Would wilder avoid bellew like he did whyte ?

Wilder does VADA testing as mandated by the WBC so I very much doubt it. And you can criticize Wilder for his technical ability but sometimes a champion can get by on his self belief and heart. Along with a murderous punch. He proved a lot in coming back to win the Luis Ortiz fight. Ortiz fight has been welders major talking point out of his 40 fights. It send a wrong signal.

I favor Wilder fighting Juicin' J. If Hearn won't give us that then I don't see why his fighter Whyte should be rewarded with a title shot. Not unless he truly earns it by beating Luis Ortiz first. I see this as record padding.

Wilder does VADA testing as mandated by the WBC so I very much doubt it. And you can criticize Wilder for his technical ability but sometimes a champion can get by on his self belief and heart. Along with a murderous punch. He proved a lot in coming back to win the Luis Ortiz fight. And Lance Armstrong bought WADA a drug testing machine, going through multiple tests over decades without failing (publicly, anyway)... And with the scandal around TUE, some of which involves British sports stars, even "clean" isn't clean in professional sports. It's a bit of an amateurish statement to categorically state anyone in sports is a truly clean athlete at this point, which is incredibly sad! Luis Ortiz is decent, the best on Wilder's record, but old. Sure, you could say the same of Wlad on AJ's, but we both know which one is head and shoulder above the other. Like I say though, glad the US vs UK rivalry has stoked something in the American imagination, as it was desperately needed.

That status is probably solely down to Wilder being 40 fights in, and still largely being a complete enigma and unknown. Joshua has shown he can win fights two ways, boxing and fighting, whereas Wilder has shown very little technical boxing ability. As much as I would love a tear up, I seriously worry Wilder vs AJ would be another jab-eating, risk averse 12 rounds ala Parker. Just on the whole Juicing jibes as well. Like I say, I don't have a clue. It is possible to be as fit and muscled as AJ without it, depending on genetics and dedication. However, surely, on the basis of the history of US and UK sports, if anybody was more likely to be a drugs cheat, it would be Wilder...? Wilder does VADA testing as mandated by the WBC so I very much doubt it. And you can criticize Wilder for his technical ability but sometimes a champion can get by on his self belief and heart. Along with a murderous punch. He proved a lot in coming back to win the Luis Ortiz fight.

Dude is happy to fight guys like Washington to pad his record Why won’t he fight whyte or bellew for 5m-6m dollars if he is a so called champion ? Why are you Brits so afraid of a Wilder/Joshua fight? Scared the big bad American will check that chin and take those belts away?

I'm the first to admit that Wilder has flaws. Doesn't change the fact that he is the biggest threat to Juicin' J. That status is probably solely down to Wilder being 40 fights in, and still largely being a complete enigma and unknown. Joshua has shown he can win fights two ways, boxing and fighting, whereas Wilder has shown very little technical boxing ability. As much as I would love a tear up, I seriously worry Wilder vs AJ would be another jab-eating, risk averse 12 rounds ala Parker. Just on the whole Juicing jibes as well. Like I say, I don't have a clue. It is possible to be as fit and muscled as AJ without it, depending on genetics and dedication. However, surely, on the basis of the history of US and UK sports, if anybody was more likely to be a drugs cheat, it would be Wilder...?

I've read this forum for a very long time, so I know exactly how hypocritical all you Yanks are about Wilder, and how very recent this whole fetish over him began. That's precisely what has prompted me to register and post for once! A couple of years ago, the very same posters now suckling at the Wilder teet, were saying that he lacked fundamentals, had fought nobody, and ultimately was a bum. Fast forward to the very well planned rise of AJ, and I think there's a bit of jealousy and resentment as British Heavyweight boxing dominates the landscape. Don't read this as me holding a negative view of you, or your support for Wilder, I love it! It is necessary for US boxing to have finally woken up from what seems like the longest self induced coma in sporting history. No funding at amateur level, funnelling of funds away from boxing gyms that previously offered sanctuary for kids on the wrong side of the law and nothing to lose (the perfect conditions for a fighter), and the consequential lack of interest compared with sports like Basketball, American Football, Baseball etc, has lead us to this point. Across the pond here, it could not be more different, with more people willing and able to PPV, and an Olympic/amateur conveyor belt delivering quality time and time again. Just think, as Joshua peaks and declines, Daniel Dubois is coming through, and he will be a monster. However, there is one thing which should be shutdown immediately. No, not AJ being a juicer. More rigorous drug testing in the sport is necessary, and the only answer to that question. Until it's answered scientifically, only someone with cash to burn should be casting aspersions publicly, so let's table that. The item on the current agenda which needs to be shelved, is the whole idea of "ducking". We have all watched on, as Wilder has padded his record in a Birmingham car park (parking lot), against bums and journeymen that most novices would dispatch in a couple of rounds. Consecutively. He has fought almost double the amount of fights Anthony Joshua has, and has shown no previous interest or ambition in unifying the division. He has had the time, and with the change of landscape that has allowed AJ to collect 3 of the belts, he had the opportunity. He has not even shown any intention of fighting better fighters, until now. For anyone watching Wilder's career, it is as if he has been raised as cattle. Raised so his 0 can go at the right moment, for the right number of zeroes on a cheque. Now is that moment. Until you examine the behaviour of his belt's sanctioning body recently, do you understand how correct that assertion is. For all the claims of "ducking", while AJ actually holds bigger and bigger fights leading up to the megafight, Wilder will not be challenged. Whyte is another good British heavyweight, capable of causing Wilder problems, but he will not be given a mandatory shot against Wilder. You have to feel sorry for a guy ranked second in a category, who is overlooked for the mandatory status for a number 3, a number 3 who was a lot less competitive against AJ. The WBC want to ensure that, in the event Joshua and Wilder do not agree terms this time, there will still be a match up between the two. Whyte would complicate that equation. It's an exciting time to follow the heavyweight division, and the US vs UK dynamic is a delicious ingredient. I suspect the jealousy and resentment will be replaced by appreciation, if what I suspect will happen, actually happens. AJ round 8 KO. I'm the first to admit that Wilder has flaws. Doesn't change the fact that he is the biggest threat to Juicin' J.

Wilder will avoid anybody who can punch and is not a fossil.

I've read this forum for a very long time, so I know exactly how hypocritical all you Yanks are about Wilder, and how very recent this whole fetish over him began. That's precisely what has prompted me to register and post for once! A couple of years ago, the very same posters now suckling at the Wilder teet, were saying that he lacked fundamentals, had fought nobody, and ultimately was a bum. Fast forward to the very well planned rise of AJ, and I think there's a bit of jealousy and resentment as British Heavyweight boxing dominates the landscape. Don't read this as me holding a negative view of you, or your support for Wilder, I love it! It is necessary for US boxing to have finally woken up from what seems like the longest self induced coma in sporting history. No funding at amateur level, funnelling of funds away from boxing gyms that previously offered sanctuary for kids on the wrong side of the law and nothing to lose (the perfect conditions for a fighter), and the consequential lack of interest compared with sports like Basketball, American Football, Baseball etc, has lead us to this point. Across the pond here, it could not be more different, with more people willing and able to PPV, and an Olympic/amateur conveyor belt delivering quality time and time again. Just think, as Joshua peaks and declines, Daniel Dubois is coming through, and he will be a monster. However, there is one thing which should be shutdown immediately. No, not AJ being a juicer. More rigorous drug testing in the sport is necessary, and the only answer to that question. Until it's answered scientifically, only someone with cash to burn should be casting aspersions publicly, so let's table that. The item on the current agenda which needs to be shelved, is the whole idea of "ducking". We have all watched on, as Wilder has padded his record in a Birmingham car park (parking lot), against bums and journeymen that most novices would dispatch in a couple of rounds. Consecutively. He has fought almost double the amount of fights Anthony Joshua has, and has shown no previous interest or ambition in unifying the division. He has had the time, and with the change of landscape that has allowed AJ to collect 3 of the belts, he had the opportunity. He has not even shown any intention of fighting better fighters, until now. For anyone watching Wilder's career, it is as if he has been raised as cattle. Raised so his 0 can go at the right moment, for the right number of zeroes on a cheque. Now is that moment. Until you examine the behaviour of his belt's sanctioning body recently, do you understand how correct that assertion is. For all the claims of "ducking", while AJ actually holds bigger and bigger fights leading up to the megafight, Wilder will not be challenged. Whyte is another good British heavyweight, capable of causing Wilder problems, but he will not be given a mandatory shot against Wilder. You have to feel sorry for a guy ranked second in a category, who is overlooked for the mandatory status for a number 3, a number 3 who was a lot less competitive against AJ. The WBC want to ensure that, in the event Joshua and Wilder do not agree terms this time, there will still be a match up between the two. Whyte would complicate that equation. It's an exciting time to follow the heavyweight division, and the US vs UK dynamic is a delicious ingredient. I suspect the jealousy and resentment will be replaced by appreciation, if what I suspect will happen, actually happens. AJ round 8 KO.

why do you guys favor wilder fighting banana breazeale? I still don't understand the logic behind that. I want to see Wilder fight AJ, Parker or Fury.

He says he's ready. It's Whyte that's dragging his feet. :dunno: In that case let them make that fight.

Ortiz is a retired pensioner, how is he gonna fight? He says he's ready. It's Whyte that's dragging his feet. :dunno:

Is Bellend AJ's new bodyguard?

As soon as Whyte beats Luis Ortiz he can get it. Ortiz is a retired pensioner, how is he gonna fight?

Bellew is the same guy that had his head pop up like a pez dispenser by Stevenson. I'm sure Wilder would take his head clean off like a finishing move on Mortal Kombat.

why do you guys favor wilder fighting banana breazeale? I still don't understand the logic behind that. I favor Wilder fighting Juicin' J. If Hearn won't give us that then I don't see why his fighter Whyte should be rewarded with a title shot. Not unless he truly earns it by beating Luis Ortiz first.

As soon as Whyte beats Luis Ortiz he can get it. why do you guys favor wilder fighting banana breazeale? I still don't understand the logic behind that.

Why is Whyte still avoiding Ortiz? I think he is angry cos wilder avoided him for a banana bum.

Bellew wants to fight WARd a (retired) LIGHT heavyweight, He definitley doesnt want any part of Wilder. GTFO WHY DONT YOU WANT JOSHUA TO BE THE FIRST TO BEAT WILDER? WHY DONT YOU WANT WILDER TO FIGHT JOSHUA?:boxing::burnout:

I think Wilder is more afraid of Whyte than Bellew. As soon as Whyte beats Luis Ortiz he can get it.