Why is it that suddenly US boxing media is covering UK fights alot more?

I knew American boxing had a massive issue when Gary Russell supposedly got paid $1 million for fighting Hyland. British boxing has a good platform at the minute and with British, European, and commonwealth titles you can create good match ups as there is lots of tv dates. Not necessarily always great fighters but that’s not always what good sport is about. Obviously it’s great when boxers get paid well but it should be in fights that are a bit perilous. Aside from Broner I’m not staying up to watch any Americans fight. Why watch Spence give someone a shoeing, or pound 4 pound king Crawford fighting the weakest champion? It’s all a bit comfortable for stars over there it seems. The power of the zero has more or less been eradicated here now which is nice. But...America are still the top dogs and likely always will be simply because we’ve yet to have a foreign fighter headline a show in his own right as far as I can remember? Maybe Tyson a few times? But to really adopt one? We’d need a new Golovkin to do that. I like the Warren at least tries stuff with Tete.

Because boxing is pretty dead in the US compared to UK

I don’t get this US is dying thing, boxing in America is still the place to be. If you can generate your following there then you know you have made it. The bigger pay is there but you need to break that market first doe. The UK market is definitely getting bigger doe IDK relative popularity is a thing. Chris Eubanks get 2 million + USD and a cut of PPVs, when even Deontay Wilder isn't doing that. If you can make it its the place to be, that's a huge IF and the barometer is way higher to be noticed on a relatively large scale here than in the UK, and involves a lot more politicking if you ask me. Ryan Garcia would get whooped by Devin Haney probably and he's not getting any mainstream attention like Garcia. Also people here are getting reminded of some NFL player suing because he has CTE, and other brain injuries so on a grassroots level I don't exactly see the boxing following growing. I don't know if the UK has similar cases with Rugby or Soccer or not, but it's a hot button issue in the USA since it is the sport that by far draws the biggest crowds in the USA.

Maybe U.S should think twice about the way they operate with boxing. High priced tickets/ppv = lower viewership. End of the day, you might earn a bunch of cash but that is short term idea and quite stupid. All it does is discourage people from watching boxing. In U.K, it is for the masses. The ecosystem has been created to be sustainable, not only for this generation of fighters but the next few too. End of the day, it is just the mentality of the countries. U.S is too capitalistic and that might be the death of any low popularity good fights. It is good that people in charge in U.K are more competent and are slowly building a new mecca for boxing. Showtime is pretty much done with it, except true super fights. HBO use it more in order to offset the costs(In addition to other cut backs in their boxing budget already). PBC has fights all over cable TV, and ESPN runs Golden Boy and Top Rank fights. The wheels have been in motion for several years already in order to bring more boxing to the masses and less dependence on the PPV model.

I don’t get this US is dying thing, boxing in America is still the place to be. If you can generate your following there then you know you have made it. The bigger pay is there but you need to break that market first doe. The UK market is definitely getting bigger doe

I don't think Dana & Eddie are moving deeper into boxing cuz of all the money there. They are moving deeper into boxing cuz of all the potential money there cuz boxing currently has no f#cking clue what its doing 99% of the time. Its among the most poorly ran professional sports out there today. And anyone finding a solid niche or angle can write their own checks here at worst & at best could completely re-structure the sport to a more logically based operation that could greatly enhance the popularity of the sport. Yep, EP and I see it the same. US boxing needs a major overhaul, maybe one of these guys or the combination of them can provide that.

I remember reading on here a few years back people absolutely slating the UK boxing scene, no fighters/titles etc. It was never that weak. Now we seem to have strength in numbers but most importantly we've got a figurehead like AJ who if nothing else, is charming and a good orator. That pricks the ears of the general public and suddenly you've got outside interest coming into the sport and then looking around from there at who else they can support. We've done some good things to highlight the sport, don't underestimate the Olympics, a lot of the fighters that have turned pro from there have become mild household names and they're easier to push onto the general public than some banger covered in tats. Love him or loathe him but Eddie Hearn has pushed out the sport to the masses

I'm not claiming it's the level of the Tyson/Holyfield days. But it's far from dying. The average age of a boxing fan is younger than the average age of an MMA fan. If boxing was dying in America you wouldn't see people like Dana White & Eddie Hearn trying to break into the market. Boxing still dominates gates & PPV's for big fights & it's not even close Dying may have been over-dramatic, but I think the reason you have guys like White and Hearn trying to break in is because they see an open window. There are really no stars in US boxing, interest is at a low, so they see an opportunity to take advantage of that and perhaps become the relevant sources of American boxing. We will see what the continuing changes in how people take in live sports and how the boxing world continues to adapt affects things as well, with streaming platforms and things of that sort.

What are you using, besides your feelings, to gauge the casual fans interest? Well he mentioned it's never had worse star power...which is true. There has always been at least one household name. Maybe Manny Pacquiao or FMJ is that name now, but they're either done or just about done. Let's hope that Canelo/GGG/Loma/AJ/Wilder crossover and become that name.

So you're using anecdotal evidence. Well my experience is different. We talk regularly about boxing at my barbershop. We get together to watch the fights at the shops. There are 3 gyms within 5 miles of me. There's a local show here at least once a month and they're always packed. Even the amateur shows are packed. So if we're basing it on anecdotal evidence i would have to say boxing is doing pretty good Cool, I'm glad to hear there are still some hardcore's out there that talk boxing in real life. If that's what you think based off of your experience, I'm not gonna tell you that you are wrong. With that being said, from my own experience and in places like this site, I'm comfortable in my opinion that boxing is a niche sport that has maybe 1 fighter (Canelo) that still has big appeal to casuals and can draw for PPV's against most any opponents. But certainly there was more attention paid to boxing in 70s, 80s and 90s, I don't think that can be argued. Even the 2000s with guys like ODLH, RJJ, Mayweather, Pacquiao and the tail end of guys like Tyson and Holyfield drew a much bigger response among general sports fans that this era of boxing does not in the US.

Boxing in Murica is dead.

What are you using, besides your feelings, to gauge the casual fans interest? I don't know a single person that could name 3 active boxers right now, it wasn't that way 10 or even 5 years ago. It's not like it takes rocket science to see that boxing's popularity is at an all time low in the US. I'm sure you know this, I don't see what the shame is in acknowledging it

Because of Billy Joe Saunders

Maybe U.S should think twice about the way they operate with boxing. High priced tickets/ppv = lower viewership. End of the day, you might earn a bunch of cash but that is short term idea and quite stupid. All it does is discourage people from watching boxing. In U.K, it is for the masses. The ecosystem has been created to be sustainable, not only for this generation of fighters but the next few too. End of the day, it is just the mentality of the countries. U.S is too capitalistic and that might be the death of any low popularity good fights. It is good that people in charge in U.K are more competent and are slowly building a new mecca for boxing. This is a very good point and something I highlighted way back in 2015 with may/pac. How many big boxing events in the US are even frequented by actual boxing fans? The ecosystem created around those 2 for 5 years pushed out actual fans and delivered tickets into the hands of casinos, namely the MGM, who then comp out those tickets to their highest rollers, thus encouraging them to gamble more (like populating those casinos with prostitutes). Its a small, quick buck ecosystem which is failing time and time again. PPV numbers in the US are becoming abysmal, there is no mainstream cross over and thus coverage of the sport is suffering. The lack of boxing on terrestrial tv is a problem in the UK too but subscription services and PPV are not out of the reach of the true fan, so it is not as big of a problem. PLUS, with the way managerial and promotion systems work, we are getting top fights and top fighters more often than say, PBC in the States. It is just not sustainable and if the massive drop off in coverage continues, the European market is wide open (let's not forget the presence of Germany and Eastern Europe in the higher divisions).

It will never die here, it will survive as a niche sport, but I think it is at an all time low as far as star power fighters in the US. As far as casual interest in the sport, I can't remember it ever being as low as it is now Must suck seeing NBA, NFL, NHL Youtube channels blowing these Boxing YT channels away, I mean what is wrong with Americans? I'd go far as saying that the UFC is received more better than Boxing is in the US, money isn't everything. Casuals care less about the sport of boxing in the US because I think it has to do with poor promotion/advertisement of the fights and then we have fighters to blame for fighting boring and avoiding hard fights. Boxing shouldn't have to be a sport reliant on supporting an individual it should be a sport built just like the UFC which is solely focused on entertainment value which boxing far too often completely ignores.

YouTube channels are not really media Khan v Greco and last night card wasn't picked up by us tv iirc

How long has boxing been dying in the US? 100 years? It will never die here, it will survive as a niche sport, but I think it is at an all time low as far as star power fighters in the US. As far as casual interest in the sport, I can't remember it ever being as low as it is now

Maybe U.S should think twice about the way they operate with boxing. High priced tickets/ppv = lower viewership. End of the day, you might earn a bunch of cash but that is short term idea and quite stupid. All it does is discourage people from watching boxing. In U.K, it is for the masses. The ecosystem has been created to be sustainable, not only for this generation of fighters but the next few too. End of the day, it is just the mentality of the countries. U.S is too capitalistic and that might be the death of any low popularity good fights. It is good that people in charge in U.K are more competent and are slowly building a new mecca for boxing.

Because boxing is dying in the US, nobody cares anymore and there are hardly any stars left that get casual fans interested. The UK is the capital of the boxing world, for now

As I said Uk is the a side of boxing now Best boxers Best fans Best promoters Best organisers America is finished in boxing