HBO is desperate for a star, absolutely desperate, they don't even hide it anymore. Sulecki-Jacobs was a very close bout and they made it seem like DJ cruised to a wide clear UD.
Before that though they were going on and on and on about Jarrell Miller hyping him up as the next big thing, did anyone watch that fight? The way they were talking about him you'd think Miller was an ATG.
And don't even get me started on Compubox, it seems at this point it's just a tool to push an agenda. See the ggg-Canelo fight where they counted missed punches as power shots for ggg.
It's crazy how much they can influence a decision or the fans minds, do yourself a favor and mute the TV. Seriously. HBO boxing is on it's last legs, they know it and cannot afford ANYONE looking bad at this point.
Sky Sports had also been given a pep talk by Eddie Hearn. They talked about Jarrell Miller as though he was some stone cold killer and every punch he landed was devastating. They also disregarded any good work Johann Duhaupas got in. Phrases such as "classy operator", "intelligent boxer" were used, as well as the cliche "there are levels to this and Miller is just levels above Duhaupas..." In the end I had to laugh.
HBO is desperate for a star, absolutely desperate, they don't even hide it anymore. Sulecki-Jacobs was a very close bout and they made it seem like DJ cruised to a wide clear UD.
Before that though they were going on and on and on about Jarrell Miller hyping him up as the next big thing, did anyone watch that fight? The way they were talking about him you'd think Miller was an ATG.
And don't even get me started on Compubox, it seems at this point it's just a tool to push an agenda. See the ggg-Canelo fight where they counted missed punches as power shots for ggg.
It's crazy how much they can influence a decision or the fans minds, do yourself a favor and mute the TV. Seriously. HBO boxing is on it's last legs, they know it and cannot afford ANYONE looking bad at this point.
Agree 100%. I find this with all networks, not just HBO. ESPN and HBO are the worse, with Manuallo Runalo right behind them. I like Bernstein and Teddy but Al is constantly being talked over and Teddy is no more.
I've gotten to the point where I don't listen to the fight during the fight, only the post fight interviews. Then if I rewatch i'll listen to commentary.
HBO is desperate for a star, absolutely desperate, they don't even hide it anymore. Sulecki-Jacobs was a very close bout and they made it seem like DJ cruised to a wide clear UD.
Before that though they were going on and on and on about Jarrell Miller hyping him up as the next big thing, did anyone watch that fight? The way they were talking about him you'd think Miller was an ATG.
And don't even get me started on Compubox, it seems at this point it's just a tool to push an agenda. See the ggg-Canelo fight where they counted missed punches as power shots for ggg.
It's crazy how much they can influence a decision or the fans minds, do yourself a favor and mute the TV. Seriously. HBO boxing is on it's last legs, they know it and cannot afford ANYONE looking bad at this point.
I agree HBO is horrendous but after listening to Robert Guerrero on pbc right b4 Jacobs vs. Sulecki, it wasnt all that bad.
Sky are quite bad for that. I remember watching a Katie Taylor fight where she was constantly getting cracked hard in the face, i think it was the fight before last and they just never mentioned anything when it happened.
Nothing beats Jim Lampley's BANG BANG BANG in Pacquiao v Clottey. Those shots weren't landing anywhere but Clottey's gloves haha.
That was the all time low. He has to lay off the coke.
Sad to see.
HBO was once the top dog. Everything has been gradually falling apart, but the commentary has been terrible for a while now.
Lampley used to be the best play by play announcer in the game. Now everything he says and does is agenda driven or just pure bias.
Roy used to be entertaining, now he just comes off like the crazy uncle who tries to sound smart, but just says sh1t that doesn't make any sense. I never liked Max much, but even he's worse now and he was never good to begin with.
Two of the actual scorecards were pretty clear decisions, though.
So they made it seem like he cruised to a clear UD when he actually cruised to a clear UD.
Crazy, huh?
But let's whine about HBO because you have a weird bias against them.
He didn't cruise to anything.
I don't mind fighters facts here and there but they should keep their opinion to themselves. I don't when they are biased either, even if the call the blows they call them only one way.
Sky are quite bad for that. I remember watching a Katie Taylor fight where she was constantly getting cracked hard in the face, i think it was the fight before last and they just never mentioned anything when it happened.
Nothing beats Jim Lampley's BANG BANG BANG in Pacquiao v Clottey. Those shots weren't landing anywhere but Clottey's gloves haha.
one thing i hate about their commentary is that they will start talking about something between rounds and still be talking about it about a minute into the round when it starts, thus missing all the action. Showtime are definitely better in that regard.
Sky are a biased lot too here in the UK but they at least give a good blow by blow commentary through the fight consistently rather than just ramble about something other than the fight.
I don't mind fighters facts here and there but they should keep their opinion to themselves. I don't when they are biased either, even if the call the blows they call them only one way.
A split decision? Sulecki would had to have won 7 of the first 11 rounds. I thought your argument was that it was a close fight?
You had a problem with the HBO broadcast, the judges, and compubox. A clean trifecta sir.
It was a close fight due to the close rounds which I felt Sulecki edged, I gave him the first 7 of 9, after the 9th they slowed down. This fight was a war, far from a masterclass by DJ.
Compubox has been recorded crediting missed punches as power punches, and the commentators have been on record giving credit to punches that did not land. Neither are valid nor are judges for that manner. It's in HBO and everyone's best interest for Jacobs to win, you think they're going to help put themselves out of a job?
The HBO broadcast was not acknowledging Sulecki's clean work while just acknowledging DJ's for the most part, Lederman's scorecards were also a joke. The fight was not a clear UD, it should've been a SD or a MD, 2 judges had it 116-111, another 117-111. 115-112 was the only reasonable score.
A split decision? Sulecki would had to have won 7 of the first 11 rounds. I thought your argument was that it was a close fight?
You had a problem with the HBO broadcast, the judges, and compubox. A clean trifecta sir.
They're getting worse which is really a shame. Back in the day they were the"A" team. You felt like it was a real event when you heard Jim, Larry and Big George.
one thing i hate about their commentary is that they will start talking about something between rounds and still be talking about it about a minute into the round when it starts, thus missing all the action. Showtime are definitely better in that regard.
Sky are a biased lot too here in the UK but they at least give a good blow by blow commentary through the fight consistently rather than just ramble about something other than the fight.
NFL broadcasts still have only two men in the broadcast booth correct? Why do both HBO and Showtime need a third man for boxing? On both networks all three freelance and provide “color commentary” with the supposed blow by blow narrator doing no such thing.
Bias wasn’t much of an issue last night. Yes, Jacobs is the house fighter. But he outpaced his quality opponent to a clear decision and then threw on an exclamation point in the twelfth. The sky wasn’t falling, DJ wasn’t exposed, the sports books will install Jacobs as a favorite over Charlo. Relax.
I expect HBO boxing to completely cease to exist in the next 5 to 10 years, financially they're still surviving off the big money fights Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao were involved in but it doesn't seem like they have any plan or any funding to have a plan for their future. Showtime owns boxing now for the biggest part even Joshua is now on that side too. Such a shame that a network that carried boxing for so many years completely falls apart and almost ceases to exist in less than a 10 year span but when the networks have other more safe sources of money then they invest more in that. It is what it is.
It was a close fight in reality but not that close of a fight on the cards, if you know what I mean. Biased commentary or not Danny was doing just a little bit more in most of the rounds. Plus the knockdown in the 12th.
It was a fairly easy UD to score.
Jacobs is a damn good fighter but they were trying to turn him into superman when he was having trouble and getting hit a lot. He did not look nearly as good as he did when he lost a close fight to GGG. Jacobs clearly won but not as easily as they were saying. Jacobs had an average performance and they went way overboard praising his skills and obviously trying to make him their next big star.
Now all they do is inject their personal opinion and insist on their nonsense. Sometimes they don't even talk about the fight the is happening in front of them.
one thing i hate about their commentary is that they will start talking about something between rounds and still be talking about it about a minute into the round when it starts, thus missing all the action. Showtime are definitely better in that regard.
Sky are a biased lot too here in the UK but they at least give a good blow by blow commentary through the fight consistently rather than just ramble about something other than the fight.
Even Roy and Max are not tolerable anymore the others always have been biased but those two at least use to try
Absolutely. I miss Manny Stewart. They were afraid of screwing up when he was there.
The HBO broadcast was not acknowledging Sulecki's clean work while just acknowledging DJ's for the most part, Lederman's scorecards were also a joke. The fight was not a clear UD, it should've been a SD or a MD, 2 judges had it 116-111, another 117-111. 115-112 was the only reasonable score.
Miller looked underwhelming vs Duhapas but the commentating team was raving about him like he's a future star. They just signed DJ to a multi fight contract, you think they're going to admit how bad he looked or give his opponent a fair shake? Losing DJ would lose them millions. They're trying to make Brooklyn the staple of boxing, DJ is apart of that therefore ggg is apart of that, they've built these 2 guys up.
I watched the British broadcast I assume it was Sky and they were biased towards Danny but nothing like HBO has done in other fights.