also got caught in the 9th round and imo he was hurt pretty bad but Linares either wasn't aware of it or was too tired to do anything about it. That combo shook him up, but he has a great poker face. I saw he was hurt because he wasn't throwing any punches back and pressing forward to hide it. Tyson talked about that in his book. He talked about catching Pinklon Thomas with some shots and he stood right there. Tyson said he knew the guy was hurt but he hid it well so he just kept pouring it on anyway. Yeah, Calzaghe got dropped a lot with that pitty pat sht. I think Loma need to take a page of Sweet Pea D, bend more his knees and duck straight punches. Pernell got dropped a lot early in his career, Roger may like I said, but Williams and Layne too, he became then a defensive wizzards versus beasts like Chavez, Tito and Oscar.

Just because Linares didn’t knock Lomachenko out with that right hand doesn’t mean Linares can’t punch just as hard as Garcia. Lomachenko is in almost superhuman condition and has a rock solid chin. Can he be knocked out? Sure, anyone can be. But at 135 it would take an accumulation of punches that Lomachenko is not likely to sit still and absorb. He’s far too smart and quick for Garcia to sustain any kind of effective attack, and Garcia lacks his lateral movement and speed.

It’s hilarious that you would comment critically on Loma’s movement. He has the best footwork in boxing history according to every expert commentator who’s been asked. And there’s the small matter of him knocking Linares TFO with a body shot. Had the ref let Linares continue, Linares would have been badly hurt, cut up on both eyes and knocked out by the middle of the next round assuming he survived the remainder of the 10th. I didn’t see Linares protesting the stoppage while he sat on his stool for five minutes trying to recover from that liver shot Lomachenko put on him. It’s stupid to second guess a guy that knocked out a 4 time world champion who outweighed him by 15 pounds, had a 3 inch reach advantage and speed and power in both hands. Loma had to figure Linares out on the fly, then dissect him — which is precisely what he did: getting inside Linares’ reach, freezing him in place by stepping on his feet and landing in combination.

His movement is also something he should work a bit more on. It gets repetitive when he keeps moving to the right and his opponents can pick up his rhythm in the latter rounds if he is not careful. One thing I commend him for is he is always looking for a fight. He went on the inside and threw combos instead of going in and out the whole fight even though that is a perfectly fine way of winning.

I honestly I think the main problem was he wasn't showing enough variety in attack so Linares was able to time him. Like Loma said after the fight "he knew about that shot" (obviously) but he just got careless.

Straight right, Left hook are the 2 shots that kill SouthpawsStraight left and right hook are the two shots that southpaws kill right handed fighters with. Neither has any built in advantage over the other. The better fighter will win regardless of stance. In fact the southpaw may have a slight advantage since he fights right handed fighters more often than right handers fight southpaws.

That right hand was a great punch but Linares threw it, not Mikey.Loma was up quickly and went on to score the KO. Loma has a great straight left and he can drop right handed fighters with it. Right handers have no built in advantage over southpaws. They are just as vulnerable to a straight left as a southpaw is to a straight right.Look at most pound for pound top 10 best lists and Loma and Mikey will both be on it but Loma wlll be ranked higher than Mikey. This was Loma's first ever knockdown and Mikey has also been knocked down, If Loma fights Mikey at 135 I think Loma will win.

I wasn't surprised about this. And Loma better work on this, he's no superman and it was a good wake up call. Southpaws tends to get dropped by right hands if their defense isn't perfect or they go careless. Southpaws are most of the time involved in "clash of stances" versus orthodox fighters and so are vulnerable to their opponents right/stronger hand (just like orthodox fighters are vulnerable to SP's stronger left hand). Boxing history has good examples with the left handed greats: -Manny getting slept by a JMM right hand . -Moore got put to sleep by a big Georges straight right. -Sweet pea got dropped by a Roger May right hand. -Calzaghe got dropped by a B Hop, Mitchell and Roys right hand. Regarding Loma, he better take a page of sweet pea's D. Pernell suffered a lot of KD early in his career, Roger May but also versus Williams and Layne, he ended as one of the most uncatchable fighter of all time. Loma better fix some stuff cuz right now he's not really passing the Mickey test TBH. I just made a post in another thread about his pitty pat jabs. A trainer once told me to never throw multiple pitty pat jabs thru a fight because someone will time it and bad things will happen. He got a little too confident, but he also got caught in the 9th round and imo he was hurt pretty bad but Linares either wasn't aware of it or was too tired to do anything about it. That combo shook him up, but he has a great poker face. I saw he was hurt because he wasn't throwing any punches back and pressing forward to hide it. Tyson talked about that in his book. He talked about catching Pinklon Thomas with some shots and he stood right there. Tyson said he knew the guy was hurt but he hid it well so he just kept pouring it on anyway.

Straight right, Left hook are the 2 shots that kill Southpaws

This is an excellent post but you probably won't get a lot responses because you're being somewhat critical of Lomachenko. However you're absolutely right. Lomachenko has to fix this but I'm not sure how he can do it. The reason I say that is because it's hard to change when he has the kind of success he's been having. Everything comes easy to him. I don't like that he's saying he was too relaxed. Yes he was but he always does that when he thinks he's in control of a fight. All it takes is for someone to land that perfect punch. I guarantee Mikey Garcia can land that punch and it will be a lot harder. Mikey is just too big for him. Lomo can outbox him but one punch from Garcia and it's over. Garcia is a very good fighter so there is no way he won't land on Lomo's chin. Can't see Lomo beating him but you never know.

I wasn't surprised about this. And Loma better work on this, he's no superman and it was a good wake up call. Southpaws tends to get dropped by right hands if their defense isn't perfect or they go careless. Southpaws are most of the time involved in "clash of stances" versus orthodox fighters and so are vulnerable to their opponents right/stronger hand (just like orthodox fighters are vulnerable to SP's stronger left hand). Boxing history has good examples with the left handed greats: -Manny getting slept by a JMM right hand . -Moore got put to sleep by a big Georges straight right. -Sweet pea got dropped by a Roger May right hand. -Calzaghe got dropped by a B Hop, Mitchell and Roys right hand. Regarding Loma, he better take a page of sweet pea's D. Pernell suffered a lot of KD early in his career, Roger May but also versus Williams and Layne, he ended as one of the most uncatchable fighter of all time. Loma better fix some stuff cuz right now he's not really passing the Mickey test TBH. This is an excellent post but you probably won't get a lot responses because you're being somewhat critical of Lomachenko. However you're absolutely right. Lomachenko has to fix this but I'm not sure how he can do it. The reason I say that is because it's hard to change when he has the kind of success he's been having. Everything comes easy to him. I don't like that he's saying he was too relaxed. Yes he was but he always does that when he thinks he's in control of a fight. All it takes is for someone to land that perfect punch. I guarantee Mikey Garcia can land that punch and it will be a lot harder.

Mate, it's major flaw of the stance. And it's basics, yet it happened with Loma and even Pac..