Comments Thread For: Joshua's Promoter Plans To Make a "New" Offer To Wilder

This offer couldn’t be too different from the original or Hearn would be shouting it from the rooftops.

Joshua has made more in two fights then Wilder can in over 6 years time even if he retired so what gravy train are you talking about that needs to keep rolling ? :burnout: The fact is your an imbecile no matter who you are a fan of bc you're just an average Wilder band wagon rider on here which means you're not a real boxing fan you're just a detractor of another fighter , big difference ! As far as who's stalling the fight ? Well , team Wilder already did the 5 steps to do that , the biggest one was cancelled meetings ! You idiots became accountants all of a sudden but half of you cant even read on a 10th grade level :bottle: Is Aj more shook or are you a more of a dumb a*s imbecile?? :Thinkingo

Then the fight won't happen because Team Wilder would be damn fools to take less than a $100 Million purse split; Which means both fighters would get $50 mil each. After all, it was AJ who asked for $50 Million and they called his bluff and granted it to him. So the moral of the story is to be careful for what you ask for because you just might receive it.

Then the fight won't happen because Team Wilder would be damn fools to take less than a $100 Million purse split; Which means both fighters would get $50 mil each.

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I've got a hunch that this will be the final deal somehow, will probably be a 60-40 split to Joshua as is common sense. I'll throw my arms up in the air if he starts dicking around with flat fee offers again. There is no chance this fight goes 60/40. The best offer wilder will get based on experience is 65/35 or no fight. I am so confident about this. Giving wilder 35% is like a career breakthrough and a retirement payday.

Ummm they wanted Hearn to agree to the monetary terms his fighter said he would agree to for fight to happen before sitting down and going over the rest of the fight..... that’s usually how deals are done gloves, ring, site etc are later discussed once money terms are agreed upon all Hearn kept saying is he interested. If he was to see where money coming from who investors are etc why not change they tune to wanting 100mil for fight to take place anyone with a brain understood what finkel and co wanted done before sitting down to hash out rest "Ummm they wanted Hearn to agree to the monetary terms.." He basically DID agree, as in. "Ok, 50M, we are interested, what's the deal?" And then they clammed up. And worse, refused to meet. Seriously, it's big business. You don't do it through social media, and if you do decide to conduct yourself via social media, at least back it up with substance in a meeting, or with paperwork. This is obvious.

Wilder is going to get beat by AJ then all his fans will be like well wilder was never that good anyways lol

Ummm they wanted Hearn to agree to the monetary terms his fighter said he would agree to for fight to happen before sitting down and going over the rest of the fight..... that’s usually how deals are done gloves, ring, site etc are later discussed once money terms are agreed upon all Hearn kept saying is he interested. If he was to see where money coming from who investors are etc why not change they tune to wanting 100mil for fight to take place anyone with a brain understood what finkel and co wanted done before sitting down to hash out rest Hearn had no objection to the money part, and HE DID ask to sit down and go over the other conditions, and Wilder's team refused to meet, or even send some details. You do know this though right?

He's so obvious it's ridiculous. He's wanted Joshua - Miller from the very start and that's never changed. We will see if he is really about it within the next two weeks

What is ‘shook’? You mean ‘enthusiastic’? Nah, scared...like shaking in fear.

A much better question is ....... WHO IS MORE STUPID , WILDERS FANBASE OR WILDER HIMSELF ?:doh: You act like I'm a big D.Wilder fan....fact is I respect D.Wilder & I know Aj/hearn are stalling to fight D.Wilder so they can keep riding that gravy train while it lasts. :yeah:

There was absolutely nothing wrong with Wilders eye in the first rnd ....from a SINGLE jab ! lol Wilder was continuously getting hit with over hand rights and his eye started to swell AFTER rnd one , midway through the second rnd and you could see the difference when he was sitting on his stool . Duhaupas outlanded Wilder in rnd one ,walking him down taking the harder punches . In round 2 it was several right hands causing Wilders eye to swell even though Duhaupas lost the rnd . The eye got worse after a Duhaupas right hand in the 4th rnd , you can literally see it closing..he WON that rnd but it was a great rnd according to the commentary ? lol O.K I'll stop there . Wilder was hit by far the most in this fight than any other , no ones disputing who won but clearly Wilder loses more than one round . Ortiz was his toughest challenge but when you have ONE eye half way through the fight it MAKES it a more dangerous fight . " if you’ve watched the fight you’d know this " :cool2: Eloquently stated

If it’s true that wilders team is no bluff they should accept this new offer if not no fight for wilder

What? Shortchange? This is probably a 200 million dollar fight right now.. In my opinion, a 4 to 1 split in favor of Joshua would "shortchange" Wilder no matter what the size of the pot would be. He can do better than a 25% share, especially if Wilder's side is underwriting the fight. Show me the money! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFrag8ll85w

No excuses for the former, the latter are a disgrace and one of the aspects of this forum I don't like. Yes an oral contract can be enforceable by law: https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/is-a-verbal-agreement-binding-in-nys-474366.html I don't know whether this is the true concern or as is more likely Hearn doesn't simply want to tie his hands in negotiation, either way it's not good practice to accept something if you're not sure of the commercial or legal implications. Because the quote was taken when he was being flippant in a youtube interview, as is his wont, not from a negotiation discussion with Wilder's team. He was making a point about the discrepancy in revenue projections between the two camps. It's as if you and I were out for a beer in NYC watching a Patriots Chargers game and I said I thought Travis Benjamin was going to score the winner in overtime and you said 'dude if he does that you can sleep with my wife'. and we laugh, and hey, whaddya know the game goes into overtime, the chargers qb throws a hail mary and.... Later that night I knock at your door with a toothbrush and an expectant look... $50m is a lot of money, but pro rata to AJ it's actually just under 2 fights income. Given he's 28 and HW's box career goes a little longer, this is not a vast sum set against future potential career earnings in the ring and the significant sums he brings in outside via commercial partners. Think Jordan in Basketball. An industry all by himself. That's where Joshua is heading. So if the 50m has anything within it that puts that wider project at risk, all of a sudden it's a LOT less enticing. And they should. If you watch Hearn's interviews he's been careful to show some respect to Haymon. Finkel is the one he's been guilty of disrespecting. So you need to think of the difference between the two 'offers'. Hearns was sent on the basis of a UK fight, with a proven business model and with an amount that NO SEASONED observer doubted could be generated by the fight itself. The offer was made privately. Wilder's team were free to study it, to ask any questions that arose from it. There was no pre condition or ultimatum other than the 10 day window before the Povetkin mandatory window closed. So according to Hearn, Wilder's team didn't even acknowledge the receipt of the offer, they simply leaked selected portions of it to local media along with a supposed 48 hour ultimatum which has subsequently appeared to be a falsehood. His position is that they could come back and ask any questions they liked on his offer and if they wanted a contract or proof of funds then 'no problem' within the day they'd have them. The second 'offer' was sent by email from Wilder, who never normally does negotiations. It was accompanied by a tweeted video. There was no info on where the fight was to be held etc it was purely focussed on the 50mn quote from AJ's interview and when Hearn sought clarification it was refused. Do you see the fundamental difference between the two? By shutting down all discussion, cancelling meetings, refusing clarification and saying you need to agree to this withhout knowing any other details, Wilder's team have given an offer which may initially sound enticing but which is actually impossible to accept. good points , , great discussion . We kinda have similar thoughts just a little different opinion which is what makes the world go around. Let’s see what hearn next “offer “ is and hopefully this fight gets done.

No excuses for the former, the latter are a disgrace and one of the aspects of this forum I don't like. Yes an oral contract can be enforceable by law: https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/is-a-verbal-agreement-binding-in-nys-474366.html I don't know whether this is the true concern or as is more likely Hearn doesn't simply want to tie his hands in negotiation, either way it's not good practice to accept something if you're not sure of the commercial or legal implications. Because the quote was taken when he was being flippant in a youtube interview, as is his wont, not from a negotiation discussion with Wilder's team. He was making a point about the discrepancy in revenue projections between the two camps. It's as if you and I were out for a beer in NYC watching a Patriots Chargers game and I said I thought Travis Benjamin was going to score the winner in overtime and you said 'dude if he does that you can sleep with my wife'. and we laugh, and hey, whaddya know the game goes into overtime, the chargers qb throws a hail mary and.... Later that night I knock at your door with a toothbrush and an expectant look... $50m is a lot of money, but pro rata to AJ it's actually just under 2 fights income. Given he's 28 and HW's box career goes a little longer, this is not a vast sum set against future potential career earnings in the ring and the significant sums he brings in outside via commercial partners. Think Jordan in Basketball. An industry all by himself. That's where Joshua is heading. So if the 50m has anything within it that puts that wider project at risk, all of a sudden it's a LOT less enticing. And they should. If you watch Hearn's interviews he's been careful to show some respect to Haymon. Finkel is the one he's been guilty of disrespecting. So you need to think of the difference between the two 'offers'. Hearns was sent on the basis of a UK fight, with a proven business model and with an amount that NO SEASONED observer doubted could be generated by the fight itself. The offer was made privately. Wilder's team were free to study it, to ask any questions that arose from it. There was no pre condition or ultimatum other than the 10 day window before the Povetkin mandatory window closed. So according to Hearn, Wilder's team didn't even acknowledge the receipt of the offer, they simply leaked selected portions of it to local media along with a supposed 48 hour ultimatum which has subsequently appeared to be a falsehood. His position is that they could come back and ask any questions they liked on his offer and if they wanted a contract or proof of funds then 'no problem' within the day they'd have them. The second 'offer' was sent by email from Wilder, who never normally does negotiations. It was accompanied by a tweeted video. There was no info on where the fight was to be held etc it was purely focussed on the 50mn quote from AJ's interview and when Hearn sought clarification it was refused. Do you see the fundamental difference between the two? By shutting down all discussion, cancelling meetings, refusing clarification and saying you need to agree to this withhout knowing any other details, Wilder's team have given an offer which may initially sound enticing but which is actually impossible to accept. A refreshing intellectual debate. I have to admit I do prefer the banter/ insults but it’s good to hear common sense.You see even sworn enemies can show respect. Not that it makes a difference but a ORAL contract should be replaced with the term VERBAL contract. The connotations with the word sit better in my Head ( this is solely for me) Kind regards Anthony

Sorry.. I admit.. that was totally out of character.. I guess arguing with a million biased A.J fans has made me unconsciously biased a bit.. I will pump my brakes and chill out. Sorry about that. I just want to see the fight. It’s all love bro

I just want to see the fight. That is all that really needs to be said across all these *****ing threads about money.couldn't give a **** just get it on.

The $50million was only posturing for the benefit of the gullible. The "offer" was not in writing, nor was proof of funds offered. As to your assertion that one group (Wilder's group) was offering $50 million plus a 50% of the revenues, that would really shortchange Wilder. If the revenue is $100 million then Wilder's side would only receive $25 million. That means they assume all the financial risk and give a 4 to 1 split to their opponent. I don't think so. What? Shortchange? This is probably a 200 million dollar fight right now..