Where do you have Rio Ferdinand in your ATG list?

1. New TBE 2. TBE 3. Rio

When you got that 0 you must be great

You can't claim to be undefeated if you've never even competed. The majority of mankind would be considered undefeated by that logic, and just like Rio they did NOT get their boxing license so can't consider themselves boxers. Does Rio have an amateur record? nope. Pro record? nope. A street fight even? nope. I heard they didnt grant him a licence to ensure the safety of other boxers

#2. The Charlie Z record is not going to be broken.

You can't claim to be undefeated if you've never even competed. The majority of mankind would be considered undefeated by that logic, and just like Rio they did NOT get their boxing license so can't consider themselves boxers. Does Rio have an amateur record? nope. Pro record? nope. A street fight even? nope.

He was a good defender!

Top 10 probably. I don't think he can rank ahead of Joe Mesi or Sven Ottke though. He's far better than the likes of Armstrong, Hopkins, Arguello, Lomachenko, Marquez etc; all those guys lost early and this guy went a whole career without losing. The most important thing in the sport.

2nd best British cruiserweight of all time maybe, Haye being number 1, then it's between Rio and Johnny Nelson for 2nd spot