What are Mikey Garcias advantages against Loma?

Loma is playing with dynamite in this fight, and if you think Loma will be doing all the same things and as free with his hands like he has with all the other fighters he has fought, you are sorely mistaken. That along with Mikey's jab, distance control, and timing and you have a more than normal hesitant Loma. What does this equal to? A pace which Mikey likes to fight at. Measuring up attributes to judge this fight is a silly way to look at it. We saw a combination of size and ability in Linares cause Loma a lot of problems, Mikey is a level up from that, and at 135 and below he is a true knockout artist, with extremely good mechanics and fundamentals. Loma is a great defensive fighter in the pocket, but he stays in the pocket and that means he gets hit, and we saw yesterday he can be hurt too, and just to emphasis, he is significantly the smaller man. I won't make my final prediction just yet, but this fight is Loma's Everest. I do see him as competitive but also see him falling short with shots and struggling to make an impression. But I'll tell you what; it will be a lot of fun watching him attempt it. Not that I'm holding my breath, I don't see Arum letting it happen.

Garcia fans are just insecure. They will bring up Garcia after every Loma win.

Y’all are missing a big one here oh yea TECHNIQUE

well when you dismiss all the fighter attributes by going down a rabbit hole you are basically insinuate that he sucks. "well what was this elite fighter he did it too" psssh I dont play that game cause theirs no end in sight. Both are great fighters I just think Mikey Garcia wins cause the reason I stated, Ill break it down more thoroughly for you though (feel free to counter this with Lomachenko traits and how it nullifies mikey) Mikey is a master at distance and keeping range (which nullify angles, one of lomachenko greatest weapons.) Mikey is a master at timing (which nullifies speed, one of lomachenko core weapons). Mikey is a master counterpuncher (which nullifies A fighter tenacity, one of lomachenko trademark trait in the ring) Mikey is the bigger puncher (which nullifies Volume, one of lomachenko weapons in the ring) Mikey is a master at controlling pace (which nullifies volum and intensity, one of lomachenkos trait inside that ring) Mikey is the proven fighter with bigger punchers (which nullifies lomachenko likihood to hurt Mikey) Mikey is more experience as a pro (Which gives mikey the advantages of knowing what he can and cant do and when and where he can do it, when to turn up in a round and when not to etc etc) Attributes werent dismissed. And you took it as an insinuation that he sucks. Your detailed response is more of what Im looking for, not some garbage ass troll responses. None of what you said is false and is an accurate assesment. However, all of Mikeys work is mostly against guys who are coming straight forward and of lesser quality. I think when presented with an equal talent like Loma, Mikey will suffer some and questions will be raised. Can he fight at a high pace if need be? How does he adjust when its not his pace? Does he have the stamina to fight at a high pace for 12? Either way, its a great matchup that is even better than Spence Crawford.

and here comes the hate. Why is it hate, broner is the only fighter in recent history I can think of that moved against mikey, when he moved mikey missed, he hit him all day long when he stayed still

mikey is the guy who only fights slow stationary fighters. forgot that one He beat this slow plodder, guess who hasn't? https://inbetweenrounds.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/garcia_salido_130119_004a.jpg

50/50 Fight! I think Mikey Size and Power is his advantage and while Loma yes is Slick and a excellent boxer he is still human he can be hit and hurt Mikey is very discipline with excellent timing so yes I think Mikey can catch up just like Linares caught him. Both Excellent fighters instead of playing this internet guessing game I would rather see the fight get made and lets find out. I personally think 135 is pushing his limit in fact it might be past his Limit and you kinda seen at bit vs Linares You do know that he got caught well from a guy that weighted over 150 pounds today. I am hoping the fight happens. Anything could happen including a loma KO of Garcia.

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Timimg. Timing always defelects speed. Also superior punching power, defensive skills that will offset loma's gameplan, counter punching. Again timing.

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It's more a question of experience. Lomachenko got too passive after the knockdown and took him 2-3 rounds to get back to his normal self. Even so, he wasn't as dominant as before. If he gets hit by Garcia, who have more power than Linares, there's a chance he gets too respectful of his power and it wouldn't look good for him. And there's somewhat of a flaw in his game right now, as he is too willing to get closer than needed to throw his combos. It was a problem for him in this fight and will just get worse against bigger guys

Mickey's jab and able to keep distance and counter punch will be key. Loma will land a flurry and Mickey will catch him with a 1 2 as Loma walks into it won't see it coming. Too big too strong for Loma plus experience and fundamentals. Will also play into this fight for Garcia

Honestly the left to the body will be key on the shift. If you notice, Loma (like any south paw favors moving to the right) so a half step back and a quick 3-4 to the body in the 1st 4rds will be key. Mikey will lose the opening rds though and have to show he can take Lomas deceiving punches. After that the 3 low and the 2 high will be significant. I agree. I think he will take those punches well because I dont see Loma as all that powerful. Hes an accumulation guy. But Garcia will lose those early points. His left hook will be vital in the long run.

50/50 Fight! I think Mikey Size and Power is his advantage and while Loma yes is Slick and a excellent boxer he is still human he can be hit and hurt Mikey is very discipline with excellent timing so yes I think Mikey can catch up just like Linares caught him. Both Excellent fighters instead of playing this internet guessing game I would rather see the fight get made and lets find out. I personally think 135 is pushing his limit in fact it might be past his Limit and you kinda seen at bit vs Linares

:beerchug: I can dig that. It will be interesting to see how Mikey does with the shifting and angles though. Feints will be key. Honestly the left to the body will be key on the shift. If you notice, Loma (like any south paw favors moving to the right) so a half step back and a quick 3-4 to the body in the 1st 4rds will be key. Mikey will lose the opening rds though and have to show he can take Lomas deceiving punches. After that the 3 low and the 2 high will be significant.

Oh I broke it down nice for him and now he attacking the resume lmfao like we cant destroy loma resume either lmfao. Its funny cause these threads are never meant for real boxing talk its just to say YOUR WRONG CAUSE X FIGHTER SUCK AND FUCK YOU! lmfao. Who here said Mikey sucks? Nobody. People are talking about what can potentially happen based on their skill and prior experience. Both guys are highly skilled. One has faced better competition. Not sure why you are trying to make it something else.

Great description of Garcia. The guy is kinda vanilla, not particularly violent or flashy, not "Mexican enough" to get that crowd excited, not dramatic enough to have people following his twitter. But, the guy is soooo fundamentally sound. He dictates the fight, he measures everything, when he gets wild, it's a calculated risk based on openings he's already explored. People seem to think he's a bland variation on a Mexican style fighter. What he is, is representative of a new era of fighters (Loma included) who integrate the best aspects of many styles. yes mikey is technically sound but i think thats to his disadvantage against loma. mikey doenst have the best reflexes and once loma works out the distance and where the punches are coming from i think he would be able to sit there in front of him and light mikey up. linares was throwing a lot of out there punches which didnt hit the target but what htey did is they caught lomas attention and made him think. i dont think garcia does that kind of stuff and would be made to paid against the more athletic fighter

I know, I wreck a lot of threads and they never handle it well so I don't expect you to do anything other than pretended you're laughing. You're basing your argument on, "See, size and speed don't work!" :rofl: So you have nothing to add like everyone else. Thanks.

it not hate. i like garcia. garcia vs loma seems like an easy loma win for me. garcia hasn't fought anyone like linares, anyone like rigo, anyone like walters, anyone like russell. maybe its a coincidence but hte slickest guy he fought was adrien broner who just stands there with his gloves up. I like both guys too. I just think head to head, based on quality of opposition and attributes for each fighter, I lean towards a Loma win. Dudes act like you have to hate a guy because you dont pick him to win.

Lol shot down. You brought nothing to the table but showed exactly what got beat tonight. Try again. I know, I wreck a lot of threads and they never handle it well so I don't expect you to do anything other than pretended you're laughing. You're basing your argument on, "See, size and speed don't work!" :rofl: