160 might be the only division packing 7 elite fighters in GGG, CHarlo, Jacobs, Nelo, Derev, Andrade, BJS and should be fireworks BUT...
1. You have the bigger star at 160 Nelo suspended
2. You have the champ GGG fighting bums and waiting after a Nelo paycheck instead of fighting other elite 160 pounders.
3. Then you have the others elite 160 pounders Andrade, Charlo, BJS, Derev, Jacobs fighting bums too and begging for a GGG showdown instead of fighting each others.
160 isn't going nowhere at this point.
LOL C mon homie Cuellar wasn't even a 130 pounder, hadn't fought since 2016.
How the F was this guy even fighting for a vacant title??
That's worse than Vanes and yet they handled him a title lol
Davis is the most pampered, paper belt gifted fighter I ever witnessed.
If Davis is on par with a seasoned fighter like GGG , then why he and his promotor are openly ducking an ukranian fighter who has only 10 fights. I guess dude is ready.
And you are defending GGG's duck. The irony here.:lol1:
Why do you care about his personal life or his beef with anybody? Even I, as a huge fan of his, could care less about that stuff. Stick to boxing.
Facts are: Davis's championship achievements are on par with Golovkin.
Real belts won in the ring: two each. Same belts (IBF/WBA) and similar calibre opponents. Geale might even be worse than Pedraza and Cuellar.
Davis is 23, Golovkin is 36, with huge gap in experience. Davis is light years more skilled than Golovkin and more fun to watch as well. None of that stiff, robotic crap.
There you go.
LOL C mon homie Cuellar wasn't even a 130 pounder, hadn't fought since 2016.
How the F was this guy even fighting for a vacant title??
That's worse than Vanes and yet they handled him a title lol
Davis is the most pampered, paper belt gifted fighter I ever witnessed.
If Davis is on par with a seasoned fighter like GGG , then why he and his promotor are openly ducking an ukranian fighter who has only 10 fights. I guess dude is ready.
your solutions were
1. Go back to one belt
2. Require sanctioning bodies to mandate fights against other sanctioning body mandatory's
Both of those solutions are unrealistic. Boxing is never going back to one belt and you know this. Sanctioning bodies don't work that way and you also know that. You're proposing radical unrealistic solutions just to benefit GGG. You want to flip the boxing world upside down just for GGG.
the first one is unrealistic sure. don't see what is so unrealistic about the second one.
and again why do you bring everything back to golovkin. I would have written the same if Crawford had decided to keep his belts and would have to fight undeserving mandatories in rotation.
you are picking only selective points to reply to.
so one question: if it would be practical to get better mandatories for unified champions by having the mandatories fight against each other. would you be for or against it?
in the past a champion from one sanctioning body couldn't be the mandatory for another. lately kovalev became the mandatory for Stevenson (unfortunately didn't work out) and golovkin became mandatory for cotto and canelo.
so changes are possible, only incremental, but possible.
and again, don't care about golovkins situation, it's about a hypothetical future situation with a new dude unifying the belts. so please stop accusing me on relating everything back to defending golovkin.
Yeah, Gerv hasn't fought a C+ fighter yet, but already getting into some idiotic hood rat beef with Charlo, already a hall of famer doe...I'm a fan man.
Why do you care about his personal life or his beef with anybody? Even I, as a huge fan of his, could care less about that stuff. Stick to boxing.
Facts are: Davis's championship achievements are on par with Golovkin.
Real belts won in the ring: two each. Same belts (IBF/WBA) and similar calibre opponents. Geale might even be worse than Pedraza and Cuellar.
Davis is 23, Golovkin is 36, with huge gap in experience. Davis is light years more skilled than Golovkin and more fun to watch as well. None of that stiff, robotic crap.
There you go.
charlo: waiting for his wbc shot and fighting nobody relevant
derev: wating for his ibf shot and fighting nobody relevant
jacobs: waiting for his wba shot and fighting nobody relevant
saunders: has no one relevant chasing his wbo title and doenst seem in a hurry to fight anyone unless its ggg/canelo
if only these guys would continue trying to fight the best available while waiting for their shot. i wish we had a modern example of someone doing that...oh wait thats what ggg did when he fought top guys like lemiux and jacobs and saunders turned him down. different standards for different folks. just wait for your shot and dont take any risks and the fans are happy about this? low standards. love um
What was Vanes doing that made him so relevant? :rofl:
Some of these mandatory guys wanna be fighting each other jump the queue, Charlo could be waiting a damn long time for his shot. Golovkin kept on winning it could go
1. Martirosyan
2. Canelo
3. Saunders
4. Derevyanchenko
5. Jacobs
6. Charlo
Charlo is a long way off, Golovkin only just done his WBC mandatory
charlo: waiting for his wbc shot and fighting nobody relevant
derev: wating for his ibf shot and fighting nobody relevant
jacobs: waiting for his wba shot and fighting nobody relevant
saunders: has no one relevant chasing his wbo title and doenst seem in a hurry to fight anyone unless its ggg/canelo
if only these guys would continue trying to fight the best available while waiting for their shot. i wish we had a modern example of someone doing that...oh wait thats what ggg did when he fought top guys like lemiux and jacobs and saunders turned him down. different standards for different folks. just wait for your shot and dont take any risks and the fans are happy about this? low standards. love um
Just admit it, you like GGG alot. You are a fan of his. There is no shame in it, we all have boxers we prefer.
Canelo is his reason in terms of him chasing money but Canelo is not the reason for him not fighting ANY of his mandatories or showing interest in fighting Saunders in September.
There is no way to sugarcoat this in favour of GGG, it is what it is. He is holding the belts hostage while needing that Canelo payday, not much wrong with that if him and his fans could admit it.
the reason he is not fighting his mandatories is because they were not mandated.
Just admit it, you like GGG alot. You are a fan of his. There is no shame in it, we all have boxers we prefer.
Canelo is his reason in terms of him chasing money but Canelo is not the reason for him not fighting ANY of his mandatories or showing interest in fighting Saunders in September.
There is no way to sugarcoat this in favour of GGG, it is what it is. He is holding the belts hostage while needing that Canelo payday, not much wrong with that if him and his fans could admit it.
I'm a GGG guy yes but I'm not blaming him for that cinco de mayo debacle.
Common sense makes me think that way, not being a supporter.
I agree with you except on GGG not having reason to do the same, and that reason is named Canelo, and that Canelo guy messed up things.
Just admit it, you like GGG alot. You are a fan of his. There is no shame in it, we all have boxers we prefer.
Canelo is his reason in terms of him chasing money but Canelo is not the reason for him not fighting ANY of his mandatories or showing interest in fighting Saunders in September.
There is no way to sugarcoat this in favour of GGG, it is what it is. He is holding the belts hostage while needing that Canelo payday, not much wrong with that if him and his fans could admit it.
The truth must hurt.
Yeah, Gerv hasn't fought a C+ fighter yet, but already getting into some idiotic hood rat beef with Charlo, already a hall of famer doe...I'm a fan man.
I hope Santa Ellerbe put him another belt bought by uncle Floyd under the Chirstmas three so he can chill down.
The same thing they did is what GGG is doing problem was they had a real reason for doing it while GGG doesn't.
Martinez was a crippled old man who needed a payday and Cotto came calling.
Cotto was a Welterweight who needed to win belts in multiple classes and saw a sitting duck in Martinez.
Fat JMW Canelo saw a sitting duck in Cotto.
GGG is simply chasing Canelo not Saunders, he has no interest in that. If he did he would have snatched that belt or atleast hope to get it in September not wait for non belt holder Canelo who is currently suspended.
GGG doesn't have to fight all his mando, he just have to fight some.
I agree with you except on GGG not having reason to do the same, and that reason is named Canelo, and that Canelo guy messed up things.
Because you had guys hiding behind a tiny belt or the lineage.
GGG hold 3 belts and is chasing the lineage (Nelo) and the WBO belt (BJS), he will never satisfy all his mandos, challenges and haters because it is just not possible.
The same thing they did is what GGG is doing problem was they had a real reason for doing it while GGG doesn't.
Martinez was a crippled old man who needed a payday and Cotto came calling.
Cotto was a Welterweight who needed to win belts in multiple classes and saw a sitting duck in Martinez.
Fat JMW Canelo saw a sitting duck in Cotto.
GGG is simply chasing Canelo not Saunders, he has no interest in that. If he did he would have snatched that belt or atleast hope to get it in September not wait for non belt holder Canelo who is currently suspended.
GGG doesn't have to fight all his mando, he just have to fight some.
Bruh. The guy just said we should go back to one belt just to protect GGG from facing his mandatory. One belt is not close to reality therefore he's showing howv extreme his solution is just to protect GGG.
My solution
GGG should fight his mandatory
His solution
The sanctioning bodies should come together and make one belt so that GGG only has to fight one mandatory
Which solution is rooted in reality?
I'm not protecting him, I mean, Derev wasn't beating GGG imo and Vanes is a sht fight agreed, but I can understand that they want to get a bit of money on cinco de mayo, they were probably losing money facing Derev, YOU PERFECTLY know Vanes is packing the stub.
They have to cover the expenses, sparring partners,
they are not getting club fighters to prepare for Nelo, I mean, I'm still mad at Nelo not GGG.